'A Deliberate Imprecision In Defining The Enemy': Writer On Start Of 9/11 Era 1

‘A Deliberate Imprecision In Defining The Enemy’: Writer On Start Of 9/11 Era

 

Journalist Spencer Ackerman joins Morning Joe to discuss his new book 'Reign of Terror: How the 9/11 Era Destabilized America and Produced Trump.'

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'A Deliberate Imprecision In Defining The Enemy': Writer On Start Of 9/11 Era

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  1. Remember when Trump wanted to invite the Taliban to Camp David? I do.

    Remember when Trump’s handler Putin had bounties placed on the heads of our troops in Afghanistan, and Trump did nothing? I do.

    1. He should have invited them, completed the negotiation for our immediate withdrawal, and saved us $100 billion dollars. Had he done it, I would’ve voted for him.

    2. @eriknephron gfr Trump just rallied for the Taliban while his son and some other republicons are doing the same. Yes, go vote for him

    3. @SR FH “we don’t negotiate with terrorists.” Please. Some of our best friends are terrorists.

    1. @Delmonico Farquhar ~ That’s an excellent summation of the state of today’s Republican party! Allow me to present a similar version of mine, which has also been posted frequently:

      “Until Republicans return to reality and become responsible, they should not be trusted with power again.”
      That’s been obvious for some time, the same warning others like me have been advocating, but it’s good that Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney is amplifying that message. More Americans need to understand this.

      The constant lies, denials, deceits, delusions, gaslighting, dog-whistles, crackpot conspiracy theories, projectionism, Whataboutism, bogus victimhood, and hypocrisy of Republicans is disgusting and alarming. The Republican cult has poisoned itself with its own propaganda, choosing to live in a dystopian fascist Orwellian fantasy world. The Republican cult has been radicalized to such extent that it poses a clear and present danger to our society, our democracy, our country, and the world.

      Republicans have been programmed into a mindless fascist partisan cult that is unhinged, delusional and evil. And it’s extremely dangerous to our security, to our democracy, and to our country. They’re essentially a domestic terrorist group, and we should be targeting the leaders of that group with the same vigor and determination we would a foreign terrorist group attacking our country. Don’t know of a time since the Civil War when our nation has been at greater peril, and we need to recognize that, acknowledge it, and act upon it accordingly.

    2. @Jay Gibson ~ You haven’t stopped being a troll pervert, Doc! What’s the matter, can’t get it up to get your your sicko jollies?

    3. @wily wascal Brilliant…AGAIN, Wiley, and I so appreciate your encapsulating so many truths about the Republican Party that reflects the monster it’s morphed into. I’ve parroted much of this myself, so I am proud and relieved to have philosophical kinship with you. I’m just seeing this now, having been traveling all day, but your words, more than any others I’ve received today, are the most encouraging, for the simple reason that they are the most enlightening, insightful and spot-on of all I’ve read. Keep up your great work at opposing American tyranny as it attempts to incubate out of the political entity you correctly identified as a domestic terror organization– the Republican Party (or any other similarly “ambitious” organization, as well). Take care, good friend.

  2. I notice that Fox Noise is spewing out their propaganda with comments turned OFF. Could it be because 95% of Americans know Biden did the right thing? What is Fox afraid of hearing?

    1. Fox always do that when their own paid fake news trolls couldn’t dominate their own chat. They’re basically censoring free speech when the majority of Americans disagrees woth, or sees through their propaganda. Kind of like how north korea only allows the good delusion to be reported, firing anyone who tell the truth.

    2. Fox has the right to restrict comments. They’re a private company. What it says about them of course is that they’re rabid hypocrites and cowards.

    3. What about all the crap he’s taking from fellow Democrats and CNN and MSNBC? I hate Fox, too, but this is about more than our typical left-right, Republican/Democrat nonsense.

  3. The 9/11 attack was not properly analyzed, therefore the outcome could not be correct. The Saudis bankrolled the attack, yet they were never held to account. Afghanistan shouldn’t have been invaded. Neither should have Iraq, for that matter. Thank Bush and oil interests for this catastrophic bungling.

  4. Why were the Taliban and Al Qaeda conflated and both treated as the enemy? Simple answer. Dubya had deliberately and mistakenly to identify The Taliban, Al Qaeda and ultimately Saddam Hussein as the enemy because he could not face the truth of who had really been responsible. To have identified the culprits of 9/11 as Saudi Arabia could have brought tremendous destruction and turmoil to the entire Middle East and disrupted the world’s economic foundations and commercial chains, perhaps beyond salvaging.

  5. G. Gordon Liddy has NEVER looked younger. I would say ”better” but he was always a cheesy mustache guy.

  6. Spencer, how do I “hear” you when all I can “see” is your fixation of bikini-clad women. . . .(rolling my eyes).

  7. While the Talibanization of Afghanistan is of concern, of far greater concern is the Talibanization of America by Reich-wing plutocrats, Reich-wing media, Reich-wing demagogues, Reich-wing politicians and Christian nationalists.

    1. Include the revisionist historians who wish to put a positive spin on the previous administration. Who consider implore WWII as not a world war but a European conflict among “two Saxon tribes”. While the rest of us? Well, the rest of us of the non Saxon lineage “got in the way.”

    2. What about the people financing “our” side? They’re billionaires, too. Do you think our interests align?

    3. @Terrence Bunce ~ Wasn’t aware of any such historians. They don’t sound like reputable historians to me. They sound like Reich-wing historians.

    4. @eriknephron gfr ~ You mean, like all the Reich-wing plutocrats that funneled money to Shontel Brown in Ohio at the end, allowing her to edge out Nina Turner? Charlie Brown Manchin of WV also comes to mind. What is apparent, though, is that such people are the exception, not the rule in the Democratic party. Not all Democrats are in the progressive wing, and I’d certainly like to see more, but the overwhelming Democrat majority nonetheless votes for the interests of the non-wealthy, such as with the We the People Act.

      I think many people overlook conservative SCOTUS decisions like Citizens United, which force Democrats to play by Reich-wing corrupting rules to compete or become irrelevant. In which latter case, Democrats would have put themselves in a winless position to abolish corrupting influences. I also think it is up to us voters to weed out those few corrupted Democrat politicians, and to promote those candidates and office holders who are committed to fighting against it. But simplistically lumping all politicians together or engaging in false equivalence between the two sides is sure-fire recipe for failure.

      I think we should also be careful not to lump all wealthy people together as plutocrats. We would do well to distinguish between those altruistically promoting the common good and those promoting their own self interests and/or narrow-minded agendas.

      “Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a President and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country.” ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt
      “It isn’t sufficient just to want—you’ve got to ask yourself what you are going to do to get the things you want.” ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt
      “Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.” ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

    1. It’s called click-bait. MSNBC spins the wheels until they fall off. has nothing to do with the video and everything to do with adsense revenue.

  8. Are you kidding me? They had 20 years to learn to fight, learn to govern, and even leave the nation if they didn’t care to stay. What happens now is on them.

  9. “W” started this mess because he wanted control of the oil available. Oil made his family rich. My younger daughter had a friend who served in Afghanistan. His unit was guarding the oil fields. We CANNOT declare war based on the wishes of wealthy investors.

  10. Right, “let in Afghanis by the millions?” Republicans are wetting themselves over thousands or South Americans. Compassion is not their strong suit (too many Christians).

  11. Why the cut off?? MSNBC stop doing that in your clips! Not just this one. Either put it up completely or don’t bother.

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