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  1. In my view, an emphasis on aircraft is needed… Although not all aircraft is suitable for the infrastructure in Ukraine, get them what they need to knock down and keep down Russian Aggression

    1. @Mycroft Montague NATO was already on his doorstep: Poland and the Baltics. As Polish MEP Radek Sikorski drily remarked re. Russia’s alleged security concerns, “Ukraine has security concerns too”.

  2. Such is the issue with all Western modern main battle tanks, they are all designed for survivability, which makes them bigger and heavier than the Soviet era tanks that have 1 less crewman and an auto-loader to lower the profile of the tank so it may be easier to camouflage and harder to hit.

    In the West the mantra is, that the tank can be easier replaced than a good crew. In Soviet Russia, both are deemed expendable. πŸ˜‘

    1. Ye but it is also a highly complex tank in any aspect. Not only do you need sophisticated crew for it but highly skilled maintenace crews as well. The rounds cost a fortune, the number of shells in stock very limited. Its the same with pretty much any complex western weapon system

    2. the russian tanks have that ejector seat thing too. The javelin hits the eject button, top pops off and the crew flies out. No NATO tanks have that feature.

    3. @Erik Halvorseth the training you’re talking about is about 4 weeks. I went through it. Gunners and TC take longer but if they aren’t starting from scratch it could be compressed. The average maintenance guy is a high school graduate with a basic set of wrenches. Most of the systems are built of components. Now fix the inside of a thermal site is a job for a specialist but the guy who installs it does it with a plug in and a couple of screws. Like swapping out a hard drive in your computer. Even the turret or engine can be swapped in the field using the crane on the M88. We fixed them in the field during Gulf War all the time. So a couple of months to train a civilian but probably a matter of weeks for a change over. All army systems are designed to be run by guys who only did average in high school. Not saying that a lot of them aren’t high speed low drag. Just that designers work to the lowest common denominator.

  3. Ukraine really needs ATACMS and M1 battle tanks to take out ammo depots, airbases, command posts, logistic lines deep inside Crimea, which can give the Ukrainian army more chances to succeed in Kherson and other areas. Do Not Be Afraid Of Putin’s Rhetoric. We, the US and NATO, must show our strength to Putin, it’s the only language that he can understand.

    1. This is 100% right, you don’t defeat a gang of thugs by telling them to stop. Russia knows it can’t risk an international war, that’s why they backed down on taking Idlib in Syria when Turkey intervened (although that itself is a completely different subject).

    2. ukranina army ?? lol there is no such thing, they are mostly buried in common graves,, jsut survived some that trying to control an army with usa and european soldiers..

      even ukrnaian generals died all, zelinky said he was going to change them nice escuse, to jsutifie they all died.

  4. I was a M1A1 driver and even I know that it runs fine on diesel. In fact, running jet fuel prevents the tank.from using the onboard smoke generator. And somehow this officer doesn’t know about using plain old diesel? Who vets these “experts”?

    1. @BadFlounder The maintenance is zero difference on diesel or jp4. We run all non war fighting on diesel for safety and economy. I don’t remember changing so much as a fuel filter during my time. The rubber padded track that we used on post needed more maintenance than the engine. The 1sgt humvee broke down more than any tank I was ever on.

    2. What everyone is missing in the send them tanks effort is, dollar for dollar, the rockets are more effective. The missiles are easier to use than a tank gun. Less training, less logistics to support. And secondly, if we send them specialized equipment, my choice would be the amphibious stuff the marines use. They could hop across the bay into Crimea. Be in the Russian’s rear and cutting off the territory this war was meant to secure. Kinda like sacking the QB for a loss. The Russians wind up with less than they started with.

    3. πŸ’₯πŸ’₯ The US military launched 469 foreign interventions since 1798, including 251 since the end of the first cold war in 1991, according to official Congressional Research Service data.

    4. @Anthony Fuqua generals don’t run platoons. Lieutenants do. That’s about 15 guys. Generals run brigades or divisions. Even a colonel is only in charge of 5 companies and one of the companies is the strap hangers, cooks, and maintenance, supply, etc. A company of tanks is usually about 16 tanks with a crew of 4 each. There are a few support folks like armors and supply that work just for the company. They are in trucks, humvees, or 113s (that might have changed).

  5. Thank you Vladimir Putin for being the single best RECRUITER for NATO/OTAN with once Neutral Sweden and Finland signing up and soon joining. Without you this wasn’t happening so therefore again, tanks a million, Mr, Vladimir Putins!

    1. I want to share a few experiences I’ve had this year, I hope it helps someone in need. <3

      Last year I prayed to God in repentance then begged for help with all my heart, "I was until then an Atheist."

      I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed because I never read the bible", and the love I felt from Jesus was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of joy every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life, forever.

      I've had other miracles since, a few being a light turning on in answer to deeply needful prayer over a dozen times, seeing a orb of light hours before a major surgery, seeing an Angel in a dream the night my mother prayed for me to see one, "Without telling me", and So much more.

      Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you love and forgive them and I believe we should do our best to follow the 10 commandments.

      Always have hope.. I believe that love is the answer. <3

    2. @celso mariano don’t worry. German gas reserves are 90% full πŸ˜‚. We’ll make it through winter. You better worry about your economy.

    1. @Damian Rivoli #KAAF #NTAF better be in debt than have no place if your own and be Russian naZi slave. Glory to Ukrainian people defending their country.

    1. @SnakeyK if it burned, not a lot. if it was abandoned because it got stuck or ran out of gas, now that’s another story.

  6. Here in the west, the mantra is “items and vehicles can always be replaced or repaired, but a person’s experience is irreplaceable and should not be wasted”. As for the Ukrainians, they’ve shown themselves to be highly adaptable and willing to not only learn, but to put what they’ve learned into practice. The whole time, we’ve just been providing the gear and the knowledge. Within sight of maybe two, or three years, they’ll be fully trained and second to none in Europe for military power. Meanwhile, Russia has fallen even below Ukraine in terms of military power because they waste human lives and the espertise those lives had that can’t be replaced as easy as a tank or a drone can be.

    1. @LionEddy Ukraine got angry when Germany denied them tanks last week, so now the onus is on US to supply the tanks, then the air support, then the mid to long range missiles, then the nasty tactical devices, then the real nasty stuff…and the world will become a safer place without Putin.

      This is a civil war not a war on Europe!

  7. At the 3:00 minute mark the General addresses the value of longer range HiMARS. Essentially, the Ukraine would be able to hit targets farther back from the current line of engagement and it would still be within the border of the Ukraine. And that seems to make sense.

    1. @George L Point #2 is right…If you’re still using projectiles from WW2. The newest tech missiles, and even some that are not so new, use a very exact GPS navigation and targeting system, so it doesn’t matter where they are launched from as long as it’s in range. They could launch them in the opposite direction and they would still find their exact target within a few inches or less. The HIMARS are especially good at this and the Russians have no defense against them, yet. Moving your launchers back makes all the sense tactically with weapons like this because the further from the front line you get, the chances of your launcher getting destroyed diminishes greatly. These weapon systems are specifically designed to take advantage of the very thing you claim makes no sense tactically

  8. Glory to effort of Ukrainian army against Russian invasion army to liberate all its territory. May god protect your country, president, army and people. Slava UkraineπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

    1. I want to share a few experiences I’ve had this year, I hope it helps someone in need. <3

      Last year I prayed to God in repentance then begged for help with all my heart, "I was until then an Atheist."

      I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed because I never read the bible", and the love I felt from Jesus was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of joy every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life, forever.

      I've had other miracles since, a few being a light turning on in answer to deeply needful prayer over a dozen times, seeing a orb of light hours before a major surgery, seeing an Angel in a dream the night my mother prayed for me to see one, "Without telling me", and So much more.

      Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you love and forgive them and I believe we should do our best to follow the 10 commandments.

      Always have hope.. I believe that love is the answer. <3

  9. Wait, I thought one of the advantages of having a turbine engine is the fact they can fill it with anything flammable. I’ve heard some M1 tankers boast that they could run on Chanel No. 5 if they had to. I don’t think diesel would be an issue.

    1. turbine is probably not ideal for ukraine, they dont need the high power the weight ratio or the max speed its more of a slow defence grind, diesel will be cheaper to get and maintain the tank and also the turbine you cant have people close behind it using it as a shield because of the heat which is also not ideal for ukraine as the M1 has the best turrent armour on the planet far better than russian tanks

    2. @BadFlounder the US refurbished 59 tanks for Australia the M1a1 in around 2008 and sold them to Australia with a diesel engine, im sure they could do the same thing for Ukraine and they would have a huge surplus supply of M1A1s that are not worth much even on the second hand market why not just do the same upgrade for ukraine. Australia is already upgrading its tanks it bought then to the M1a3 standard with things like an active protection system and an electronic turrent rather then oil hydrolic

    1. I doubt, if the US fought a war at this scale, I’m sure they’d suffer even more than Russia is right now given what happened even against much weaker sides like Iraq and Afghanistan

  10. I was reading a while back that the reason the west wasn’t sending modern western tanks is because of how long it would take to train the Ukrainians to use them. They already knew how to use Soviet era tanks and it was better to get them weapons they were already familiar with. Therefore the Ukrainians could get them on the battlefield quicker.

    1. @Pogo I see the parallels you are drawing but we are not backtracking to 1850. Our society became uni-scope 50 years ago; no reason to believe we are losing it.

    2. @Mr. Reality actually it’s far closer. Separatist movements have been growing in Donbas since 2014. Thousands of ethnic Russians died from regular Ukrainian shelling in the past years. I don’t want to get into argument with you here over facts. You could listen to what Henry Kissinger had to say about this conflict. I agree with him so if you disagree you are welcome to argue with him.

  11. Heavy tanks will be needed when Russian troops have strongholds and veteran troops consentrated in smaller areas. In fast manouvers, river crossing, over larger area, smaller tanks and other vehicles are better. Also having needed supply routes for each vehicle could be a logistic nightmare (Abrams with over 3 gallons per mile fuel consumption, can use almost any hydrocarbon, US uses jet fuel mainly because it is useless to enemies and a bit less flammable…). Perhaps altering to allies tanks (giving Abrams in exchange for other tanks like Leopard 2A’s) that are more suitable to the situation could be better way to handle Ukrainian tank needs. Having mainly one MBT is logistically a wise choice (fuel, ammo, repairs, crew training, …).

    One thing that have to be considered is: How does media sphere alter after we see destroyed allied tanks. One main feature in this war has been Russian tank devastation…

  12. Repair experties could be aided with video links and specialists that gives online support and advices to the repair crews. Having no US troops on the ground is still an issue, but video links are hard to deny… This could also lead to more Starlinks to stabilize the videolinks… (Have links nearby, not in the building or in any location that you are. It can reveal your position to the enemy!)

    1. I like that online support idea… having US advisors and technical personnel on the ground is exactly how we got into Vietnam.
      Direct online links would be a nice work around.

    2. @Ian Medford That’s how Javelin’s and the German SPG’s are supported, the javelin comes with an 1-800 number for tech support, the Germans support their SPG via video links.

  13. The M1 Abrams is a tank killer. It was designed with that primary mission as the goal. It can go one on one with heavy tanks with large cannons from great distances even while being greatly out numbered.

    The M1 can run on diesel without issue by the way.

    The Russian tanks don’t have a chance.

    1. @Garry Long Yea, and HIMARS is also from the 1990’s (with a few recent updates).

      Imagine if we sent them the good stuff!?

      Russia is now the 2nd greatest military in all of…

      UKRAINE

    2. Yep the main benefit of the Arabs is the best armour on the planet from the front, the best fire contol system , great electronics and fantastic crew safety. Its weakness is the high maintenance cost and huge weight plus 62 tonnes compared to the 44 max for the russian tanks making some bridges hard to cross. Still a great tank , the turrent should be able to take a direct hit from any russian t90 from 2km away and not be phased by it and it return the US tank can fire back and hit targets at 5km plus making it far better

  14. Watching (and hearing) a M1 Abrams doing a demo in our parking lot was something ! Former AGT-1500 engineer at the Army Engine Plant in Stratford, CT (Avco Lycoming). We had almost 10,000 people building these (and other) turboshaft engines back in the day. Little known fact: The AGT-1500 gas turbine was designed by Dr. Anselm Franz, an Austrian who created the first mass produced gas turbine in 1944. He was a neighbor of mine in Stratford, not far from the plant which was located on the Housatonic River. Further upstream from the same river was the Sikorsky Plant, also in Stratford. Also spent a couple of years there building CH-53 Super Stallions and later, UH-60 Black Hawks. Good times!

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