Former President Trump reacted to news about the discovery of classified documents at former Vice President Pence's Indiana home on his social media platform Truth Social.
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I am a veteran with a TS clearance. Anyone else would be doing serious prison time if they kept sensitive, confidential documents in their residence. It must be nice to be a politician (Democrat or Republican) knowing that the laws of others don’t apply to them…
@Stephen Kershaw What’s wrong Biden lover snowflakes? Y’all are might quiet now after your boy biden got caught with more documents😂😂😂💀💀💀. Gonna get butt hurt, cry and try to defend these facts snowflakes?❄️❄️❄️😘😂💀. If Biden needed over 25,000 troops to guard him from the people on Inauguration Day, then it’s clear that he wasn’t elected by the people😘😉😂😎💀
@RiteMo LawBks nope Brady Violations by the feds isn’t a rarity. I am actually getting killed as a whistleblower federal investigator for my NSA cryptologist Navy Vet father & for one of Epsteins defense attorneys involved in racketeering with Epsteins partners-in-crime in both major parties & the healthcare corps who doped Epsteins victims.
Ed Snowden, Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange & myself are 🎯 targets by both Ds & Rs corrupt USDAs like Acosta who Trump appointed Labor Secretary to make sure I don’t get work comp cancer care or compensation for the deadly on-the-job injuries caused by untreated & deliberatly accelerated uterine cancer. Fraud schemes using spoiled evidence created by police, doctors & social services workers. Aka mishandling of sensitive government documents.
We’re getting innoculated for my sealed whistleblower indictments that got Cuomos DNC chair Buffalo Mayor Byron Browns city hall and HUD charity raided by the FBI , NY OIG, IRS and HUD. Cuomo’s one of Thumps NY real estate attorneys to whom Trumps donated $64k. Brown helped Trump get Hildebeast parachuted in to the NY Senate as Arkansas Klan. All involved in sex & financial crimes with Epstein & the Maxwells.
Rule#1 of TS clearance, is to never talk about TS clearance.
@Eduardo Oliveira Covefe!
“I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”
“Do you believe in punishment for abortion – yes or no – as a principle?”
“The answer is there has to be some form of punishment.”
“For the woman?”
“Yeah, there has to be some form.”
“It’s really cold outside, they are calling it a major freeze, weeks ahead of normal. Man, we could use a big fat dose of global warming!”
“The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”
“To be blunt, people would vote for me. They just would. Why? Maybe because I’m so good looking.”
I mean those are just a few quotes do you really, truley, honestly believe Trump is NOT a blockhead??????
🤣🤣😂😂
@andre mcdonald…..”Veteran with a TS clearance”…….Please K.EEP your M.OUTH S.HUT…..🇻🇨✍🏿🇬🇧
It’s insane that we do a better job knowing where library books are than we do with classified documents…
@Maximiliane Musterfrau in regards to your anti digital comment. These documents are created on computers and then printed out. It’s not like they are hand written or typed out on an old school typewriter (which also leave a mark unless you’re destroying the rubber/leather typewriter pad or destroying the surface you wrote on (imprint thru the paper). Digital is actually unhackable if it’s never connected to an internet.
The thing I think most don’t understand about classification is, how and who determines a document is classified. There isn’t some magical agency determining classification and tracking it. Classification is ultimately determined by the author, next step would be the department, next another agency/department who has determined that information needs classification. If I am a government employee and I send you an email, and I label it confidential, guess what? It’s now classified. You share it, even as a civilian, guess what? You’ve broken the law. Only my supervisor chain can change the classification, and they are required by law to notify me the author of the change with a few exceptions. Say my document contains something another department/agency has determined is classified, they can essentially up the classification, but they can not alone declassify it. It’s a chain of custody process. If that other department decides to declassify the document I wrote, guess what? It’s still classified until either I or my supervisor chain determines it’s not (but again the law requires a notification and chance for the author to dispute declassification. It’s one of the reasons, the jfk files are taking so long to declassify, because some of the authors and some of the departments have not agreed to declassify. Despite congresses order to declassify those documents, the laws controlling and determining classification were not changed and therefore congresses order isn’t cans technically can’t be followed until either the agency involved or the author signs off on it. If the author is dead, it’s easier to declassify because so many more people have the ability to declassify a document.
I know it sounds simple to criticize the lack of tracking of classified, but when the very nature of a classified document being based on need to know only, others not involved technically don’t need to know. Keep in mind that literally millions of documents could be created each year bearing a classification. Prior to the presidential records act, many classified documents would just be shredded / destroyed. Now every document created in government is required to be stored by the national archives after a presidents term. The national archives doesn’t have access to the document, honestly doesn’t even know the document exists until someone has turned in their documents. Which I’m guessing that Trump cabinet members turned in documents that made reference to the classified documents Trump had. That’s why they knew Trump was retaining documents. If Trump had simply returned them when asked and or when discovered, this would be a non issue. Or should be a non issue.
When you personally pack something, that you know you shouldn’t, you wrong and guilty. But when others in the office pack items on your behalf, I don’t see the guilt or ill intentions.
Then on the other hand, you have a person stating they knew they took the item(s) and don’t want to give them back, now that’s a horse of a different color! That goes for Democrat, Republican, Independent or Liberals. President, Vice President, or Passed President…also, it doesn’t matter what Race you are!
Mic drop!!!
When I was a teen, I checked out some movies at my library. They said they were due back ‘in one week’. It was a Wednesday, so I figured I needed to bring them back the following Wednesday. Nope. ‘Tuesday’, they said when I went to turn them in. Since the first day counted, I guess. I explained the confusion, but they wouldn’t budge. They told me I couldn’t check out anything else unless I paid a ten dollar late fee. That was about 18 years ago and I haven’t set foot in a library since.
@Deborah Freedman
Okay, Deborah, how does some hacker in Iran break into a computer that is not connected to any outside source?
How does whatever agencies documents are found not know there gone?
Will Republicans and FOX ask why his home was not raided like Melanie’s closet? Not a peep I suspect.
I can tell immediately if a hammer is missing from my garage, they don’t notice when documents are missing for over a decade. CRAZY!
They need a new filing system. The most sensitive documents can’t just go poof into the wind with noone noticing.
@Justin H. Imagine working in an office environment and finding that files are coming up missing. I’ve never worked for a company that would tolerate that kind of sloppiness. I know that’s not really a good comparison, but . . .
@li2us …..but it is! This is unbelievable! Whoever gave Brandon the documents and didn’t get them back should be jailed also! No wonder Noone trusts anyone. These people can’t do the simplest things,can’t follow simple rules and there in charge of trillions of our dollars.
When you check out a book at the public library, You get an overdue notice if you don’t return it. Why can’t they do the same?
What’s wrong Biden lovers? Y’all are mighty quiet after your boy got caught with more documents😂😂😂💀💀💀. Gonna get butt hurt, cry and try to defend these facts snowflakes?❄️❄️❄️😘😂💀. If Biden needed over 25,000 troops to guard him from the people on Inauguration Day, then it’s clear that he wasn’t elected by the people😘😉😂😎💀
@Not perfect and never will be Yeah, probably.
@ck1986
What’s wrong Mendacious MAGA Manure Mover (MMMM) types? You are mighty quiet after your VP MMMM boy got caught with documents in his Indiana which he had in the VP residence in DC during his term of office.
Gonna get butt hurt, cry, and try to defend and excuse and justify these facts after Pence verbally tore into the present Article II office holder for being in possession of documents from his 8 years as the US VP?
Karma.
@shelley king Actually, NARA was notified, by someone who works at Maralago, that Trump had been showing, what appeared to be classified information, to guests at his little club. That is what sent them scurrying to find out what was missing. Somehow I doubt either Biden or Pence had been so dismissive of national security.
Underrated comment!
How about no one takes classified documents ever. If u need to look at them then go to a secure location and look. No more taking them somewhere else without approval from Nara.
That makes all the sense in the world.
That’s not how it works, or could work. Do you think NARA keeps track of all classified documents? It doesn’t. I receives documents, from POTUS and VPOTUS, when they leave office, and keep track of those. But, other classified documents, like those generated in the several branches of the military, DARPA, ONE, FBI, CIA, etc. etc. never go to the archives, but are retained (hopefully) in the issuing department.
@Deborah Freedman clearly it’s not working.
Regardless of party,they all need to be held accountable!!!
I completely agree!
@J B it’s not so cut and dry as that.
@Kyle Sawkon So you say.
@Bob Cob Just because nobody knew you stole them doesn’t erase that fact that you did steal them. If a tree falls in the woods does it still make a sound because no one’s hears it?
@kay armstrong its a media frenzy over who has documents. Pence is just the latest no matter who cares about it. Its a deflecting from who stole documents and denied it.
Isn’t there a gov’t agency tracking the movements of classified docs? Who ruled them as classified to begin with? Is the same entity charged with tracking them? National Archives? National Security Agency? If the docs are out of place, and are missing — from what agency are they missing? WHO hasn’t been paying attention to what’s missing from their files? Why don’t they run a simple report and learn from it what’s missing? Let it be known to those who have them and tell them a gov agency rep will be there shortly to retrieve them. Why is this such a mystery?
@Canis lupus
And every governmental agency, office, department, installation which has authority to classify materials it creates also has means and methods and protocol to use and store those materials safely as well as destroy documents and records which have outlived the need for which they were created.
It’s nuts for people to think that the US ambassador in Zambia has to send the very documents he needs on a daily basis to run that embassy back to the US Archive every evening and then check them all out the next morning. He handles classified material all the time and it is kept securely in the embassy as is true for all ambassadors and US embassies around the world and every US military installation and every government contractor.
Seems necessary to say this again for those who don’t understand: an archive is a repository for materials of historical significance. It is not a library.
@Emma Willard, exactly. At my agency, we have secured storage areas for our sensitive (PII) documents and other materials.
@Merri M Thousands of people in the government or in the private sector working for government have authority to classify documents.
They are kept according to security protocols and procedures where they are needed on a daily basis.
@Canis lupus Same here. When my company did business with the federal government, we had a separate safe in a separate area of the office for papers related to government business and the entry into the space where that safe was cemented into the floor required two different keys assigned to two different people to open the door. The combination on the safe was changed regularly and the combo changer never had one of the keys to the door. Even as civilians we were terrified that we might screw up and end up in a federal pokey.
Who has checked the profiles of people working in National Archives cause they could actually be foreign spies .
“We don’t know much about these documents” … maybe because they have classified information🤔🤔
It’s not just the matter of someone possessing classified documents (which is problematic in itself) it’s about how they came into possession of them and what they did when they discovered they had them. If someone took them intentionally and/or refused to return them when asked, that someone IS THE REAL PROBLEM.
@Tobias Birmingham Biden is blesed by God to bring back morality and greatness to America after his predecessor trashed it
@Lexy Thomas Back at ya. Voted for Johnson in ’16’ and wrote in for ’20’ Trumplicans believe anyone who wants Trump held accountable to be left. I’m unaffiliated. A cultist disregards fact for belief. Trumplican cultists believe anything Trump, and his minions and followers tell them. Most people? you mean the 80 or so million out of 300+ million? Looking forward to your posts when the Indictments start coming out a couple of months from now and during trials.
@jim perkins , Biden is a patriot blessed by God. It’s interesting how the criminals really get triggered when a just and honest man is elected into office.
@Asleep Awake Being blessed by a Canaanite god is not a good thing and stolen elections still matter. Now repent before it’s to late to save your soul heathen.
@awakenedbyhisgrace
The fact that you still say “TDS” is pitiful.
I’m a retired librarian and library administrator who was in charge of university libraries for more than half of my 43 year career. During that time, I was asked several times by widows of distinguished professors to go through their files, before they were turned over to the university archives or another repository. The reason I was asked to perform this service was the not-inappropriately-feared likelihood that a survey of the gentlemen’s papers would turn up awkward, embarrassing or otherwise problematic things. Indeed, in each case, I came upon cashes of pornography from various eras; evidence, at least, that the subjects had lusty appetites for the pornstars, and commonplace fetishes of their era. Better that I uncovered this and disappeared it, than young technician Missy, at the archives, being presented with evidence for the emeritus professor’s appetite, say, for femdom or BDSM, or underage, God forbid, which I never encountered.
Everybody who has files has stuff they would like to hide or lose, plus, stuff they forgot about, or stuff they lost. What is needed here is a serious protocol and robust procedures, not just in the Executive branch, ideally, carried out by someone other than the subject’s personal staff. Also, deadlines for handing over various classifications would be good. It might help bring a bit or order out of the chaos of a typical transition.
In the US State of North Dakota all attorney general’s emails, edocs and anything on a ND State computer were destroyed, on occasion of his death last year
@THE I would think you would know, your comment is a statement, not a question.
@Jose Gonzalez at least inform the public how severe are the documents that Joe and pence had in their possession. We know Trump had some serious documents.
@M R The truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, otherwise you are a stinking liar. keep your editing to yourself. When we need your opinion, we will give it to you.
@Chris Newman unfortunately in America a lot of people assume everyone looks at porn…because they think it’s normal behavior and don’t realize it’s an addiction problem.
So it’s never addressed in the proper manner. We have a declining IQ and our sense of morality has almost disappeared. Therefore you can’t expect much out of today’s Americans! Sad but true…and many have STDs and believe that also normal. 😭
They gotta stop printing classified documents on sticky paper.
I’m sure, and it is shocking because it shouldn’t even be able to happen, but I’m sure that it’s becoming very evident this is an all too common for this to happen. Every document generated must be thoroughly tracked from inception until they are where they belong at the end of every administration. Each person must be registered as having it and not removed from the “list” until said document is returned to where it belongs. If they have to be kept in the skiff or whatever it is called and only viewed there, never to leave (which is what I thought the procedure was to begin with), it has to be completely enforced. Sorry to the President’s, Vice President’s etc you will no longer be accommodated for your precious time and leisure, that benefit has to end!
Here is the recommended clip that say it :
https://youtu.be/gEC-yYhKFH4
What’s wrong Biden lovers? Y’all are mighty quiet after your boy got caught with more documents😂😂😂💀💀💀. Gonna get butt hurt, cry and try to defend these facts snowflakes?❄️❄️❄️😘😂💀. If Biden needed over 25,000 troops to guard him from the people on Inauguration Day, then it’s clear that he wasn’t elected by the people😘😉😂😎💀
The National Archives should be ultimately responsible for not keeping track of where classified documents are at all times. Much stricter records need to be kept concerning who has each specific document and when they are to be returned. Every public library does a much better job of this!
@Ben H A serious database.
@Merri M You’re right, it should be simple. But this is the government, so…
@Ben H Public libraries have millions of books, yet they manage to keep track of every book in every branch and which books have been checked out.
@Ben H I hear you, but of course documents should have a special labeling system which will identify each one without revealing the specifics.
I doubt the archives ever received these documents, to be logged in. Many different agencies create classified documents, and some don’t keep track of them.
I’ve been saying this since DAY ONE! Every former POTUS and VP should have their offices, libraries, homes checked for classified or govt documents. AND any of those congressmen who sat on the Intelligence Committee.
No you haven’t shut up
And you are?
There’s a problem with who is in charge of archiving and maintaining accountability of documents who’s in charge?
I remember co-workers getting instantly fired for security violations. It was things like not locking a safe or leaving a document on a copier. But taking documents home? I never saw anything on that level. We would have been prosecuted and sent to jail. There’s a completely different standard for rich and famous politicians.
wow, sounds like you worked at a real sht hole low income place…
not rich and famous, they have friends in very high places.
@cezusjoseph life they were the ones in high places. President and Vice President. Can’t get higher.
Why do folks like you not get this yet? There are different levels of classification. Unless it’s confirmed they are all top secret documents, then it’s very believable that they can accidentally take documents marked classified back to their home office.
I keep having to explain this scenario all the time. If you have several thousands of documents in your White House office with tens or hundreds of classified material , and then on your last day of work, you get to pack a couple of boxes home, there’s a high chance you can accidentally pack a few classified docs back home.
So unless there’s a a specific protocol used to check every document leaving the White House, then this will always be a normal behavior of human beings.
Trump on the other hand sounds guilty because he failed to return the missing documents that were asked for.
Also people like you will go to jail, because you are handling one or two classified documents in your office(no excuse for you to take them home as an accident) . President and Vice President deal with thousands in their office(they have excuse that they accidentally took 50 documents home) when someone else moves their belongings home.
Sensitive documents on a copier,?, that makes sense.
I did a Google search on which agencies are responsible for securing classified documents, and there were several. But the National Archives was NOT one of them. Which raised my eyebrows.
I’m totally surprised at the frequency, and amount, of the classified documents that are not where they should be. When I dealt with classified documents (many moons ago) we were required to sign them out (if we were allowed to) and sign them back in when we were done with them. The “caretakers” of the documents (FBI, etc) took great care to know where all of their documents were at any point in time.
Jared kushner under investigation and got two billion dollars from Saudi Arabia with don’s and cons big time and McCarthy needs to investigate mike pence big time now Lmao! Traitors and hypocrites everytime 💥
What’s wrong Biden lovers? Y’all are mighty quiet after your boy got caught with more documents😂😂😂💀💀💀. Gonna get butt hurt, cry and try to defend these facts snowflakes?❄️❄️❄️😘😂💀. If Biden needed over 25,000 troops to guard him from the people on Inauguration Day, then it’s clear that he wasn’t elected by the people😘😉😂😎💀
I don’t understand how such a custodian wouldn’t ask where the hell that document was OVERNIGHT let alone after someone WAS NO LONGER EMPLOYED??????
I was concerned if I had any in my house so I did a search. I was surprised to find some Classified Ads that I HAD NO IDEA were there. Now I see how they could have forgotten these documents in their homes. I wonder how many Jim Jordan has in his. Maybe they need to hire a librarian at the National Archives, though at this point one has to wonder how many are left in the Archive.
As I said as long as the politician is willing to cooperate with the Gov after documents where found to be missing Nothing should be done to the politician. But if the politician forces the FBI to raid your building, because you refuse to return documents they know you have and lie about it, you should be prosecuted.
Because every politician has probably mistakenly taken documents home when leaving office and mistakes do happen.
I’m
Allegedly presidents have authority to classified documents. VPS don’t. Biden was a vp when he obtained those documents.
FACTS!!!