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Heilemann: If history Is A Guide, The Race Being Determine Now | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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    1. @Everquest Sales This will be known in the future as the ‘American Pandemic’; it won’t matter where it began—what will be remembered is how one country failed to handle it costing the lives of so many of its citizens.

    2. @Ged Farnan Yes China failed to handle this and china needs to be held responsible.

    3. @Everquest Sales China isn’t in charge of your country!
      How you handle your own mess is what counts.
      The so-called ‘Spanish Flu’ originated in Kansas,USA.
      Do you think USA was “held responsible” or do you think people got on with dealing with it??
      Grow up and stop trying to blame your mess on someone else.
      You don’t need a scapegoat you need action!

  1. If trump had done the right thing on the virus from the beginning he would look like a hero. By lying about everything he has made things worse and looks like a buffoon.

    1. @wee huddy lol france, italy are just two examples who got crushed. Nobody saw this coming, like i said everyone is a genius after the fact

    2. @l vande every country was flooded with passengers. you act like the US is living in a vaccuum….whole world shut down lol

      and china should be blamed btw for no transparency/terrible info and held accountable

    3. @DatGuy Close your eyes all you like … Trump shut down the relevant agencies and splintered the others . He was briefed on protocols by the Obama people when he was sworn in with the predicable results . His intel knew in December , but he hates to read and he only likes his intel folks when he is looking for something to rage at . My country is on it’s third day of no new cases , whereas 2,954 of your fellow Americans died yesterday , not infected , died . Still laughing ?

    4. @wee huddy what country are u from ? You cant compare to the US in case u from some smallass country lol

    5. @DatGuy
      Happy to be anywhere you MAGA halfwits aren’t . Laugh it up , 70,000 of your fellow Americans dead … That is in addition to the shootings , the opioid ODs , the heart disease , the morbid obesity , the compromised ,poisoned food chain the crappy healthcare , the non existent education system … yeah , sucks to be here … oh woe is me

  2. Dump Trump then put him on trial for his crimes. No more hiding behind the presidency.

    1. Biden would have to agree to investigate trump, If history dictates! Trump wont be investigated after. Because its kind of a old boy thing!

    2. Unfortunately presidents seem to get a free pass. Otherwise Bush & Cheney would be locked up for killing millions.

  3. Trump must have been watching as he is off his rocker on twitter crying about Joe

    1. 2pacalypsePast’sGhost
      good!
      hey trump, since you are watching……..
      go 🖕 yourself.

    2. @Meg Don’t give in to political hoaxes. There is only one confirmed, self-admitted pussygrabber in this election.

    1. I WISH he’d Fall off an Elevator and break his HIP and hit his head and end up with Amnesia lying in a hospital bed “in Traction” and coughing with the corona VIRUS!!!

    2. @Uncle Ed, Biden is the worst candidate the Democrats could have picked, but he’s running against the worst president in history. In a choice between bad and worst, you should go with bad.

    3. @Uncle Ed I would literally bet money that Biden will win.

      And let me tell you, I don’t have a lot of cash to spare right now, so that should tell you something.

  4. Between Nov 3rd and Jan 20th this country will be in the most precarious position we have ever been in. He can do more damage in that time than the rest of his failed presidency.

    1. There are no constraints other than certain traditional ones — which Trump, by his nature, won’t respect if violating them promises to help him in any way.  A number of Presidents, knowing they are about to be replaced by a President from the other political party, have in the past acted during the transition so as to intentionally leave their successor with a thorny problem — a war, economic turmoil, a spate of newly-passed unpopular regulations, etc. — to sort out on Day One. There’s also the Official Records Act, which dictates that all official documentation at the Federal level be preserved for perusal by Congress, and for eventual filing in the National Archives. But Trump, as he routinely did in his business life, will destroy all compromising papers and electronic files and claim they never existed. Literally, on 2-3 different occasions while being sued for the release of records of the Trump Organization, Trump claimed that “the warehouse In NJ” in which they were supposedly stored had unfortunately burned down!

    2. Looks like the world is f**ked , you ain’t gonna hold trump to account all he has to do now is declare war on china for this virus , the patriotidiotic population will back him ,the senate will back him , he declares the November elections postponed and he has won , he might even demand the senate give him more powers and declare the opposition press as unpatriotic and shut them down . This is how all fascist dictators get into power. He has already outmanoeuvred you..

    3. @Lon Chan Thankfully, it’s written into our Constitution that his presidency expires in January. No matter what, he loses his power then (if he doesn’t first win re-election). I don’t *think* there’s any way around that…

    4. After leaving office, the only thing he will be running is “for his life!” Having vacuumed up as much Federal money as he and his family can, they will all flee to Saudi Arabia or Russia (“to work on new real estate projects”), though the Kushners may make for Israel instead. These are all countries that have harbored bad guys (incld. Idi Amin!) in the past, and will never extradite him. Trump will stay overseas until dead, at which point all prosecutorial efforts are by law moot.

  5. The most incompetent of world leaders what a shame. meanwhile the americans are dying while we are not at war.

    1. We’re at War cuz we don’t want a sexual predator in the White House and that’s all you got is Joe Biden creepy Joe

    2. Really I feel like that crown falls on the head of China’s leader. You know the one that let this virus go global. Food for thought.

    1. GrimJerr , I’m sure trump*called China and said” hey listen I got this favorite ask of you! I’m going to accuse you of this virus until I get reelected and then I will give you the biggest trade deal that I can give you.”So don’t be mad at us,you know kind of ignore what seeing on the news media today! Trust me China you will get the biggest trade deal of a lifetime once I am reelected! I don’t have any other Chicks(I mean tricks) in my bag other than to accuse you!

    2. Word bruh…..I fully intend to celebrate LARGE when he loses but the two months he is still in office concerns me so much I may STAY with the drinking portion of said celebration until he’s dragged out of the WH

    3. Kathy Franklund You must be thinking of when Obama told the president of Russia that he would have more flexibility after the election. Look it up.

    4. Above All, United Right away typical lefty name calling is all you’ve got. Not a big fan of fox. You must be kidding yourself if you don’t think the CCP would let their own people die cover up for inflicting this pandemic on the world. Just look at their record of human rights violations. You’re just too brainwashed by CNN to see the truth. Stay safe and stop the name calling

    5. His wikkle hands will pound and pound on the button on his desk and the Army guy will bring him two, thwee, many Diet Cokes.

    1. @Michael M fairly easy…if Trump had taken early proactive measures to shut travel coming in from Europe and China as well as check inventory stock of PPE..in addition to heeding the mulitiple early warnings from intelligence we wouldn’t be in the mess that we are in. If only. If only.

    2. turntableone thats easy to say after the fact. Trump did not shut down business and make laws on distancing and mask wearing, local government did that. Trump supports our rights and has made no laws agains them. Only god could have prevented this. Trump has done everything in his power to help.

    3. @Michael M they didn’t make laws on distancing…Trump did say that he felt the governor of Georgia opened his state up too soon for business..it all starts with Trump for instead of relying on his gut he should have opted to listen to the intelligence experts for we would have had fewer infections and fatalities.

  6. Trump literally killing his campaign by himself while Biden barely needs to do much 😂

    1. Hey Joe quit talking about it please you said it 12 times at leasest and please let mika speak sometimes not just to begin a spew but let her get out a full question please.

    2. @Joe Biden is the man! Didn’t Christine Blasey Ford teach us anything? We have to believe women and “it’s the seriousness of the charge”. Remember Johnny? Eva Murry was only 14 years old when Joe propositioned her. She was terrorized by a serial offender and needs to be heard. ‘Dem’ are the rules Johnny.

    3. @Paul Akula The media used their vast resources for years on that snipe hunt and came up with nothing. It was a big yawn.

    1. Charles Stevenson
      No it’s no because people understand that this virus doesn’t care about you view on social issues and they want someone who isn’t go to tell people to inject disinfected into their veins.

  7. There’s a proven sexual predator in the WH now, ‘n that doesn’t seem to be a problem.

    1. @N. deG It was also awkward when Dr. Christine Ford came out with her sexual assault allegations against Brett Kavanaugh. Timing in itself does not disapprove any allegation. In fact, if this really was a plot against Biden, the best time to come out with these allegations would be in late October of 2020.

    2. @Safety First “BUT CLINTON!” Can you make a argument that is not blaming someone else when you are defending Trump?
      So far I have yet to see any Trump supporters do that.

    3. unclepatrick2 Why is Ba Ba Ba Biden still hiding in the Basement that doesn’t look like a leader but a Coward!

  8. “Americans are losing confidence that Trump can handle the pandemic”. Losing???? How could you have any confidence to lose after the last four months? Is there even a single example in this whole story of gross incompetence, ignorance and deceit that would convince anyone that Trump could effectively manage this crisis?

    In November, the real story will be this … over the next four years, there is going to be at least one other national crisis. After the destruction of human life, economic might and global influence, would you really choose to have four more years of this charlatan fumbling the response, dividing the population, embarrassing the United States on the global stage and being utterly invisible as a leader?

    I can’t believe that’s even a real question!

    1. @Peter Robertson Immature name-calling and what-aboutisms is all the Trump supporters have to defend the likes of Trump. It’s scary to think about how Trump will react to losing in November. It will be a long two months for the US.

    2. @John Swo – long is one thing, John – I have more worries about social stability and rule of law.

    3. Peter – until you try to get to grips with why 45% of Americans still support the orange toddler, you won’t understand US politics. It’s good that you admit to being mystified, now start to mix with a far wider range of people. Once safe, try door knocking campaigning in red States – it’s mind blowing.

    4. I agree with Mike bellow and you. “It’s not Trump. A country that elects a Trump is already in serious trouble.” E Warren

  9. The World has held us in awe, fear, contempt, jealousy, thankfulness, and scorn. Now the World just pities us.

    1. CGeezer Yes we pity you, but we also dont understand why you seem to want to go back to the 19th century.

    2. @imiss toronto I don’t. Over half of us didn’t vote for that clown show in the white house.

    3. @Anne Harris Yes, but it seems that You are fine with Electoral College system, otherwise You surely would have changed it long ago.
      Usually in Democracy majority of votes win.

    4. @ari1234a I have never been fine with it. I wasn’t fine in 2000. I think the majority vote should be the winner. I have complained to congressman, senators, etc. I ve never thought the original intent was to supercede the popular vote. There are still a few Americans who do not understand the electoral college. If you have any ideas I m certainly willing to listen.

  10. We cannot re-elect President Kamikaze. He is a failed leader. His now literally killing us with his lies.

    1. It’s not Trump! It’s the people. Who did elect this evil man? Who is enabling this animal?

    2. Unfortunately we have a pretty weak challenger. I fear that Joe’s lack of enthusiasm will hurt democrats in congressional and Senate races.

  11. It’s just awful the toll this virus is having on economy, and health. On the bright side it’s destroying Trump.

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