‘No proof,’ Official defends Sweden’s controversial Covid-19 move

Sweden's State Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell tells CNN's Christiane Amanpour that, despite the country's high mortality rate, the no-lockdown strategy has "served us very well."

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  1. “Be Honest who else been watching “ “ for more than a year”😇?

    (ʀᴇᴀᴅ ᴍʏ ɴᴀᴍᴇ ʙᴛᴡ)💌

    1. Absolutely loved her special back in the day after 9/11 when she examined the culture and customs of Afghanistan. She is top-notch.

  2. America is

    23 in education.
    37 in healthcare.
    52 in gender equality.
    No high speed train.
    Highest number of homeless people.
    Highest number of incarcerated people.
    78% of people live paycheck to paycheck.

    Stock market is not economy of Americans, where 90% of money belongs to top 10% of population, it’s wallet of the rich!

    Let’s talk like adults, instead of name calling!

    I have left ample of proof on my playlist, if you would like to check.

    Let’s make our country better together…..

    1. @Diana Davis When the US had 80,000 flu deaths, did they declare an emergency? No.
      When they had a TB outbreak, which is way more fatal than corona, was an emergency declared? No….
      Every year, there are over 40,000 deaths from the flu( regular ol’ flu) but the press still has not said anything about that(CNN, FOX, MSNBC)
      Now, ask yourself why

    2. newport 11 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 contempt for someone you don’t know? Awww, I feel sorry for you. 🙃🙃 sending you 🇨🇦 love dust. Hopefully you can find some peace. Seems like you need it🤣

    3. @Frank Orozco they need context…its not what he wants you to think….its pure nonsense…look at education..for example.we spend more than any other developed nation per student …by alot!..so why is our country so low?…is it the teachers?…not likely. Is it our family structures?. Maybe..kinda? Is it that we take in 2 to 6 million people each year that dont speak english and have no education prior to arriving?…idk..but our local educators do….and they arent saying

    4. Pipe dream ain’t gonna happen yoy know Y the American people have adopted trumps bad habits. They think they know it all and that they call all the shots…

  3. When will the just relize covid 19 is an infection…it’s only job is to infect destroy and kill everything it can

    1. Clots are because the blood thickens. Amputation is because of clots. And it’s a virus. Infections can be treated by antibiotics. Viruses cannot.

    2. Actually, a virus is slightly different from bacterial infections. The one critical thing is a virus cannot reproduce on it’s own without a host. So while it’s true that it’s job is to infect the host, it’s not actually to it’s benefit to kill the host. In fact, that’s what makes Covid so tricky. If it killed everyone dead and with great efficiency, it would be a lot easier to isolate and stop.

  4. We need more responsible adult to lead with basic common sense, miracle only works in Trump’s world🤣🤣

  5. Imagine how that loss of life would look if their healthcare system was like ours.

    1. @Wesley Gordon over going bankrupt and losing my house because of a major medical issue, yes.

    2. My healthcare is great Then again I’ve been working since I was 15. You work hard, you get ahead. Just the way it should be. Now go get a job.

  6. what is the baseline mortality in sweden, so we can accurately assess “excess” deaths. Wonder if the Epi is being coerced to give a good spin on the data. Since he said that they are more stringent in their definitions, we can’t compre other countries to Sweden.

    1. Yes, we can absolutely compare excess death as that is measured the same in all countries in the euromomo project. https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps The “covid-19” deaths however is more tricky, as Sweden counts everyone who died within 30 days of a positive covid-19 test, be it heart failure or car crash.

    2. @Gonzo Kaporal When the disease appeared in Sweden it was known to the human race for only a couple of months, so we had no idea all the different ways it could kill. Thus you tally all deaths from infected and then look for patterns. Why is that obviously false?

    3. @Martin Nilsson Please stop it, the damage it caused to the lungs compared to the flu was already very alarming when Spain and Italy were submerged with cases.

    4. @Martin Nilsson The reason you didn’t know is because you didn’t listen to anyone else. You completely ignored everything else the countries that got hit first warned us about. Because of your Swedish exceptionalism, you missed dire warnings, and the exact things they warned about happened, and then Sweden is like “well there was no way to know.” You’ve LITERALLY been mocking the rest of the world for simply having the foresight that you did not, and because you still can’t admit your failure, you will continue to do a less than mediocre job at handling this virus and you’ll have to suffer a lot more to get the picture. It’s unfortunate, but you are dead set on going this way so.. all I can say is I do pity the free thinkers that have been consciously watching this slow trainwreck while the rest of you hurl abuse at them for having eyes in their skulls. Clearly your years of peace have made you soft and unable to respond effectively to deviations of any kind, and all because you can’t get over yourselves… tsk tsk.

    1. He is of course under pressure to claim he did things right, just as every other country is under pressure to claim he did things wrong (otherwise their lockdowns would have been mistakes).

  7. Current estimates according to Swedish official sources show that the level of herd “immunity” is around 8%…you need min. 70% in order to achieve herd immunity…and that s based on the assumption you can t get it twice- which has been proven wrong in the past months. It s a high risk gamble, Britain and the NL hesitated and were extremly late at responding coz they considered herd immunity as an option so they can t be held as a contrasting example…unsurprisingly, they re in the worst case group. Now look at the numbers of Germany or Denmark, both with a far higher population density but with a stringent containment approach….

    1. @Jon Engström Natural immunity isn’t good enough and it doesn’t even protect you from a 2nd infection. Sweden’s method can only work with a Vaccine.

    2. @dutchdna But 70% is likely not the actual number. 40% was theorized in March, and that’s about where T-cell + antibody immunity is in Stockholm area, giving that as a plausible explanation why cases are plummeting there despite any new action. If anything people are getting more careless.

    3. @Jon Engström Well, since early April, it s a widely acknowledged fact that ppl can and do get it twice, that having had it doesn t lead to lasting immunity, therefore antibody-based approaches which were a core assumption for herd immunity theories have been falsified. The fact that there have been fewer infections is contributed to improved distancing measures and better protection of high risk groups even by Swedish officials and clearly not by the risky herd immunity approach…which furthers the argument that stringent containment policies are far superior (let alone that you can see new spikes among countries that eased the containment policies). Furthermore, the T-cell (and actually T & B cell interaction approach) has nothing to do with the Swedish policy! It s a currently promising hope on the way to finding a vaccine…

    4. People stop listening to these so called experts and protect yourselves. Wear musks, stay home when ever possible. Only go out if it’s a must,social distance..

      While they still looking for a vaccine.

    1. The Swedes lost both,they’ve made themselves a pariah.No one is going there,empty businesses everywhere.

    1. The cases is falling rapidly the strategy is working without a lockdown thats what went right. This is a method that can be used in the long term lockdown isn’t. Everybody is counting deaths that happens right now nobody is willing to count on deaths that lockdowns lead to in the long run. Flu is killing but no one locks down a country because of a flu but i guess thouse deaths doesnt count.

  8. EXCUSES, sounds the same in any language, “we screwed up.” Sweden, America, all sounds the same.

    1. Excuses? He is the only one that say’s that the elderly people could have been taken care of better. He doesn’t want to blame thouse really responsible for the deaths in elderly care home so he takes the blame for it. We who knows how much they have saved on elderly care in Sweden knows there wasnt enough people to handle covid 19 and no material resources in place either and thats what they got in place later on but much too late. This is what happens when you privatize health care. To many greedy people whoom’s only care is profit. I’ve seen reports from America and I dont know how you can stand up with your none fact checking reporters. God bless SVT that has no hidden agendas when it comes to report fact’s.(SVT Swedish television)

    2. @Joe Hugs Hoax? Tell that to the families of those who lost loved ones!! I know, my family is one of them!! It is no hoax. Bet your a flerfer and an antivaxxer. You are the result of ‘dumbing down’. Not the ppl of NY!!

    3. @Filip dahlberg Sweden has. Look at neighbouring Norway, Denmark and Finlands numbers. Nothing like Sweden. They opened their borders to each other but not to Sweden Swedes have to isolate for 14 days if they go anywhere in Europe because Europe can see they made an arse of it.

    1. What’s your plan… Hide under the bed forever. Guess who’s putting that food in the grocery store you are buying?

    1. @Tomte Tomtesson are you talking about covid? We have 1/4 cases in the world and 1/6 deaths. It’s because we have feds that wanted to and still want to down play it. Heck, cant even get everyone to wear a mask. Lack of fed leadership. Obama did evola right. All trump had to do was copy the process.

    2. MOZMOLLOY what is a “comparative” neighbor? Belgium is tiny, has a continental climate, Sweden is huge, on the Baltic… they are close in total population, but that’s about all they have in common.

    3. MOZMOLLOY look at population density in Scandinavian countries compared with UK and western continent. You’d expect more infection in dense areas, not in sparsely populated areas. This guy is either in denial or he is making a specious argument: there are less than a million people in Stockholm.

      https://www.chegg.com/homework-help/questions-and-answers/europe-population-distribution-2017-20-arctic-circle-7-europe-highly-populated-region-sub–q35353953

    1. @Jon Engström I know there is a flu season every year. That is much different than a pandemic dude lol.

    2. @daysErlock How ? It goes through all world and kills 400k to 600k people every year ! How is it so much different ?

    3. @daysErlock Remember that in 2018 they had over 80,000 deaths from the regular flu in the US….and there are many reasons why the numbers are as high as they are; the treatment protocol was wrong to begin with, some doctors have said that the ventilators were actually killing the patients, not helping them, the numbers were artificially inflated due to hospitals piling asthma cases, flu cases and pneumonia cases in one thus presenting an overinflated number( 140,000 +)

  9. Why does no one talk about Germany? Look at the data. Always the comparison with the UK health care system. You should learn from ours…

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