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Jason Johnson, Professor at Morgan State University, discusses the complicated history of Trumpism and reveals that even if Trump is removed from office, there is the potential another politician with similar policies and tactics could rise within the Republican party. Aired on 10/23/2020.
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  1. Correct. Trump was the logical endpoint for more than 50 years of Republican propaganda. And the Republican party knows it works now. Next election, we’ll have Trump 2.0. But this time, they’ll actually be competent.

  2. Progressive Humanist | October 23, 2020 at 7:12 PM | Reply

    As long as there is a GOP, US democracy is under attack.
    We are in for the long fight to save our country. Complacency is not an option: that’s what got us here after decades of ignoring the far-right hollowing out our democracy.

    • I’m an Independent voting for Biden but I think you are wrong. At least, I hope you are wrong. The Republican party has lost their way and needs to find it again. They have been selling themselves out for votes for decades now instead of standing up for what they formerly believed in. According to Stuart Stevens (“It Was All a Lie”) he characterizes true Republican beliefs as character counts, personal responsibility, strong on Russia, the national debt actually mattered, immigration made America great, a big tent party invited all. We don’t want to be a one-party country for then we will be China. We need the difference of ideas which come from more than one party (perhaps we should have more than 2), the dialog and the argument, but we need this with respect for each other and a deep understanding that we are all Americans who love our country. I think Biden can help us move in this direction and I applaud him for including some Repubs on his potential transition team and also the rumors out there that he is considering some Repubs for cabinet positions, etc. EXACTLY what needs to happen, IMHO.

    • We need a vibrant opposition party, but one that shares American values and differs on how best to achieve them. That is the only way to regain progressive momentum in order to form a more perfect union. All hope is not lost… yet

    • Keith Johnson - Shelby GT500 | October 23, 2020 at 8:22 PM | Reply

      *WSJ: Biden Economics Will Lead To $6,500 Drop In Median Annual Household Income*
      Oct 19, 2020 https://lidblog.com/biden-economics/

      *According to a Hover institute Study analyzed by the Wall Street Journal, the Biden economic plan will result in the median annual American household income to drop by $6,500. The Hoover study examines Biden’s proposals on health insurance, taxes, energy, and regulation.*

      ~ Overall, the authors estimate that the Biden agenda, if fully implemented, would reduce full-time equivalent employment per person by about 3%, the capital stock per person by some 15%, and real GDP per capita by more than 8%. Compared to Congressional Budget Office estimates for these variables in 2030, this means there would be 4.9 million fewer working Americans, $2.6 trillion less in GDP, and $6,500 less in median household income.

      Or, to put it more directly–we will be screwed.

      Per the Journal, we probably won’t go into the depression predicted by President Trump; however, things will get pretty depressing. He would start with a booming economy set up by President Trump, but things will slow down and sink into malaise.

      The study explains many factors behind income reductions. A big part of it is the taxes and regulations that will disincentivize hiring. The opposite of what Trump did to get the economy going.

      ~ Mr. Biden is also proposing substantial increases in business tax rates that will raise the cost of capital. The former Vice President likes to say he’d only raise the top corporate tax rate to 28% from 21%. But so-called pass-through entities (often small businesses) employ more than 40 million Americans, and most pay taxes at the individual tax rate.

      ~ “Biden’s plan to raise personal income and payroll tax rates would push their federal rates from below 40 percent to, often, above 50 percent, and these are on top of state income taxes,” the authors write.

      ~ Mr. Biden would also raise capital costs by phasing down bonus depreciation in the 2017 tax reform, and he’d raise labor costs by imposing the 12.4% Social Security payroll tax to income above $400,000. The $400,000 threshold isn’t indexed for inflation so it would apply to ever-more Americans as the years go by.

      The study goes into detail explaining how Biden’s health and energy plans will also increase the cost of employing people eventually leading to higher unemployment—lower household income.

      Biden learned how to prevent a full booming economy from Barack Obama. The bottom line is that if you want a growth economy, vote for Trump.

    • Keith Johnson - Shelby GT500 | October 23, 2020 at 9:05 PM | Reply

      *Biden’s economic plans spell disaster for small businesses*
      Aug 12, 2020

      *Like many Democrats, Joe Biden is full of promises. The Democratic presidential candidate recently vowed to create 3 million jobs in caregiving and early education as part of his “Build Back Better” economic agenda.*

      Investing $1.3 trillion into American infrastructure. Moving the U.S. economy to net-zero greenhouse gas emissions. Rebuilding the middle class. These are all Biden promises, yet his treatment of small businesses is even more troubling than the hot air.

      According to Biden’s campaign website, the plan for small business is to punish “corporate America.” In promising to help “small businesses and entrepreneurs come out on the other side of this crisis,” the Biden campaign immediately pivots to addressing bailouts for “big corporations and Wall Street.” Biden will purportedly “ensure that corporate America finally pays their fair share in taxes,” yet makes no mention of the tax and regulatory hurdles facing small business.

      Here’s a question for Biden and other Democrats: How does punishing “big corporations and Wall Street” help independent bookstores and mom-and-pop diners?

      Of course, it doesn’t. The Democrats’ deflection should be instructive to American voters. Those political candidates who are truly interested in helping small business focus on, well, small business and lay out specific action items.

      In fact, Bidenomics would do nothing but hurt small business. Biden supports increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour, which would inundate millions of small businesses with higher labor costs. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, a $15 hourly minimum wage would cost working Americans 1.3 million jobs, as employers struggle to afford the higher wage floor. At the same time, Biden is a proponent of mandated paid time off, another government requirement that increases labor costs.

      Then there’s tax policy. Biden has promised to repeal President Trump’s Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), which would immediately raise taxes on small businesses by increasing marginal income tax rates and eliminating the 20% small-business deduction. Biden may claim to keep small businesses exempt from tax hikes, but that is simply impossible if the TCJA is repealed. Because of the TCJA, more than 1,100 small businesses have publicly announced new hires, pay raises and more employee benefits.

      Moreover, Biden vows to increase the corporate income tax rate from 21% to 28% and revert the top individual income tax rate (for taxable incomes above $400,000) back to the pre-TCJA level of 39.6%. This may seem like an attack on the “1 percent,” but small business owners earning $400,000 a year are hardly multi-millionaires and billionaires. In fact, it is precisely in the top bracket that you find job creators who provide employees and job-seekers with financial security. Target them, and career opportunities tend to dry out.

      https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2020/08/13/opinion-joe-biden-economic-plans-spell-disaster-small-businesses-taxes-donald-trump/3356143001/

    • Michelle Carter | October 23, 2020 at 9:52 PM | Reply

      GOP has a place in a democracy as long as the people guide their policies. Any party can be corrupted without a viable alternative to stop complacency. Just fix voter suppression.

  3. Lindsey Graham: “By all means, please feel free to use my own words against me. But the joke is going to be on you, because my word is worth about as much as a diploma from Trump University.” 😆

  4. Two t’rump supporters fall into a hole. One says, “Whoa, it’s dark in here, isn’t it!” The other one says, “I don’t know. I can’t see.”
    🤔😅😂🤣

  5. Trumpism can best be described as “the unspeakable.”
    “The unspeakable is ultimately a void, an emptiness of any meaning, an abyss of lies and deception. The unspeakable is the void that condradicts everything that is spoken even before the words are said; the void that gets into the language of public and official declarations at the very moment when they are pronounced, and makes them ring dead with the hollowness of the abyss.”
    —Thomas Merton

    • Keith Johnson - Shelby GT500 | October 23, 2020 at 8:22 PM | Reply

      *WSJ: Biden Economics Will Lead To $6,500 Drop In Median Annual Household Income*
      Oct 19, 2020 https://lidblog.com/biden-economics/

      *According to a Hover institute Study analyzed by the Wall Street Journal, the Biden economic plan will result in the median annual American household income to drop by $6,500. The Hoover study examines Biden’s proposals on health insurance, taxes, energy, and regulation.*

      ~ Overall, the authors estimate that the Biden agenda, if fully implemented, would reduce full-time equivalent employment per person by about 3%, the capital stock per person by some 15%, and real GDP per capita by more than 8%. Compared to Congressional Budget Office estimates for these variables in 2030, this means there would be 4.9 million fewer working Americans, $2.6 trillion less in GDP, and $6,500 less in median household income.

      Or, to put it more directly–we will be screwed.

      Per the Journal, we probably won’t go into the depression predicted by President Trump; however, things will get pretty depressing. He would start with a booming economy set up by President Trump, but things will slow down and sink into malaise.

      The study explains many factors behind income reductions. A big part of it is the taxes and regulations that will disincentivize hiring. The opposite of what Trump did to get the economy going.

      ~ Mr. Biden is also proposing substantial increases in business tax rates that will raise the cost of capital. The former Vice President likes to say he’d only raise the top corporate tax rate to 28% from 21%. But so-called pass-through entities (often small businesses) employ more than 40 million Americans, and most pay taxes at the individual tax rate.

      ~ “Biden’s plan to raise personal income and payroll tax rates would push their federal rates from below 40 percent to, often, above 50 percent, and these are on top of state income taxes,” the authors write.

      ~ Mr. Biden would also raise capital costs by phasing down bonus depreciation in the 2017 tax reform, and he’d raise labor costs by imposing the 12.4% Social Security payroll tax to income above $400,000. The $400,000 threshold isn’t indexed for inflation so it would apply to ever-more Americans as the years go by.

      The study goes into detail explaining how Biden’s health and energy plans will also increase the cost of employing people eventually leading to higher unemployment—lower household income.

      Biden learned how to prevent a full booming economy from Barack Obama. The bottom line is that if you want a growth economy, vote for Trump.

    • @Logan McLean You may have missed the meaning of that quote. Merton’s focus was on the abyss itself, the darkness that envelops politics when when men do unspeakable things. The quote was referencing the horror of the Kennedy assassination. It resonates today, a majority of Americans are horrified at the abysmal state of our political system today.

    • Wow did you jump off the deep end… well if that’s the unspeakable, then Trump comes pretty close.

    • @Eddie G. Robinson why are you bringing Hippocrates into it?

  6. trump unfit for president

  7. Tahtahme's Diary | October 23, 2020 at 7:26 PM | Reply

    If Lindsay Graham wins reelection he will be hugging Biden and offering to carry his book bags 😂😂😂😭😭😭🙌🏾 SO TRUE!!!

  8. I wish good luck to Biden solving the big mess after Trump.

    • Don Jr or Mike Pence will be in good shape after Trump’s 2nd term. Don’t worry snowflake

    • @Donald Trumpp stupid is as stupid does

    • Keith Johnson - Shelby GT500 | October 23, 2020 at 9:05 PM | Reply

      *Biden’s economic plans spell disaster for small businesses*
      Aug 12, 2020

      *Like many Democrats, Joe Biden is full of promises. The Democratic presidential candidate recently vowed to create 3 million jobs in caregiving and early education as part of his “Build Back Better” economic agenda.*

      Investing $1.3 trillion into American infrastructure. Moving the U.S. economy to net-zero greenhouse gas emissions. Rebuilding the middle class. These are all Biden promises, yet his treatment of small businesses is even more troubling than the hot air.

      According to Biden’s campaign website, the plan for small business is to punish “corporate America.” In promising to help “small businesses and entrepreneurs come out on the other side of this crisis,” the Biden campaign immediately pivots to addressing bailouts for “big corporations and Wall Street.” Biden will purportedly “ensure that corporate America finally pays their fair share in taxes,” yet makes no mention of the tax and regulatory hurdles facing small business.

      Here’s a question for Biden and other Democrats: How does punishing “big corporations and Wall Street” help independent bookstores and mom-and-pop diners?

      Of course, it doesn’t. The Democrats’ deflection should be instructive to American voters. Those political candidates who are truly interested in helping small business focus on, well, small business and lay out specific action items.

      In fact, Bidenomics would do nothing but hurt small business. Biden supports increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour, which would inundate millions of small businesses with higher labor costs. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, a $15 hourly minimum wage would cost working Americans 1.3 million jobs, as employers struggle to afford the higher wage floor. At the same time, Biden is a proponent of mandated paid time off, another government requirement that increases labor costs.

      Then there’s tax policy. Biden has promised to repeal President Trump’s Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), which would immediately raise taxes on small businesses by increasing marginal income tax rates and eliminating the 20% small-business deduction. Biden may claim to keep small businesses exempt from tax hikes, but that is simply impossible if the TCJA is repealed. Because of the TCJA, more than 1,100 small businesses have publicly announced new hires, pay raises and more employee benefits.

      Moreover, Biden vows to increase the corporate income tax rate from 21% to 28% and revert the top individual income tax rate (for taxable incomes above $400,000) back to the pre-TCJA level of 39.6%. This may seem like an attack on the “1 percent,” but small business owners earning $400,000 a year are hardly multi-millionaires and billionaires. In fact, it is precisely in the top bracket that you find job creators who provide employees and job-seekers with financial security. Target them, and career opportunities tend to dry out.

      https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2020/08/13/opinion-joe-biden-economic-plans-spell-disaster-small-businesses-taxes-donald-trump/3356143001/

    • if Biden is elected ( I hope ) he won’t be able to unfix the fuckups that Trump made in his 4 years. It’s far easier to destroy than to create.

    • Michelle Carter | October 23, 2020 at 9:49 PM | Reply

      @Cassidy Smith Good cops need more support.

  9. “It’s not getting any smarter out there.”
    – Frank Zappa

  10. Mr President “your fired!”.

  11. BIDEN 2020🇺🇸🔥

  12. Trumpism is just the latest iteration. This sentiment precedes Oompa loompa.

  13. It is if he goes to jail an is never heard of again

  14. Go Joe Gooooooo, love you man, Go Joe Gooooooo much prayer for you!

  15. odlienough Shaddon | October 23, 2020 at 7:49 PM | Reply

    I completely agree, there has been the start of a wedge, hammered into the minds of trump followers…
    This is going to take time, we can do it, a resilient nation…

    • You are correct, it will take time, and much dedication. Personal involvement and building a community to keep the change going will be needed. Grass roots stuff.

    • odlienough Shaddon | October 23, 2020 at 8:54 PM | Reply

      @Glena Garrett yes, from the ground up, I agree completely…

  16. Let’s get this President out and hopefully Democrats can get the children back to their families, I’m sure some of these children have experience abuse

  17. 40+ years republican supporter, and I just voted ALL democrat, this despicable republican party made me. Country over party

  18. Yup, the cancer of stupid and selfish is with us forever.

  19. Doctor Fauci is a disaster, he keeps telling the truth.

    • Truth is kryptonite to satan and its children. But few understand what satan is. I do. Satan is the selfish human ego. And an anti-Christ is one who is possessed by the ego, like Trump obviously is. Trumpism IS satanism. And it is as old as human occupation of this planet. Satanism isn’t going away any time soon. But if it remains at this level – or rises – in this country, THIS COUNTRY is indeed going away. Soon. As prophesied. U.S.A…..R.I.P.

  20. Lenor Gewissen | October 23, 2020 at 8:34 PM | Reply

    As long as the majority of Americans believe in zombies and talking animals, it will only be a matter of time before a new Trump comes along. But not even MSNBC dares to even begin to address this. Sad!

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