Former Prosecutor Under Giuliani On Grand Jury Convening In Trump Probe 1

Former Prosecutor Under Giuliani On Grand Jury Convening In Trump Probe

 

Former SDNY Prosecutor under Rudy Giuliani Frederick M. Lawrence joined Joy to react to the breaking Washington Post story: “Prosecutor in Trump criminal probe convenes grand jury to hear evidence, weigh potential charges.” 
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67 comments

  1. Once they serve trump he’s gonna be clutching at his chest. “Lizabeth!”, “Lizabeth!”

    1. I saw Redd at the Comedy Store up on Sunset years ago he did just a few minutes of stand-up. Really neat.

    1. Atgolf Twitler is still the only President with more Impeachments and Grand Jury investigations than election wins.

    1. @Liz Pedano If he had committed any real crimes now that all the elites hate him they’ll find someway to get him in jail

    2. Isn’t it funny though they’re going after Trump but there’s a pretty good cause to believe bill Gates knew Harvey Weinstein Very well

    1. Have you noticed that if a teflon coat wears off, it is getting very sticky underneath?

  2. [Grand jury, “criminal” needing “intent and motive” to prove, and Cy Vance approaching to the end of his term] => seriously significantly giant step toward the final closing of the Trump Crime case. You can be sure of it.

    1. Wrong. When they pursue this through a grand jury? It means they don’t have enough evidence to indict. They don’t have enough evidence to go in front of a judge.

      A Grand jury investigation is a process by which a prosecutor attempts to pursue an indictment by presenting his evidence uncontested to a selected jury.
      Generally grand jury‘s sign off on a prosecutors indictment simply because there’s no counter evidence or argument presented. This is why many nations to world over have abolished grand jury indictment.

      “In part because there’s no one on the “other side” to contest the prosecutor’s evidence, grand juries almost always return an indictment as requested by the prosecutor. According to a U.S. Department of Justice study on plea bargaining, “Grand juries are notorious for being ‘rubberstamps’ for the prosecutor for virtually all routine criminal matters.” (Plea Bargaining: Critical Issues and Common Practices, by William F. McDonald, (U.S. DOJ, National Institute of Justice, 1985).)

      Where they have a choice, prosecutors often prefer grand juries because grand jury proceedings are secret. When prosecutors file an information, they are usually required to convince a judge in a public preliminary hearing that they have enough evidence to secure a conviction. This high burden is not present at a grand jury proceeding, where the prosecutor has to prove that there’s only “probable cause” to believe that a crime occurred and the target of the proceeding comitted it.”

      It is absolutely a prosecution. One that is being specifically pursued due to the saturation levels of persons willing to further their endeavors due to their political ideology.

    2. @The Heretic Do you really believe they will do this without any evidence of a crime? This is the former President of the USA we are talking about. If you believe that everything is just about getting Trump then you are being delusional. Trump is a very corrupt man and you will soon find out the truth.

    1. Yeah, and when/if he appears in court he’ll be in a wheelchair faking a terminal illness like all the mobsters do.

    2. Ehh. I see how someone could respect Gotti. The Orange Turd Blossom Special deserves. I royal treatment. Treat him like the liar he is

    1. I will send a DVD of “Let’s Go to Jail”. This will be like “orientation” for tRump before the actual prison time…

  3. Do not rush and make any technical errors. Get this right. BUT please, please, please get this done before the next presidential election. If Republicans come back, they will give you another Barr, or worse and justice will never be done.

  4. Well known saying among lawyers: “A good prosecutor can get a ham sandwich indicted.” Beginning of the end for the orange makeup wearing criminal.

  5. They’re prosecuting an Ex President who has committed many crimes. When you go after an ex President you need to ensure you have an ironclad case to convict.

    1. @ACERMATIC NYC No, he most certainly does not. You poor thing. I know this is hard for you magats to accept.

    2. Wrong. When they pursue this through a grand jury? It means they don’t have enough evidence to indict. They don’t have enough evidence to go in front of a judge.

      A Grand jury investigation is a process by which a prosecutor attempts to pursue an indictment by presenting his evidence uncontested to a selected jury.
      Generally grand jury‘s sign off on a prosecutors indictment simply because there’s no counter evidence or argument presented. This is why many nations to world over have abolished grand jury indictment.

      “In part because there’s no one on the “other side” to contest the prosecutor’s evidence, grand juries almost always return an indictment as requested by the prosecutor. According to a U.S. Department of Justice study on plea bargaining, “Grand juries are notorious for being ‘rubberstamps’ for the prosecutor for virtually all routine criminal matters.” (Plea Bargaining: Critical Issues and Common Practices, by William F. McDonald, (U.S. DOJ, National Institute of Justice, 1985).)

      Where they have a choice, prosecutors often prefer grand juries because grand jury proceedings are secret. When prosecutors file an information, they are usually required to convince a judge in a public preliminary hearing that they have enough evidence to secure a conviction. This high burden is not present at a grand jury proceeding, where the prosecutor has to prove that there’s only “probable cause” to believe that a crime occurred and the target of the proceeding comitted it.”

      It is absolutely a prosecution. One that is being specifically pursued due to the saturation levels of persons willing to further their endeavors due to their political ideology.

    3. @madboyreadynow28 when they raided Rudy’s house nothing happened.
      I was there and the FBI told Rudy it was just for show but no charges will come from it

  6. The magats are out in force to squawk about how fake and unfair this is. What about what about is flying hot and heavy. Amusing.

    1. well maybe once he is arrested or have to testify, the families can sit with the q person and say see he is a liar..he has always been one..the newspapers covered for him..your right the elite get away with everything and he is one of them..he tried to cheat all of you.. maybe maybe they will see it all started when he became pres..it is his ppl trying to brainwash you into total confusion so you would go after the good guys who want to give you tax breaks and broadband and money every month

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