Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories Are Ravaging ERs, And Doctors Are Fed Up | All In | MSNBC

NBC News reporter Ben Collins joins Chris Hayes to discuss the devastating effect that COVID-19 disinformation has on hospitals across the country. Aired on 05/07/2020.
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    1. @Lard Bigard
      I’m not an anti vaxxer I just want them to actually start doing the studies. It’s been proven time and time again that they skip steps in vaccines trials. How hard is that for people to understand. If they created an actual potent safe vaccine, I would take it.
      I could give you the information but you need to take that task in your own hands and do it yourself.
      I mean wouldn’t you just dismiss my sources ?
      Aren’t you already inclined to be biased from the start?
      I’m just assuming based on your comment towards me.

    2. @Lard Bigard I do not support any side. I’m Mexican by blood and American by soil. When I see both Mexican media and US media. It is clear when they want to create a false narrative just to increase views and serve the agenda of any conglomerate you can think of. Also look up Event 201, Agenda 21, and even the classic bail out that is happening on front of us. So many reasons haha.

    3. @Ken The Mad ok, about vaccines. I don’t know if you’re talking about the vaccine they’re working towards for covid, or ones already in use. If you’re referring to the covid vaccine, I completely agree, and that is why it will take them about a year. If you are referring to already existing vaccines, they’re safe. They have scary buzzwords that anti vaxxers like to freak out about, but it’s more harmful to eat 3 bananas everyday. It’s funny you should bring up dismissing sources since for you to even question the safety of vaccines after the decades of proof that they are in fact, safe, you would have to dismiss the countless studies, articles, and people who regularly get vaccines, and are completely fine. I have heard of some rare cases where people were allergic, but otherwise, completely safe. There’s not really bias involved when something is just a fact, unless im biased towards objective facts. Your other comment I can agree with to a certain extent, the big media outlets have a tendency to push agendas or twist the truth in their favor. I think the country would be much better off if we didn’t have only 2 political parties (that have a chance, of course), even our founding fathers knew that would hurt the country in numerous ways. The media, and people who ride or die with one side no matter what, are prime examples of the destruction caused by a 2 party government.

    1. @Mo Gunz ?? I guess you didn’t watch the video then.. It’s literally a video about conspiracy videos spreading online. lol

    1. @Gervais Campbell blame is in multiple areas; saying one but not the other is incorrect as well

    2. Gervais Campbell are you saying the ignorant people who think Trump has saved them from “socialism” oh the horrors!! Don’t follow his every word? They follow conservative news on Facebook and YouTube to keep up with what is being said for and about their hero! They only search for the things that fit their narrative so that they never hear the other side of stories. You might be intelligent enough to sort out the truth, but not all people can! Someone in my family, they are intelligent and caring college educated elder people, in an area with limited access to tv channels, they come from a time when journalists just told the facts, so they thought. They went from being moderate liberal people who were actively involved in social causes such as raising money to aid the homeless and many others, to believing every conspiracy that was mentioned on this channel. When they went to Facebook to see pix of grandkids, they discovered that these conspiracy theories were all over it. They started posting weird s..t to everyone and were about to send money to crazy websites and even invited these people to their property to hold rallies, til we intervened and had to put a stop to it. They were terrified that their beliefs were gone and that they had to save the world. The solution was to get them cable so they could find channels that were a little more honest in their reporting! Remember they are very intelligent people, imagine what it is like for those who might depend on someone else to explain what is going on in the world!

    3. My grandmother had a saying… Education does not buffer you from being a fool. If you never learn to THINK FOR YOURSELF, well you are just another educated fool.

    1. @Blah Blah He’s right have fun working your body to the bone till your so riddled with arthritis you cant move when your 60, while us college educated make a great living and retire whole.

    2. @Blah Blah Hmm, well, they probably could except that that is something that parents are supposed to do, although some parents can’t do that either, but that’s the theory.

    3. @doppler I’m doing just fine. Working your body is good for you. I’m not as concerned about making a great living as a great life. Which I have. A wonderful wife of 18 years, a 16 year old who’s incredibly bright academically and emotionally. I have a roof over my head, food in the cupboards, zero debt. Not even one credit card. I live completely within my means and don’t support the consumer ideology. What else could I possibly need? You should do whatever you want with your life. That’s the only advice I have for anyone.

    1. @Sub Optimal. I’m not sure if English is your first language but warning means something disciplinary. That’s why there was a misunderstanding. The word you meant to use was notification. You were notifying me. I’m happy we cleared that up. Thank you.

    2. ​@Federico Paupenwallie Von Wolleypoppa
      Throughout history, pandemics have arisen from time to time. Since you are clearly lacking in any relevant expertise, what credible evidence do you have that that the virus is a scam? Do you not realise that this pandemic (by definition) is rampaging around the world, as is in many other countries? You need to educate yourself, learn about critical thinking and avoid individuals and websites that offer utterly bizarre conspiracy theories.
      You are clearly much stupider and more ignorant than you believe yourself to be. See Dunning-Kruger effect.
      https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dunning-Kruger+effect

    3. @Eli Kronen
      English is my first language. Many words have multiple uses and meanings.
      You have most likely learned American English.

    4. @Sub Optimal. There you go. So, it’s still a language issue. Yes. I’m American. Here, warning always means caution. Usually disciplinary but it can also be used for safety issues. However the statement, you have been warned would definitely be a disciplinary statement. Either way, we cleared it up and now you understand why your initial message confused me. Again, thanks for the info.

    1. This what happens when you go to wipe, your finger slips from the tp, and u get a bit of fudge under your nail.

    1. Bort You will not believe in these agendas till you see thousands of people laid dead on the streets who suffocated by 5 /G 60Hz, who media , WHO, and governments etc will say these people are dying from a “Stronger more Aggressive Covid 19 “. You sheep’s give no hope .Take your covid vaccine on your left and fight flattt buttt cheeks, bent over.

    2. @texas renegade If it was any other circumstance sure; but these people are actively endangering the health of themselves and those around them who have nothing to do or want anything to do with their madness. This is a highly contagious disease and when you spread misinformation and/or gather in large groups where they even go as far as saying ‘if you’re sick, just come to the rallies anyway’ which can potentially spread the virus even further than it goes beyond just ‘muh freedom of speech’.

    1. @mak 10 No semantics moron. You are trying engage in the intellectual equivalent of a gun fight with a butter knife. You need to go back to the republican chat threads that discuss the taste differences among various kinds of motor oil.

    2. @Emily Moss medical professionals have made videos, people on the front lines, have made videos explicitly stating how this has been blown out of proportion and how they are being pushed to label any suspicious death as covid related. This isn’t something people like me are making up out of thin air. Something else is going on.

    3. @Emily Moss. You’re arguing with people who don’t process other people’s suffering. They’ll only acknowledge it when they’re in the hospital or a loved one is. And then, they’re so paranoid that they’ll think it’s because they were targeted by spies.

    4. @Eli Kronen you’re post literally made no sense. You act like there aren’t videos of doctors, front line medical professionals saying we are being told to label everything as covid 19.

    5. @The end is near. I’m sure it made complete sense to the person I was talking to and tagged. I didn’t expect it to make sense to you, as I’m sure you can tell. That’s the reason I didn’t address it to you. I’ll trust the numerous nurse practitioners, health workers, and doctors I know who are actively treating patients and testing people at multiple hospitals. I’ll trust the people I know who’ve gotten seriously ill from this and the fact I know people who’ve died. I know you’d rather believe people on YouTube videos who you don’t know or vet. You don’t know what their agenda is. That’s your prerogative I suppose but as I said, there’s a reason my comment wasn’t addressed to you. Take care and be safe.

  1. Now Mike Pence’s own Press Securatary has it. I guess the “secret government plot” has the Trump administration now. #Sarcasm

    1. @midesti Valet, not chauffeur. The Valets are military members that assist the president, and his family’s daily lives. This particular person is in the Navy and regularly brought him his food, and drink.

    2. People that believe in this QANON nonsense are as bad as those on The left who believe in Gates and company. Once again the people are being played.

    3. @midesti Yeah, he was furious at the STAFFER WHO GOT SICK and others. He felt like they weren’t doing enough to protect HIM.

    1. @Big Billy Goat Gruff Well, someone has convinced you, and I am not able to. I can live with that. The people that will get sick and die from this will not be helped a bit by our arguing about what it is or isn’t. So I choose to not bother fussing about it with you anymore. Have a great day.

    2. @Big Billy Goat Gruff
      Instead of listening to psychopaths, try doing some research. Google what Australia and New Zealand have done please!

    3. @Big Billy Goat Gruff I do believe there’s a N.W.O and I believe the Bible as well so people need to make up their minds who they will worship God or Satan I wanna be on the winning side not the losing side also we were made in God’s image we aren’t part of God’s body stop mixing the teachings of the Bible with New Age teachings

  2. This pandemic reminds me of a movie I watched where Everyone was trapped inside a house. The primary Ghost cursed a person by touching their shoulders, if the shoulders got touched they would die in an hour unless they touched someone else on the shoulder. Instead of thinking cerebally and just taking turns touching shoulders per hour, people started going crazy and wanting the other person to die.

    1. is the movie called devil ????? I remember watching something like that but it was in an elevator.

    2. Never heard of this one, sounds cool though… If you can remember the name I’d look it up and watch it man.

    3. @Jeremy W. Norwood It’s an asian drama I watched in my home language vietnamese it’s about 17 years ago

  3. Denial (Now)
    Anger (Summer)
    Depression (Fall – Especially after all the deaths)
    Bargaining (Winter)
    Acceptance (Next year – Too late)

    1. we mo
      I’m a skeptic not a denier, most people are just skeptics of the fear mongering not deniers. I never stopped working. I’m not scared of the sniffle because I have a very strong immune system. About a year ago I had a flu so bad I wanted to die. But I made it through it in about 5 days. I highly doubt this sniffle can be anywhere close to as horrible as that flu I had after reading the symptoms.

    2. ​@MAYTH MAYTH You’re using the colloquial term, not the philosophical term.
      But you’re right, you’re not a denier. But you’re also not a skeptic. You’re what’s called a cynic. You’re guided by “distrust” rather than “doubt until evidence is provided”.
      Evidence is already provided and it is crystal clear.

      At least thousands of people die by Covid-19 EVERY DAY. That is a statistical fact, that is non-negotiable. It is as accurate as our population estimates. And not even a fifth of the population has caught the virus. That’s at least ten times more deadly than the flu if you are being conservative, and several hundred times more deadly if we are using the average figure.
      Even if you are 20 or 30 years old and perfectly healthy, you absolutely can die from the virus. Or at the very least risk permanent damage to your lungs.

      Are you willing to accept the facts? Or would you rather win the Darwin award? Just make sure you isolate yourself, like on a deserted island or something if you’re planning on committing suicide by Covid-19 in an attempt to prove anything to anyone.

      And while you’re at it. I got you some homework. Go and look up philosophical skepticism, cynicism, and denialism.
      Because as it stands, hundreds if not thousands of Freethinkers would be banging their heads against the wall listening to your claim of “skepticism” if they saw your comment, and ask “am I a joke to you?”

    3. Thor Jørgensen
      The definition for skeptic that I have been working with since high school is “a person inclined to question or doubt accepted opinions.” That is what I do. I question accepted opinions. I do not accept something without strong evidence.

      Anyone who knows anything understands that the reason that the death vs infected statistic is so shockingly high is because of a lack of known statistics. We don’t know how many people have been infected. To borrow your blustering language “That’s a statistical fact, that is non-negotiable.” So if the variable of the equation is how many people have contracted it, we cannot say with complete certainty what the mortality rate is. It could possibly be as you say, but it could also be much less deadly than the flu. Since I am a skeptic, my mind will not be made up until the variable has become a constant.

      It is very funny to me that you would call me a cynic. A cynic is someone who always believes the worst. Someone such as yourself, who does not have all the facts and yet still believes the absolute worst possibility. Someone who would say something such as “Not even a fifth of the population has caught the virus. That’s at least ten times more deadly than the flu if you are being conservative, and several hundred times more deadly if we are using the average figure.” In this example the person actually lies. It is impossible to say with any certainty that only 1/5 of the population has caught it, because in order to prove this number, one would have had to test the entire population of the world. This has not happened.

      My job is critical infrastructure, telling me to go to a desert island when I catch corona is both nonsensical as well as unrealistic. Telling me not to work and stay at home is like saying all police, all military, all security guards, water sanitation workers etc etc should stay home. Absolutely ridiculous.

      This whole smugness and ego personality, which seems to be your main character trait, is a very bad look. I would recommend you change your attitude if you care to have people like you or care about what you have to say. If you wish to be despised then carry on as you are doing. But I will tell you right now, people absolutely hate to be talked down to as you seem to enjoy doing. Ever heard “You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.”? If you wish to convince someone, do not insult their intelligence.

    4. Thor Jørgensen
      Most philosophers and free thinkers would have necked themselves from a ceiling fan when they saw that you mistook the word cynicism for its antithesis, optimism. Also just for your information the terms optimism and skepticism are not mutually exclusive. One can hope for the best while still being skeptical. That’s what I would consider myself. And optimist skeptic. You however, are just a cynic plain and simple.

    1. @Jean Roch *Laughs difference of visual in stars and constellation in skyline timelapses, on different points and locations of the globe proving that it is, therefore, a Globe*

    2. @The 10th Doctor ooh boy… if you ever want to have a real laugh, try that on an actual flattard 🤣. I won’t spoil it for you !

    3. Can’t tell if those likes/dislikes are because of the people in the video, who is presenting the video or the information you get from the video, so it’s kind of hard to tell.

    1. @Eli Kronen I will say it as always…it is like the flu….people are sick like the flu….the reason a lot of people got this is from the flu shot people love to get….i don’t do any shots ….so I am all gravy in the navy baby 😝😝 it is like the flu….you will be the one sitting inside making your immune sicker and sicker….i will get out and NOT wear a mask and build my immune up….i am good….i am covered by the blood and I canNOT be touched except by the almighty powerful God 😇😇😇 may God Bless You and May God Speed!!

    2. @Are you a fan or a follower?? It sounds like you’ve been fed misinformation. But hopefully you stay healthy. Just please be aware that you could get it, be asymptotic or pre symptomatic and spread it to others. I’m sure you wouldn’t want to be directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of others.

    3. @Eli Kronen you can’t guilt me I will NEVER get it….God has told me this and I believe it….i have faith and am covered by the blood…..i am NOT fearful and love being free of fear…..to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord for myself so when God wants me to die He don’t need a disease or any of that He will take me….i am NOT afraid of death only those who don’t have Christ SHOULD be fearful of death and I pray for those souls including yours ….i am mask free and WILL continue to be that way because God said NOT to wear one and I listen to my God!!

    4. Whether you fear the virus or not the statistics are that if they don’t find s cure or vaccine a million more Americans will die for us to get to herd immunity.

    5. @Charles Putnam HA you going to take that vaccine you ARE going to die….it is kinda like the mark of the beast getting into play….i suggest watching plandemic…this was all planned by satan and if people get that vaccine they gonna die…people who got the flu shot are more susceptible to get this disease than people who didnt get it…its because the flu virus is from dogs and dogs have a lot of corona in them….how do you think they make these vaccines…. No vaccine touching my body….

  4. Honestly, this is why the Pandemic has lasted so long. People so afraid of reality they make up stories to make themselves feel better.

    1. David Escobar – Trump in a nutshell. He has to constantly prop himself up, and falsely claim he’s done a fantastic job so that way those 80,000 dead don’t really exist in his head.

  5. Americans used to have a saying.
    “Don’t believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.”
    Nobody seems to see anyone mourning the loss of family or friends from the virus. Trump touts “Fake news”. Is this biological warfare or psychological warfare. That’s the question. This is why Americans are upset. Is this a Globalist plot to restructure the world economy?
    I guess we’ll find out soon.

    1. @we mo yeah but before that there’s “knowledge is power”. Particularly powerful because most people’s default setting is “nerds are uncool, I prefer big muscles, hurrr durrr”.

    2. @we mo No, the biggest problem is religion and the anti-science morons who wield influence in the USA.

    1. Denise Martel
      That was long ago that nerds were bullied. Now nerds are cool. The coolest kids in my school were nerds. I hung out with them because they would do cool stuff like DDoS attacking people’s computers and learning the Russian language during lunch for fun. You must watch too many movies or tv shows and assume that is how the real world is.

    2. @Tue Tran I think, looking in from the outside, Trump is a symptom, not the cause. America has always been known for its insular education system and inward-looking political discourse. Americans (broadly) have an international reputation for being particularly credulous and uninformed about geography, politics, social theory and cultures outside the USA. Decades of navel-gazing is the underlying problem which needs to be addressed if you are to hope to catch up with the rest of the developed world.

    3. g00gle minus – The biggest peddler of conspiracy theories is the head resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

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