Biden calls for dropping filibuster rules to put abortion rights into law

During a press conference following a summit of NATO leaders, President Joe Biden said he supports codifying abortion rights into law and to change the filibuster rules in Congress to do so. #CNN #News

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    1. @DrakinGP It’s very simple: Keep a federation with local governments and a vertical distribution of power, but don’t overrepresent Montanas 120 times over Californians in federal elections.
      National elections means that the WHOLE country votes on the government of the whole country.
      If Montanans want to pay less state taxes, not fund environmental programs etc. nobody would mind. It is the fact that these people get to decide national politics that pisses everyone off.
      Right now we have a supreme court where almost all of the judges that keep churning out dystopian rulings on a daily basis were appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote. This Supreme court is now interfering with NY laws with absolute bullshit reasonings.
      Trump cancelled trade deals and international agreements despite losing the popular vote. Pence is calling for a national abortion ban. I’m sick of this bs.
      Stay in your red states and leave the moral majority of Americans alone.
      You can do in your state what you want.
      These two principles do not collide, Republicans only keep it as a faux argument for maintaining their minority rule. Stay out of our lives and we will stay out of yours.

    2. @Altkanzler Amthor Well there are many simple solutions to such problems and reforms to government, the thing that’s complex is the people in it all having to agree and be genuinely good kind people who won’t take advantage of it, which we have on both sides, but we also have plenty of people who won’t on both sides. That very well could work, but enacting it and keeping it free from people messing with it is a problem it can very well bring its own slew of issues which is part of why these kinds of sweeping changes don’t get out into place despite how simple they sound.
      The system we have in place right now is set up so everyone can agree and know the ground rules together unified the reason it can appear broken is dealing with issues you don’t like which will happen regardless of the system you do have. Everyone has to vote because it secured the interest of everyone as fairly as possible if everyone has to work together to keep their government actually working it at least keeps them united better they all have a vested interest in not trying to screw each other over if they would also feel the effects.

      Also I think it’s a little hyperbolic to say dystopian rulings yeah you may not like it, but I’d hardly call it dystopian. Like are you talking about the concealed carry law well it got.struck down for being unconstitutional and when you let those things slide it creates precedent that can spread and compromise everything else.
      The Roe v Wade decision doesn’t even ban abortions like so many claimed it literally just gave the states the rights to make their own decisions on those laws, yeah Pence can call for it all he wants doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen. The same way AOC is demanding the federal government open abortion clinics in red states that outlaw it basically making their choice moot. That shouldn’t happen either.

      And everyone would like that as well but we still have an issue of both sides making demands of the other and outing laws into effect to force it on them, but currently it’s one of the cons we accept when we know how crazy the alternatives can get and you’d be putting a pretty large gamble on something with no way of reliably knowing it’ll work.

    3. @DrakinGP I live in Germany and our system is more democratic and we have a far greater deal of satisfaction with our governments, less ideological division, and we are, like the US, a federation with states rights and local governments. We have a parliament and a council, which correspond to the house and senate in America. But Bremen doesn’t get as many seats as the Rhineland, because that would be ridiculous. I know how a proper democracy works and that it is superior to all other forms of government.
      While your country is currently banning abortion without exceptions in multiple red states and try women who suffer miscarriages for murder, mine has abolished article 219a which prohibited doctors from helping women to organize an abortion.
      While your country is treating LGBT people like child molesters and groomers and in many cases driving them into suicide because of unchecked lunatics in red states (Ohio literally jailing the parents of trans kids), mine has passed the self-determination act, which enshrines trans rights into law.
      And these things would happen in America, too, if you didn’t have a gridlock congress which is overstacked with overrepresented right-wingers who continue to push America towards a hand maiden’s tale dystopia.
      How about we just break California apart into 120 smaller states? This is asinine.
      We have to have equal representation.
      The idea I am laying out is neither complicated, nor radical. One person, one vote. No taxation without (equal) representation.

      We used to fight wars and revolutions over this. Democracy is non-negotiable. If an actual majority wants to enact these barbaric laws, then so be it. But poll after poll after poll shows clearly how much in the minority conservatives truly are on virtually every issue.
      So you think it is fine if a partisan court strikes down gun legislation as unconstitutional but also erodes the separation of church and states by lying about the facts of a case, banning environmental regulation by government agencies (virtually banning them completely) then you are being dishonest.
      Civil rights would have been signed into federal law, if it wasn’t for a system in which electoral college and senate were completely independent from actual population size and if America wasn’t rendered completely ungovernable by bad faith actors’ bad institutions.

    4. @Altkanzler Amthor And that’s great that it works for you, but just because you have that doesn’t automatically mean every world power will or should just adopt your ideology and strategy. Germany didn’t just magically come into existence with this it, had to develop over time as people all came to believe that it was the best way to do it, and then get the people to all go along with it. We in the US aren’t there, the switch isn’t going to happen unless the people want it, but our culture, beliefs, history, and philosophy are completely different which means how people interpret and go about executing it will also be different, unless the people organizing and running it all work together to make to work, that is not an easy task.
      If it is unconstitutional yes. That is in fact their job. Also note I didn’t say that that was okay you brought that up now, and no I don’t believe you should be lying about that kind of stuff you only prove my point that there are also bad people in high positions in government who we’d have to trust to not take advantage of it all. It’s called flaws in a system run by flawed people we still have work to do, but blaming everything on one side and thinking it’s only that sides fault is how you get to harsh ideologically divisions.
      And yeah they are treating them like that because they have very suspect behavior not among all but enough that is accepted that is troubling. Like taking children into gay bars to have them watch drag shows that tend to be very sexualized. Or in pride parades where they have people in bondage gear being lead around with leashes with kids watching even having children stuffing money into thongs. They even let registered sex offenders interact with children, be around them in drag, and read them books with the intent of kids needing to be used to and accepting them. The destigmatizion of pedophiles by calling them MAPs and the people who still to this day arguing for the fact of consent being able to be used by kids to sleep with adults, that view point is not coming from nowhere.
      Yeah they did do that, cause they don’t agree that it is moral or should he legal to kill developing babies, they believe that that is still a valid life that should get to live and not just an inconvenience to be gotten rid of when you decide you don’t feel like having to take accountability for your actions, which is what the vast majority of them are, yet everyone focuses on the rarest and most extreme abortions to justify it being used as birth control in like 95% of cases. Which we know is the case cause the most used reasons are, “Do not want to report, Family doesn’t want me to keep it, can’t afford it, I’m not ready.” Very little of it is for
      And yeah that’s awful and needs to be fixed you shouldn’t be jailed for that. I’m willing to admit to the faults of my country.
      Also yes that is radical, it sounds simple sure, you’re still expecting an entire other world power to just adopt your way of doing things based on, “Well we’re happy with what we have.” That’s not just a simple switch flip decision, that’s gonna be a very long and drawn out carefully planned process, and doing it based on, “well they seem happy” isn’t how it’s gonna happen.
      You’re happy with it now that can always change in the future.
      And hell passing laws to enshrine trans people can come with its own problems. Hell in California they were trying that in the prison system and they transfer men regardless of if they had any surgery or were trans before incarceration and send them to women’s prisons, one of them was able to rape twice over there before they had to move him back. One female inmate complained about being uncomfortable watching one of them stare at her with a full erection and she got a disciplinary infraction for it. Not to mention the left is pushing for diversity quotas to force equal representation even if it means firing and Turing away people who don’t identify as a certain thing. Which it makes it’s way federally if Biden puts it into title 9 which punished many schools and caused the closure of hundreds of mens’ facilities for the lack of women not the turning away of them. So what happens when we don’t have enough trans rep in all places? The law isn’t perfect. The real issue is trying to force it into acceptance with law then, using the government as club to destroy and persecute anyone who disagrees, rather than just letting it naturally progress. It’s bad no matter what people just like to excuse their own sides when they do it cause they agree with it.

    1. @Janeen Banta ah yes a “real” president that needs step by step instructions on what to do. Maybe it’s this great economy that makes him great? Maybe it him taking care of Americans instead of foreign countries…. Oh wait he hasn’t done anything of the sort.

  1. Knowing that Roe v. Wade was a break fix, why didnโ€™t Biden and Democrats NOT submit a bill making abortion a law?

    1. @Cheryl Mccloud it’s more why Obama, who also said codifying RvW was a priority, didn’t do it when he had a super majority

  2. Biden: “And the first question, I’m told is Darlene Superville from the Associated Press…” ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

  3. President Biden should find out if Senator Schumer even has the votes before making such a bold statement.

    1. Iโ€™m sure Biden has had his workers working on this issue, and a far idea what the Democrat party are feeling

    1. @Jo Sm Yes, in 2007 he told Planned Parenthood that one of the first things he would do was sign the Freedom of Choice Act.

  4. I feel outraged when democrats tell me to get out and vote…the problem is once they do get in office, they don’t do anything! nothing changes!

    1. @Josie Zen perhaps you should look up the definition of Communists rather than attempting to โ€œwowโ€ us with your pseudo bulbar disease diagnosis ๐Ÿ™„ We are NOT impressed ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

  5. Go and talk to Susanne Collins! If sheโ€˜s serious about her statement that this suppreme court decision came as a surprise, then she SHOULD be open to joins the Democrats for this!
    Then you wouldnโ€˜t have to rely on Manchin anymore!

  6. Congratulations to CNN on becoming the 1st cable network to have more employees than viewers.

  7. but even r b ginsburg stated this not in accordance with the constitution and should be changed and enacted correctly

  8. โ€œI do not view abortion as a choice and a right. โ€œI think we should be focusing on how to limit the number of abortions.โ€ JOE BIDEN 2006

    1. You misunderstood his point. He wanted to put healthcare laws and other policies into place that would help reduce the number of abortions.

  9. Abortion has been legal in Turkey since 1983, allowing women to terminate a pregnancy during the first 10 weeks of gestation. Thereafter, a legal abortion is permitted only to save the life or health of the pregnant woman and in cases of foetal impairment.

  10. Abortion in Chile is legal in the following cases: when the mother’s life is at risk, when the fetus will not survive the pregnancy, and during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy (14 weeks, if the woman is under 14 years old) in the case of rape.

  11. Little known facts here in the State’s are as follows:
    #1- Less then 2% of abortions happen after 21 weeks (which is almost 6 month’s along), and Medicaid Does Not cover it, also you have to fight with your private insurance company to get them to cover it. The only time it is done is because the mothers life is at risk!

    #2- The rate of abortions dropped significantly since the 80’s due to sex education/std awareness combined with the Plan B becoming available in the late 90’s which leads to the next little known fact….

    #3- 70% of abortions done in America since 2000 are done by Married women with children!

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