#ForFactsSake: Cuccinelli’s Claim About The ‘Public Charge Rule’ Is Wrong | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

The Trump Administration has a new rule, banning immigrants from coming to the U-S if there's a chance they will use welfare programs. For Facts Sake, most immigrants aren't even eligible for public assistance. Stephanie Ruhle and Ali Velshi break down the false claims.
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#ForFactsSake: Cuccinelli’s Claim About The 'Public Charge Rule' Is Wrong | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

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    1. @snoop alert …. thank you for your highly astute observations , it been my genuine pleasure conversing with you . You’ve shed further insight into my study of ” Old Yeller’s ” supporters . Have a delightful evening , cheers !!! ( Perhaps I shoulda said …. ” Do svidaniya comrade ” )

  1. Big business & agriculture will hate this restriction. No strawberries, vegetables, gardeners . . can’t wait to watch how quickly this ends in disaster 🙄🥴😜

    1. so what your saying is mexicans or latinos are only good for picking crops or mowing lawns? dems have not evolved much ok master democrat i pick that cotton.

    2. @Old Boat Guy no, I think what Jan meant was that most farms rely on foreign workers to pick crops because Americans don’t want to do that type of work.

    3. @Old Boat Guy Of Course I’m not relegating menial work to Mexicans. 😉 I think the immigrants are among the most hard working people in America. BUT, documentation issues & ICE raids do relegate most of them to lower status jobs because their opportunities to become a CEO or bank manager are nil. Here in Australia, we are seeing news interviews where big agra’ producers are begging trumP to allow the workers to stay for good reason. They pay tax & social security each week for benefits they will NEVER see. 🙄😉🤔

  2. During Trumpo’s campaign, Trumpo said he was smart for not paying taxes. So Trumpo never paid his fair share anyways.
    As of August 11 The Washington Post Fact Checker has cataloged 12,019 times Trumpo The Aryan Clown has lied to the American people since taking office.

    1. Christopher Weingart Are you listening to yourself?! ACCEPTABLE NUMBER OF LIES BASED ON SEVERITY ?!?! Are you serious? Is this how you raise your kids?! “Ok, Billy, you get ten lies this week. 5 big ones and 5 small ones. “ Seriously, Dude. You need to re-evaluate your life and your morals.

    2. @Ampersandrascott It’s not a moral stance but considering the reality that all politicians “over promise” when campaigning its all relative. You find me one politicians who always tells the truth or save your moral outrage.

    3. @Christopher Weingart Please provide us with the whoppers other presidents have told that even come close to what trump has lied about.

    4. @RhondaH Are you of the believe he is the first president to lie? What do you think is the most impactful lie he has told?

  3. Deliberately aimed at blocking all non-white immigrants. Will be applied to anyone coming from a non-European country automatically.

    1. The Poor are apparently now also considered , ” The Enemy of the People ” …. Land of the Free , Home of the Depraved , under this administration .

  4. where do you sign up on the petition that’s to change 5th Avenue into president Barack H Obama Avenue?😱

    1. @Michael Parrott-MacLeod They should use DONALD TRUMP’S face as a
      PRO-ABORTION POSTER ‘CHILD’

  5. He still owes the city of El Paso , as I recall …. and while I’m at , when can the people see your tax returns Mr Trumplethinskin ???

  6. It is not okay to come into the country illegally, but it is okay to hire them illegally! Trump is a piece of sht!

  7. The largest section of the population that is using foodstamps and welfare Let’s see……It sure is’nt latinos and blacks hmmmmm I wonder who??

    1. @Tom Ogden From the article: “Non-Hispanic whites, however, accounted for 61 percent of the U.S. population in 2016, so they utilized food stamps proportionally less than their share of the population. Blacks made up 12 percent of the population, but 25.6 percent of all recipients in 2016. Hispanics accounted for 18 percent of the population and 17.2 percent of all recipients.”
      “Pew Research Center found that blacks are more likely than other ethnic groups to have received benefits at one point in their lives. In a 2012 survey, 64 percent of blacks, 56 percent of whites and 50 percent of Hispanics said they had used at least one of six entitlement benefits, including Medicaid, Medicare, SNAP and Social Security.”

      You’re welcome …

    2. @Kevin Jackson You omitted some key details from the article: “Non-Hispanic whites, however, accounted for 61 percent of the U.S. population in 2016, so they utilized food stamps proportionally less than their share of the population. Blacks made up 12 percent of the population, but 25.6 percent of all recipients in 2016. Hispanics accounted for 18 percent of the population and 17.2 percent of all recipients.”

      “Pew Research Center found that blacks are more likely than other ethnic groups to have received benefits at one point in their lives. In a 2012 survey, 64 percent of blacks, 56 percent of whites and 50 percent of Hispanics said they had used at least one of six entitlement benefits, including Medicaid, Medicare, SNAP and Social Security.”

    3. @Pat Ho I guess you’ve never heard of identity theft and fraud. https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-identity-theft-and-cybercrime
      One of my wife’s old roommates dated an illegal who was using a stolen soc security # to work, had a kid receiving CHIP, got food stamps, etc. I remember him complaining about not being able to collect a tax return during tax season. So don’t tell me it doesn’t happen because I witnessed it myself.

    4. @Chucks Grace I left out no details since I said go look it up! As for the pew research poll😂 I use government only websites because they are’nt skewed left OR right!!
      Fact is there are more whites in the US than any other group and I look at total numbers not percentages or proportions the bottom line is your pres and his ilk would like to paint everybody else as the ones who are on welfare or getting food stamps when he is’nt honest enough to say he wants whites off foodstamps just like every other ethnic group!
      And why??
      Because it makes excellent dialogue and red meat for his base to say the “other” those brown people are taking advantage of the government programs which by the way only accounts for about 10 percent of the Federal budget! And the overall use if benefits since 1996 when the welfare reform act was passed has declined significantly so use has not gone up and illegals can’t even qualify for benefits!
      By the way my article was from 2018 not 2012 at any rate whites outnumber all other races at 66 percent of the population.

      If he had an ounce of integrity he would address every group not just the brown skin groups when cleary whites use welfare benefits and govermwnt assistance just like other groups.
      There is also a chart that shows all of the states that pay out benefits and each group using benefits and in every state on that chart, whites use the most benefits!

  8. Trump voters don’t let facts, or education, common sense, or reality get in the way of their ignorance, after all, they voted for a toddler

    1. @Buckets My prediction? He will resign the office and accept a pardon from Pence. Losing the election would be too much of a blow for his ego to bear. Leaving petulantly, throwing brickbats at the “deep state”, would allow him to continue holding rallies and hearing people cheer for him – until he perhaps finally absconds to the arms of his buddies in Russia.

    2. @omi god
      Not a chance, absolutely an an impossibility. Have you been paying attention? He’s narcissist of epic proportions, you’ve contradicted yourself far too much

    3. @Buckets He’s a narcissist, of course. That much is in evidence. But he is a self-protecting narcissist as well. Being re-elected would keep him out of prison temporarily, but he will face a completely Democrat-controlled Congress. He knows he will be impeached – and he knows that he will be as powerless as Obama was in his last 6 years. Not as much fun as throwing rocks from outside and crying “conspiracy” and “fake news” as a _genuine_ “victim”. He’ll have such fun.
      I don’t see where I contradict myself, but you’re free to think what you wish, of course.

    4. Buckets it’s Ironic that you’ve called someone stupid while you have obviously replied to the wrong person. It’s a shame because that was a nice little rant you’ve aimed at the wrong person. I’m well aware that Obama is responsible for the current economic boom and stated so above.

    5. snoop alert The classification is irrelevant as you are comparing Trump and Obama using the same metric. It’s astounding that I would have to explain this. High school drop out I’m guessing ?

  9. So if the US is soooo great and prosperous for all-then WHY did these programs need to happen in the first place? It didn’t need to happen for the “special ones,” the white men, they didn’t need it, they controlled everything as well as the money. If you think that laziness is the reason for these programs, you need to educate yourself.

  10. I don’t need a news program to tell me NO LEADERSHIP TRUMP is lying. I know for a fact that most latinos are the most hardest working people on the planet. So this is really about racism and steven miller. It just goes to show you that this president doesn’t know what he’s doing. he’s stupid!! DUMP TRUMP 2020!!1

  11. After rampant fraud in many precincts (and guess which party was ALWAYS guilty?) during the ’20s and ’30s, some states USED to require election workers to be bonded. Now none do.  

    It’s all about illegal votes !

  12. When we had much more free immigration into this nation, before 1950’s, there was not welfare or free housing and people came here to be an American and work with their hands and brains. NO way would you hear one of them say they would take a dime of public help ( state run) back then.

  13. He doesn’t want us paying for there benefits but don’t worry about the 100 million plus that he has spent of our money to golf at his resorts.

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