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Ali Velshi looks at the history of the administration of the small pox vaccine and the public was coordinated to distribute the vaccine as widely and as quickly as possible, an example not reflected in the Trump administration's slow roll out of the coronavirus vaccine. Aired on 12/31/2020.
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70 Comments on "Covid Vaccine’s Biggest Obstacle Turns Out To Be Leadership, Not Science | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC"

  1. Pamela Timmins | December 31, 2020 at 2:16 AM | Reply

    I remember getting vaccinated against polio; when I was in elementary school.

    I wish this vaccination rollout was more organised, especially now another strain of covid is in the United States.

    • Steve Jakubowski | December 31, 2020 at 1:57 PM | Reply

      @g0tsp33d um the flue kills 60k a year, how many died in 11 months again
      Can you do the math…

    • Steve Jakubowski | December 31, 2020 at 2:00 PM | Reply

      @# 1 some people can’t do simple math
      Why are you using quantum physics to communicate,

    • @Steve Jakubowski Yes. Can you spell? You realize the numbers are inflated right? You can literally research this yourself. Doctors being paid in other countries like India, and getting caught. You realize our population is higher, people don’t take care of themselves, thus they have weak immune systems…right? You know nothing of the real world. lol.

    • Steve Jakubowski | December 31, 2020 at 8:56 PM | Reply

      @g0tsp33d more conspiracy nonsense, when you have real facts, let me know

    • @Steve Jakubowski funny how you won’t even look it up. Stay “woke”.

  2. brilliantly said and shown, ty mr velshi. i remember getting both the smallpox and polio vaccines as a child, back in 1962 i think it was. the shocking part is that we were wiser back then, we cared about one another. whole communities showed up, caring enough to protect their families and their communities. so many decades later and we seem to have become foolish, and uncaring. how many more must die or suffer from debilitating long term illnesses before we do the right thing?!

    • Dragonice Lakeoffire | December 31, 2020 at 4:26 AM | Reply

      The US was way less diverse back then. Good luck now.

    • @Dragonice Lakeoffire no, it wasn’t. we had immigrants from all around the world coming by the multiple millions.

    • @Dragonice Lakeoffire During the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s, over 80 percent of all immigrant visas were granted to people from northern and western European countries, 14 percent to eastern and southern Europeans, and 4 percent to people from other Eastern Hemisphere countries. There was no quota on immigration from Western Hemisphere countries such as Mexico, and there was no U.S. border patrol until 1924. During the 1920s, the number of Mexican-born U.S. residents tripled from 120,000 to 368,000.

      After World War II, President Truman and congressional reformers sought to abolish the national origins system. They failed, and the McCarran-Walter Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) of 1952, which passed over Truman’s veto, left the national origins system intact. The INA left Western Hemisphere immigration unrestricted, but this migration was regulated by other means. For example, the Mexican Bracero Program (1942–1964) allowed Mexicans to work temporarily on U.S. farms under special legislation separate from that of the INA.

      When President John F. Kennedy was elected in 1960, he pledged to change the national origins system in a manner that would treat the nationals of all countries equally. In 1965, Kennedy’s vision became law under Lyndon Johnson’s administration: the INS was amended to favor family unification, not national origins. Immigration from the Eastern Hemisphere was limited to 170,000 a year with a maximum 20,000 per country. A seven-tiered preference system set U.S. priorities for entry, e.g., adults and sons of U.S. citizens received a higher priority for admission than spouses and children of U.S. immigrants, and professionals with needed skills received priority for admission over unskilled workers. The Western Hemisphere was given a quota of 120,000 immigrants per year, and in 1978, the Eastern and Western Hemisphere quotas were combined into one system with a worldwide ceiling of 290,000.

      Senator Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) asserted that the 1965 amendments would not change the number or characteristics of immigrants arriving in the United States. He was wrong. Immigration shifted from a mostly transatlantic movement from Europe to the United States to a Latin American and Asian phenomenon. Between 1955 and 1964, 50 percent of the immigrants were from Europe, 20 percent were from Latin America, and 8 percent were from Asia. Between 1975 and 1984, 13 percent of immigrants were from Europe, 44 percent were from Latin America, and 43 percent were from Asia.

    • FirstName LastName | December 31, 2020 at 7:34 PM | Reply

      This vaccine does not prevent infection and transmission of the SARS COV 2 virus. It only prevents the vaccinated from developing symptoms of Covid. Very different situation.

  3. I remember this. I have a dime-sized scar on my right upper arm as a souvenir of first grade in 1947.

    • @Ash Roskell Yep, You were wrong. A definite criticism from Mike.

    • @WARRIOR OF GOD Stop your sick, paranoid stupidity! This is not a laughing matter. There’s always a jerk when discussing serious matters—in this case, IT’S YOU!

    • WARRIOR OF GOD | December 31, 2020 at 8:09 PM | Reply


    • @WARRIOR OF GOD Thanks for not getting the shot—that’s one less person ahead of me so I get the shot that sooner. Hope there are more idiots so the rest of us can be safe sooner.

    • @WARRIOR OF GOD You are a warrior for Satan.

  4. Another reason why that is the Greatest Generation.

    • Steve Jakubowski | December 31, 2020 at 1:53 PM | Reply

      @reK Syhre funny, healthy people dying 300+k dead
      Do people try this hard to be this….
      Or does it come naturally

    • @Steve Jakubowski yea healthy people 300k+, what are you talking about? The ones who died aren’t the healthy ones…those were almost all at risk. The ones who should stay home or get the vaccine only…

    • Steve Jakubowski | December 31, 2020 at 2:28 PM | Reply

      @reK Syhre are you saying healthy people dont die, or children
      But of course you are a medical doctor right?
      Byr Cletus

    • @Steve Jakubowski did I say that? You should be a journalist with your ability to spin.

    • Steve Jakubowski | December 31, 2020 at 6:39 PM | Reply

      @reK Syhre you stated everyone that doesn’t have underlying conditions can just go back to normalcy
      When we know even healthy people get it, and can die…as can children.
      Moving goalposts as usual behavior for conservatives

  5. “If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. I mean, it’s no good. So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.”
    ― The Donald @ Larry King Live, October 1999

    “A friend of mine was in Scotland recently. He got very, very sick. They took him by ambulance and he was there for four days. He was really in trouble, and they released him and he said, ‘Where do I pay?’ And they said, ‘There’s no charge.’ Not only that, he said it was like great doctors, great care. I mean we could have a great system in this country.”
    ― The Donald @ The David Letterman Show, January 2015

    “We’re going to have insurance for everybody. We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better.”
    ― The Donald @ interview with The Washington Post, January 2017

    “I don’t want to pivot… If you start pivoting, you’re not being honest with people.”
    ― The Donald @ interview with Wisconsin television station WKBT, August 2016

    • Maybe last day he’ll release that fantastic healthcare plan he had in 2017, and it will WOW us so bigly we’ll beg for him to not leave. And maybe pink elephants will fly out of my butt.

    • So who and what changed his mind?

    • You have gone to great pains to document the froth emanating from the lips of the Swampdaddy of Lies. Thankfully, he will soon be an ugly footnote in the history of this nation.

    • @Grammy Skigin Dude has never had his own mind. To every audience he says whatever would get him most applause and attention. A textbook narcissist.

  6. “If yоu саn’t tаke сare of yоur siсk in the соuntry, fоrget it, it’s аll оver.”
    ― The Dоnаld @ Lаrry King Livе, Оctоber 1999

  7. “… So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’”
    ― Dennis the Menace

    • @T. R. Campbell hey no facts this is all all about blaming orange man for fun!

    • T. R. Campbell | December 31, 2020 at 3:40 PM | Reply

      @reK Syhre Well I don’t think we should result to racial epitaphs. Some Caucasian individuals are unable to process sunlight in a normal manner. Some people have difficulty obtaining a suntan some can turn a golden brown within a matter of hours and some, as in the case of Trump turn into an orange hue. Making reference to one’s skin color could be considered racism and an attempt to denigrate an entire race of people.
      In a political discussion we should be a little more scholarly and logical and refer to policies and procedures rather than personal appearance or manner address. Funny and fun stuff to do out there without degrading people for their skin color. That said, have a very Happy New Year and try to celebrate your responsibly and have a lot of fun. 😀

    • @T. R. Campbell but but orange man bad?

    • T. R. Campbell | December 31, 2020 at 4:56 PM | Reply

      @reK Syhre Well that is the message that we have been fed by the media since the Trump was inaugurated but if we look seriously at what he accomplished, he might be the Democrats best friend. Put away the hate and the bitterness for a moment. As a lifelong democrat and a political adviser for democrat candidates I am rather happy with what he has put together. I hope Joe Biden can now build on the solid foundation that the Trump administration has given him.
      1. Our iconic JFK gave us the roadmap for economic prosperity. Obama didn’t open it but Trump did and he invoked the JFK tax plan which supercharge the economy back then and supercharge the American economy up until COVID-19 escape China and ravage the world. During the supercharged economy we had the poverty rate all levels that were prevalent back in the 1960s. Black unemployment was at the lowest ever. Women, blacks and Hispanics engaged in entrepreneurship. The Wall Street Journal reported that middle and lower income Americans received a higher percentage of wage increases than did upper class Americans. This was all good.
      2. Trump pulled us out of the terrible Paris accord. We remember the German Chancellor pleading with Trump to stay in the Paris accord saying that it was necessary for globalism. She mentioned nothing about climate. The French can’t even control their pollution and Germany has had to crawl in bed with the Russians and their natural gas pipeline. By pulling out of the Paris accord Trump unleashed Americas ingenuity and we now lead the world in environmental stewardship.
      3. Trump unleashed America’s energy sector and we now lead the world in energy production. We recall a few short years ago we were told that we would be out of oil by the year 2000. By unleashing America‘s energy sector Trump caused a serious blow to the Russian economy. They had runaway inflation and their py-6 was under tremendous pressure. They have recovered a little bit but Putin was not able to pay for his economic or military advances. Trump is the worst thing possible for the Russian economy.
      5. Lower prescription drug prices has been a Democrat party platform issue for number of years but we have failed to implement it. Trump issued three executive orders now requiring the federal government to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies do use the power of the federal government to lower the price of prescription drugs.
      6. Prison reform has been a long time Democrat party platform issue but Trump issued executive orders creating a new prison reform mandate.
      7. Middle east peace has long been a hope for the world but Trump has put together a plan where at least three Middle East countries have signed peace agreement with Israel. Israel in these three countries can now enjoy economic prosperity, travel between the states and a reduced chance of war.
      So in response to your statement if we make a scholarly, professional and logical assessment of the Trump presidency he has been responsible for many good things to include the cOVID-19 vaccine distribution to the states. I have not mentioned everything because of brevity but I think you can see what I mean. Thank you for your post and have a very Happy New Year.

    • @T. R. Campbell The distraction that you are trying to create is illogical. The US death rate per capita is over 67 times that of South Korea. Obviously, it is easily preventable. Trump wants death, lots of it, and he has Trump Cult members such as yourself to back him up.

  8. There is *nothing* orderly about the Trump Administration. They are a disaster.

  9. I recognised Rosemary Clooney in that picture of dancers getting vaccinated. George Clooney’s aunt. Glad to see that famous people were smarter than they are now, back then. How did we get so dumb? . . . 🤦‍♂️

  10. That was the greatest generation though, and small pox didn’t need a freezer. Two very different situations. More logistical problems and people that cared about community, country & service.

    • @Ivan 2897 Dr. Murray Smith wasn’t the greatest generation nor was Dr. Taliaferro Clark they were the generation before, the Tuskegee men were the greatest generation. Look it up!

    • The age before internet. The age when people didnt get information.

    • @Devo you mean the age before misinformation and disinformation? The age before people were too lazy to actually research? The age before people got their info from fake memes, conspiracy sites and YouTube weirdos?

    • @T H yes and the fake news

    • FirstName LastName | December 31, 2020 at 7:32 PM | Reply

      Not getting the Covid vaccine has nothing to do with not caring about others. The Covid vaccine prevents Covid. It does not prevent infection and transmission of the SARS COV 2 virus. The vaccinated can still spread the virus. The Covid vaccine only protects the person who got it.

  11. 12 cases 2 deaths because they acted fast with leadership. It was a Democrat President just saying.

    • timandsue legere | December 31, 2020 at 11:25 AM | Reply

      @Ivan 2897 and now look the republican running for senate kelly lofler in georga is hanging out with the KKK and accepting contributions from them oh how times have changed

    • @Ivan 2897 what does this have to do with anything stop deflecting. Do you have ADHD if so I apologize for slamming you so hard.

    • @Ivan 2897 The southern Democrats of that long ago era have now switched to the Republican party. And the KKK are not heathens. They’re Christians. That’s why they used burning crosses to intimidate the victims of KKK racism. If you’re a southern Republican, your ancestors were probably racist southern Democrats. Have a nice day.

    • Steve Jakubowski | December 31, 2020 at 1:53 PM | Reply

      @Ivan 2897 actually, read Truman’s speech about Republicans, just saying

    • A conservative would have sent out thoughts & prayers instead.

  12. The Federal Government is supposed to manage emergency response in America, why the GOP decided to show why we need a stronger Federal Government but a weaker Executive Branch is beyond me but they’ve done it.

  13. And with all our technology we can’t reach 1947 standards…wow..pathetic for America..but then we have a pathetic man-child in charge, so is anyone surprised?

  14. this time around the circus got vaccinated first

  15. Sabrenia Murray | December 31, 2020 at 11:49 AM | Reply

    I hope everyone gets the Vaccine that wants to take it…..( I have a feeling this its going to get crazy just like the Country)!!!!!! WHO’S GOING TO GET IT AND WHO’S NOT GOING TO GET IT WILL COME UP SOON!

  16. geofo60 Geof Harris | December 31, 2020 at 11:59 AM | Reply

    No doubt the current “Circus” will be first in line to get theirs ?

  17. Fred Flintstone | December 31, 2020 at 12:33 PM | Reply

    “Biggest Obstacle Turns Out To Be Leadership”

    Average people don’t need this type of elementary leadership to do what’s right… Unless the people are so ill-informed they can’t make rational decisions for themselves.
    Oh right…. It’s America.
    Sorry…. I forgot…

    • Jason Faulkner | December 31, 2020 at 9:46 PM | Reply

      37th in the world in education NOT by accident. If education is power …. then the powermongers do what they can to deny education to the unpowerful. One thing they do: sponsor politicians.

  18. The contrast is stark, and depressing. Hopefully, we’ll start doing better soon.

  19. Samantha Beasley | December 31, 2020 at 1:47 PM | Reply

    Our leaders didn’t do anything close
    They choose to Lie
    And more LIES followed

  20. Another culprit of Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. So is the media.

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