Chauvin trial: doctors testify that George Floyd suffocated

Dr. Martin Tobin and Dr. Bill Smock testified in the murder trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, charged in George Floyd's death.

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A medical expert in the physiology of breathing testified in the murder trial of Derek Chauvin that the way George Floyd was restrained — handcuffed behind his back, face-down on the ground, with a knee on his neck — prevented him from breathing properly.

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    1. @jmh4ggg I definitely think they’re trolls. No way so many people can be this vile and stupid

    2. @Eye of the Beholder I’ve seen testimony from both and it’s all kind of blending together at this point… Can you point me to the specific clip, or maybe something that references lethal amounts?

      I saw in another study that lethal concentrations in Florida cases ranged from like 3+ ng/ml all the way to 60+ ng/ml. That’s a massive range. Wasn’t GF at something like 11-ish, on top of amphetamines? Seems reasonable that he could have already been in the process of overdosing.

    3. @Spalina Gray Yeah, it stops your breathing and suffocates you to death, like opiates in general… As for the deeper medical details, no, I’m not familiar with it.

    4. @MrCaesark what are you basing your facts on because the toxicology report doesn’t read that way.

    1. @Roach No he has been on drugs damn near his entire life and had heart problems. That doesn’t equal death just because you want it to. The fact that he wasn’t unconscious until after the knee should wake you up to the fact he didn’t have an overdose. Fentanyl puts you out that is it’s affect. He was clearly alert and verbalizing his discomfort and pain. He was very aware of what was happening.

    2. @Schimyping It doesn’t suck the oxygen out it’s used to put you to sleep. Clearly he was not asleep.

    3. @Schimyping Not when you have a tolerance for it which is why many people can take 10x those amounts . It’s only lethal to the person who has actually died from that particular level of Fentanyl.

    4. @Spalina Gray but see now you’re just assuming that he had the tolerance built up to withstand 4x the lethal dose. That while also combined with Meth, other drugs, caffeine, and pre existing medical issues that would make it difficult to process drugs to begin with. You’re not looking at the whole picture. it wasn’t JUST fentanyl he was high on. He was downing a whole cocktail of crap. and while we are on that note, His girlfriend even testified to him having OD’d a few weeks before and was rushed to the hospital. So, it’s clear to say, that he had a history of ODing previously.

    5. @Laura Vittadini I watched the FULL actual video. he was saying he couldn’t breath BEFORE he was put on the ground. which means oxygen was already being depleted before the knee. It was clear as day if you actually watched. He was clearly delirious and losing his mind, and his symptoms were exactly that of an overdose spell. Panic, loss of mental function, loss of breath (lack of oxygen) and then he passed out on the ground after his body couldn’t handle it anymore. When a prosecutor chooses their testimonials, they go for people who are willing to say what THEY want. Even doctors can be bought and lie.

    1. @casual35 all the defense has to do is prove a reasonable doubt. They’ve done a great job of that so far. It’s prosecutors who have been chasing what ifs. Hahahahaha you’ve not watched the entire cross examinations like you’ve claimed! 😂 😂 😂Busted!

    2. @Derpy Pedro Prosecutors chasing what ifs? Prosecutors are presenting witnesses who have the facts. Numbskull. You seem like you’re about 17 years old.

    3. @casual35 you’ve literally only read headlines hahahahaha…we could battle wits about this but I won’t fight an unarmed opponent…get rekt

    4. @David Green Go ahead and re-read my earlier comment, you clearly comprehended none of it. I’m speaking on George Floyd specifically who was asymptotic for Covid in which case it is unlikely that Covid affected his body in anyway at all. He said 90% of smokers do not develop chronic disease such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), Congestive heart failure (CHF) or Pulmonary Emphysema. these are the predominant conditions that may develop from smoking and they’re irreversible. The vast majority of smokers do not develop any disease at all. Having mild negative health effects from smoking such as shortness of breath is not a disease and can be reversed.

    5. @FloridaBoy Highlights So it’s your assertation that his smoking had no effect on his ability to breathe at all correct? In all honesty we agree about Covid, it’s basically a nothing disease that only harms the obese and elderly. What are your thoughts on him having 3x the lethal dosage of fentanyl in his system when he died and what are your thoughts on the dozens of groups that have recreated the situation and have been completely fine afterwards.

    1. @Brandon DRE I’m a slaphead (bald) and there comes a time when one has to bite the bullet. Combovers look ridiculous.

    2. @Brandon DRE I think he’s fine the way he is because your dumb standards of beauty don’t allow ppl like him to be unique and be themselves so shove it

    1. @Chas Murphy because literally every media company plays suspenseful music but for some reason I only see people complain about it on videos they disagree with politically

  1. I read the comments after the first guy and was confused about the hate on his hair but then I saw the second guy… oh lord.

    1. To be fair. Theres nothing misleading about it. They both kind of blasted the idea of an overdose, which the defense is relying on.

    1. @Max “the experts” is an interesting phrase that i keep seeing applied to this instance. “The experts” could be refering to this couple of witnesses or it could also imply that their is a consensus among all “the experts” in relevant fields, which there is not

    2. @Corie Barnes Sounds like you’re inciting violence. I do not blame you though. I blame the media for showing you bias news.

    3. @Max The prosecution doctor. The defense doctor will say the opposite when its his turn. This is why they keep everything secret until trial, to prevent politically driven bias.

  2. guess steven crowder is actually dead then, would be interesting to hear more then just cherry picked “experts” who are likely on payroll

    1. @Pigspotter7 The drugs are a primary concern of the defense in the last 10 days of trial. Of which I watched all 8hrs per day, both prosecution and defense questioning.

    2. @Pigspotter7 Were not likely to agree. My experience tells me differently than yours. Hit me back up after the trial ends and we’ll discuss it more. Pointless really to argue until all evidence is presented

    3. @Pigspotter7 I mean average person police make contact with and restrain based on the 900 million contacts per year made by offocers per FBI stats. We also teach this position in military police training or did in 2008 and it didn’t kill any of us including myself, and we did this for several hours of witch we all had another person on us for approximately 5-10min and were on them when positions switched. So I’ve witnessed and experienced it so wouldn’t reasonably expect it to kill a person. He has to be judged by objectively reasonable standards based on his training and experience at the time of incident

    4. @Pigspotter7 Definitely keep up with me. I like your difference in opinion and perspective. Helps me see how others think.

    5. @John Doe Oh i definitley will brotha i apprieciate the convo and view point…it’s good to have a convo and a difference of opinion but yet it be a civil convo…hard to get that

    1. Yep, if you make it that far. Professor friend watched a cop grab a young man, cuff him. Crowd gathered on the street. Cop pulled out 6 opium cigarettes from the kid’smpockets. Laid them out in the curb for everyone to see. Pulled out his revolver and delivered in shot to based if skull. Pulled off the cuffs and walked away… summary execution.
      China is so very strict because they fought a war against drug dealers 130 years ago, and lost. The drug dealers were Great Britain and the United States of America. Our schools books called it the Boxer Rebellion. The Chinese have not forgotten. Now, why is China booming and about to become the #1 world economy and military power too?

  3. It’s getting sad how many people are acting like they are paying attention to the trial just by watching these clips. There sooo much more these news clips aren’t explaining and showing. It’s going to a long, interesting few weeks.

    1. @Aron People are typically charged with involuntary manslaughter during vehicular homicides and since I’m not arguing that he parked a car on him, it doesn’t apply here.

    2. @Majinmango Negligent Homicide is typically classified as Involuntary Manslaughter. So if you aren’t arguing that he parked a car on him maybe you should use a charge that fits.

    3. @Aron What would you prefer?Reckless disregard? Reckless endangerment? Does it really matter what label is slapped on it? I’m still waiting to hear back on that fake 20 that started all of this.

    4. @Anthony Rodriguez sooo.. I’ve watched the entire trial plus do my research. What’s your excuse tonight after today? Lol

    5. @Rere Taylor time stamps and cite parts of the trial that you say support your cause as well as refute the points brought up in the cross examination of whichever testimony you’re citing then we can get to debating.

  4. Why don’t you guys let Derek demonstrate what he did to Floyd. Call out the Judge or Derek’s lawyer to take Floyd position. Then we will see what really killed Floyd.

    1. @Smitty Johnson Ummmm it was already proved today what happened. Chauvin Trial: Day 9….. You’re welcome…… 🤭

    2. the experiment has been done multiple times.. nobody has died. most said ” it was slightly uncomfortable mostly because of the hand cuffs”
      normal NON DRUG using people don’t die like this..
      Floyd OD!

  5. No matter what side of this you’re on can we agree that the guy at 1:02 needed to give up on having hair 15 years ago

    1. @Chris Vanaman Why don’t we wait and see how the trial ends, instead of saying our individual preferred outcome is fact

  6. People really need to be watching this. You can’t just go by the clips, there’s so much more. This is especially true with all of this medical testimony.

    1. @Truth Speaks What history of excessive force? No, he had a history of complaints of excessive force. Literally every cop gets such complaints, because criminals often lodge such complaints, often falsely.

    2. @Truth Speaks Oh, I did. You didn’t look much beyond that though, did you? You looked just long enough to think you found what you were looking for, but not long enough to see the whole picture.

      Do you know what percentage of police engagements result in misconduct accusations? Do you know what percentage of them are false? Are you aware that internal investigations are not legal proceedings and therefore not held to any legal standard of evidence? Much like a complaint to HR at any ordinary workplace. Meaning, an officer may get reprimanded for something he didn’t actually do.

      We are talking about a legal case here, something held to a higher evidentiary standard than that, and past reprimands for unrelated cases are not relevant to the case at hand. Even if Chauvin was reprimanded for excessive force in a prior case, it holds no bearing on whether of not his actions in this case were excessive.

    3. @Chris R Oh you didn’t! You know how many complaints that get untouched? Swept under the rug? You definitely didn’t or you’re in denial.

    4. @Chris R Dude didn’t resist on the ground so wtf are you talking about? Most cop complaints be true especially when it’s been exposed numerous of times. Stop acting like cops are stand up citizens. They are thugs. There have been police gangs busted so don’t try it.

  7. Can’t believe they removed Pepe Le Pew from Space Jam 2 A New Legacy then turn around and give Alex Delarge and the Droogs from A Clockwork Orange a cameo. Warner Bros ain’t right boy I tell you hwat

    1. You can’t thank the progressive “woke” crowd for that. THEY are the ones creating all the pressure on corporations and organizations to get rid of things that hurts their feelings.

    2. @K MB Nah, they’re trying to hide history so people can’t look back, learn from it, and say “Hey, we tried this before, and it turned out to be REALLY bad for everyone.” That way they can implement whatever insane policies they want and the sheeple masses will just follow along in ignorance.

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