Redlener: Those Downplaying Coronavirus Are Disconnected From Reality | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

Redlener: Those Downplaying Coronavirus Are Disconnected From Reality | The 11th Hour | MSNBC 1

 

Plenty of Trump loyalists, FOX News commentators and others, are downplaying the severity of the coronavirus. Pandemic influenza expert Dr. Irwin Redlener joins to talk about why that's so dangerous.
Dr. Irwin Redlener joins to discuss. Aired on 04/16/2020.
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Redlener: Those Downplaying Coronavirus Are Disconnected From Reality | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

95 Comments on "Redlener: Those Downplaying Coronavirus Are Disconnected From Reality | The 11th Hour | MSNBC"

  1. prodandmullen | April 17, 2020 at 1:17 AM | Reply

    For god sake DR OZ AND DR PHIL ARE NOT REAL DOCTORS!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE TV PERSONALITIES!!!!

    • @ccmkoho Cool, then you’re dismissing your argument.
      33,000 dead is 0.01% of the country.
      There 99.99% collapsing into govt. dependent poverty.

    • Hal Jordan , lets just say I agree we HAVE to end this absurd “shelter at home” mandate.

    • Hal Jordan , Curious enough if I asked people what virus disease has killed the most people this year I would guess 99 out of 100 would say covid-19 and they couldn’t be more wrong. With AIDS almost a factor of 3 higher, followed by Malaria. Flu and covid-19 are about the same

    • @ccmkoho Yeah, and moreover it’s just not lethal enough to do devastating damage to the country – even with zero medical help.
      80% mild to no symptoms – means 80% of the entire country is off the table of discussion.
      For relativity, Ebola in the Congo had about 2900/3400 cases die, an 85% death rate. It involved hemorrhagic fever, vomiting/coughing blood, and death – 8.5 times out of 10.
      If something like that spread, 85% of the country would die.
      It has no “80% mild/no sypmtoms” category, not high risk for the elderly only – just severe for every single person.
      This is nowhere near that.
      You don’t shutdown the country for something that isn’t that deadly. The small percentage high risk should take care wearing PPE, but then everyone else is low risk, so PPE is overkill but obviously you could still wear masks/gloves/eyewear if you’re still nervous. I’m not, it’s just not that deadly and something we have to live with now, like the flu. I don’t wear masks/gloves/eyewear for the flu, it’s overkill.
      With this spreading so easily etc., if I was elderly then I’d wear stuff – but really elderly, not like 65 and healthy – like 75-80 and super frail.

    • Dr. Oz is an actual brain Surgeon dude.

  2. It’s hilarious that some people think that, with a snap of their fingers, everything could go back to normal in an instant.

    Edit: Geez. This Endgame joke went places.

    • Noboby and I mean nobody has said that, in reality they have all said that we need to ease back in this and hopefully get back to work and return to some type of normalcy. I mean we have to unless you just want a complete collapse of the economy to get rid of trump. If that is the case then you are more of a problem than trump could ever be.

    • @Archaeopter X New german study reported by CNBC!! https://youtu.be/rMWdPRhu_p8

    • Garrett Glass | April 17, 2020 at 12:12 PM | Reply

      Steve I believe we should never have “shut down “. Constitutionally speaking, we never legally did. This all a hoax. If I slapped ford badges on all the cars of the world and incentivized everyone to leave that badge on, society would start to say they know someone or are someone who drives a Ford. It would be an pandemic of fords.

    • Archaeopter X | April 17, 2020 at 1:22 PM | Reply

      @Steve Wirhout mass testing we won’t know the actual infection rate. The virologist made it clear that flattwning the​ curve was vital to avoid overwhelming the healthcare system. Germany has a great healrhcare system, ours sucks.

    • Evert Vandenberghe | April 18, 2020 at 7:48 AM | Reply

      @Mr Anderson congratulations on your one and only degree: kindergarden…

  3. If you have been taking advice from “Dr. Phil” and “Dr. Oz” then you’ve already been duped.

    • Adept Thank You.

    • Anthony G. Sources…? You look like a fool when you just throw out numbers without citing your sources.

    • mark two If you have been taking advice from a politician…a man in a suit…then you have also been duped.

    • N Knighton If schools had been left open the spread of this virus would’ve been astronomically higher. Especially in elementary/middle schools…children are so dirty always touching each other, desks, instruments, keyboards. A lot of schools have rotating schedules too so you’d think one kid in one class is okay. But when they’ve switched rooms to PE, art, music, science, math, English, history. That’s at least 6 different desks/tables/books that a child could pass on to another in a separate class. Like they say people don’t even realize if they have it which is the scariest part. Not trying to start an argument that’s just my opinion…🤷🏽‍♂️

    • Bob The Builder | April 19, 2020 at 2:38 PM | Reply

      I don’t think they are “doctors” but maybe got a dr. For stupid.

  4. futurestoryteller | April 17, 2020 at 4:17 AM | Reply

    I think reasonable people are taking it seriously enough, you can stop fear mongering.

  5. We’re all sheep being lead to the slaughter

    • Hannibal Hyde | April 17, 2020 at 1:16 PM | Reply

      Speak for yourself..

    • Hannibal Hyde we know good and well what’s going on. Apparently you don’t. Stop cowering in your house like the little sheep you are and wake up. For centuries they have planned a total take down of the world look at it! Quit being force fed information that is clearly altered. These people contradict everything they’ve said about the “virus” from the beginning. You people are being lied to and you’re taking the bait like they knew you would. WAKE UP!

    • Hannibal Hyde I didn’t meant that comment for you! But Krispy Bacon!

    • Krispy Bacon you’re delusional. Wake up.

    • @Mariah Hye Krispy Bacon has done his in depth research and knows that the CDC and WHO are absolutely trustworthy.

  6. CrackedAmoeba Railfanning | April 17, 2020 at 8:06 AM | Reply

    Remember when u guys were reporting that trump was over reacting to the virus?

    • Christy Sours | April 17, 2020 at 12:11 PM | Reply

      @LL120 First, not everyone can get vaccinated against the flu. Second, anti-vax is a thing.

    • @Christy Sours exactly! So what makes people think this will be any different???

    • sunshizzleyou | April 17, 2020 at 1:38 PM | Reply

      @Peaches Williams – That’s beyond the point. The point is that this all is an incredibly complex and fluid situation where we are learning new things every day. Both the WHO, and CDC downplayed the virus from the start as well. This petty action of critiquing someone’s views weeks ago, whether that’s the media, Trump, etc., is pointless and futile.
      It’s those that are able to change their minds and actions accordingly to new information are those who deserve respect. Tump has been flexible and humble enough to alter his views and direction accordingly. Perhaps it’s time for you to do the same.

    • Harry Hatesu | April 17, 2020 at 1:53 PM | Reply

      @LL120 the TDS living rent free is strong with these losers

    • Harry Hatesu | April 17, 2020 at 1:55 PM | Reply

      @sunshizzleyou those are not Trumps views he has advisors which I am sure you are aware of.

  7. As I recall, most media sources including msnbc were downplaying this

    • The virus is Fake. Viruses are not contagious. The body produces a substance what they call virus that defends the body from toxins. Animal viruses are deadly to humans. The only way to get animal viruses is if they are injected. If vaccines are not mandatory then they cant get everybody infected. Mandatory vaccines are the plan. Viruses that produce diseases are the biggest scam of the century.

    • Harm Gregory | April 18, 2020 at 5:36 PM | Reply

      @Jose Mama is incorrect.

    • Harm Gregory | April 18, 2020 at 5:38 PM | Reply

      @James Weir seems ‘out of touch with reality’. Sorry.

    • Harm Gregory | April 18, 2020 at 5:40 PM | Reply

      @Harry Hatesu is mistaken. AND has made an incorrect analysis of the situation.

    • Harm Gregory how stupid are you? roswell rachel kept you avocado eating basement dwellers enthralled for 2 1/2 years, lying to your face nightly, only to be squashed by Mueller’s nothing report. 0 credibility unless you suffer from Level 6 TDS, which you obviously do. go away boychick, this isn’t media blathers.

  8. Rusty Shackleford | April 17, 2020 at 9:20 AM | Reply

    You all downplayed it in December and early January why should we listen to you now when you have been wrong so often.

  9. Dr Phil: The covid-19 cases add up daily.. car accidents aren’t contagious… But you’re an unlicensed psychologist now ..

    • Zubin Gulati | April 18, 2020 at 2:32 PM | Reply

      @johndavesco same light? More like rummaging in darkness, cause dude check your parameter, you mention 1,000,000 lives lost over 20 years as car crash victims, whereas Ncovid 19 has already impacted 2,000,000 human lives with a CFR of over 4% in 4 months since being identified and declared a pandemic by WHO.Yes you’re right both car crashes and ncovid 19 deaths need to stop asap, but for that we need the insights, wisdom and #light or #superluminal #science that can enact, enable, budget and plan testing(free antibody, swab reagents, titrations, pcrt), treating ( free Remdesivir, hydroxychloroquinone, other antivirals) and prevent (free masks, soaps and biocontainments especially for frontline vulnerables) for all 9 billion humans on Earth. I know it sounds colossal, but if we can land on the moon, this too can be done, and fast. How do we get to that together?

    • @Zubin Gulati rummaging in darkness? Check my parameter? Had a tough time reading the rest of your fancy gibberish after that bullsht

    • @Zubin Gulati we gotta do 2 things at once. We don’t shut down the fuggin world until we perfect our Covid situation. We quarantine the most vulnerable and proceed. Ain’t rocket science. We have botched this entire thing

    • Car deaths add up yearly. Year after year after year into the millions over decades. Might as well be contagious!

    • @@johndavesco The relationship between CV and the global economy isn’t a “Versus”, it is as you point out an “AND” relationship. Both the economy AND Covid 19 have to be addressed at the same time. The priority between one versus the other at any point will impact how WE are in the future.

      Prioritizing economy over the Covid 19 crisis will ultimately hurt the economy by reducing the number of people who are able to work, not just from death but sick days and long term disability.

      While the data shows that there are high risk segments to the overall population, what it doesn’t show is risk associated with contracting the disease. Some people recover quickly, some apparently never know they have it. Survivors are reporting that it was the worst illness that they have ever had and that it took weeks to recover. Now during those weeks of recovery you can’t work. Truly essential industries like food and energy, prescription drugs and infrastructure maintenance are at great risk when even 10% or more of their employees can’t work.

      Food shortages, unstable electrical grid, can’t get meds, roads and bridges closed lead to bigger problems up to and including civil unrest.

      The actions being taken to limit contact and the spread of the disease are being effective. The patient load being put on the healthcare system is so far being managed. What we are doing is working.

      Some areas are suffering with tens of thousands of cases and some with a dozen. Abandoning or severely curtailing distancing guidelines will turn those areas with fewer cases into areas with greater cases. This is science not politics.

      Prioritizing Covid 19 response while maintaining the economy is essential at this point in time. The implications of doing otherwise will be more serious and may take a lot longer to recover from.

  10. James Sharpe | April 17, 2020 at 9:53 AM | Reply

    These people keep naming things we have vaccines/known treatments for or things that are personal responsibility.

    None of that applies to COVID-19.

    • Efrain Garcia | April 19, 2020 at 2:56 PM | Reply

      I want covid19 gone nobody want to stay home nobody likes lockdown and nobody likes to stay home they’d have to disorder staying home

    • @Tmp Name Yes there are vaccines for the common flu but there is not one for stupid. Science is so confusing when you can’t understand it. Choose your poison.

    • @Bill D – Great job reporting my comment and getting it removed proving you are too cucked to refute what I said. What, no good argument? Go ahead, link a conclusive medical journal citing a vaccine is possible for preventing COVID19 despite this coronavirus already mutated 30+ times

    • @Tmp Name not me that reported a foolish comment that you apparently made. It was probably removed because it was incredibly stupid.

    • @Bill D – Deflect, deflect, deflect. Oh, and immediate personal attacks. Never civil dialogue before resorting to insults. Typical liberal.

  11. The issue is we really have no idea how prevalent the virus is, I know in my area they are only testing people who are hospitalized and first responders, but it is apparent that the virus is much more prevalent than what is being reported. The issue with that is no one really knows the total of all cases, factoring in asymptomatic and very mild cases, I am going to go out on a limb and say that the testing protocol is the major issue here, instead of basing models off of suspected cases, we are using skewed information, more extreme cases than not, to base decisions off of. Why is it we never hear about suspected case counts? Also, where are the antibody tests? I don’t believe we will ever hear or see either, in that case, I can’t take what these “experts” and “pundits” say about anything without questioning the overall motive here.

    • Adrià Ceb Arn | April 18, 2020 at 10:14 AM | Reply

      And USA still not listening 3 weeks after spain and italy warned them, they keep not listening, all the questions you have about the virus we already know the answer, just research foreign media.

    • T. R. Campbell | April 18, 2020 at 10:15 AM | Reply

      We know there are locations in China in which people have been exposed to the coronavirus and have a tremendously high resistance to it. The province of Yunnan has several caves which are home to the Rhinolophus Affinis Bat, otherwise known as the horseshoe bat. This Bat carries many diseases which include the coronavirus. People living in this area have developed antibodies. We know this from a 2018 study by Shi Zheng Li. She also operates the biology lab a short distance from the Wuhan wet market.
      There was some great concern about this lab because the people working in the lab did not practice caution upon leaving. I recall a similar instance years ago at the CDC in the United States in which a person left with a mild virus contamination. She was quickly hosed down and there was no threat.
      Very likely the virus which is destroyed the economy is in most of the world was accidentally released.

    • T. R. Campbell | April 18, 2020 at 10:45 AM | Reply

      Adrià Ceb Arn With the sad state of journalism today we can’t rely much on ‘news’ accounts. The USA attempted to rely on authority sources which we now know were less than candid and told lies. We now have clear evidence that the USA did take a proactive stand when we learned the truth about the virus transmission.

    • The virus is Fake. Viruses are not contagious. The body produces a substance what they call virus that defends the body from toxins. Animal viruses are deadly to humans. The only way to get animal viruses is if they are injected. If vaccines are not mandatory then they cant get everybody infected. Mandatory vaccines are the plan. Viruses that produce diseases are the biggest scam of the century.

    • T. R. Campbell | April 18, 2020 at 2:43 PM | Reply

      Jose Mama LOL… that’s what do you Chinese and the WHO told us. Clearly you are unaware of the work being done by Shi Zheng Li with the people live in Yunnan Provence close the caves that favor the Rhinolophus Affinis that carry SARS and the Coronavirus.

  12. Петр Дубинин | April 17, 2020 at 10:47 AM | Reply

    Those that participate in politicizing a contagion are detached from reality

    • @Emily Xiong because the MSM is the true lie. Trump does his best to work around fake news. When will the world ever wake up to the FSM?

    • @Петр Дубинин They love to add to the hate pandemic. May end up adding more death.

    • HZB OcYpcWr'Ctwu Odzs | April 17, 2020 at 8:07 PM | Reply

      @Петр Дубинин This is made for you, the consumer. Nothing more

    • @Петр Дубинин And if they didn’t despite his lack of accountability to anything, I would call on them to do their job. I’m sure you would like for his incompetence and lack of transparency to go unnoticed. The typical Trump defense is “If people would only listen to Trump and nobody else, they would know he’s doing a great job.”

    • Петр Дубинин | April 27, 2020 at 1:14 PM | Reply

      @Emily Xiong lack of transparency 😂 u should make sure u return ur stimulus money since everything he does is wrong. You wouldn’t want to confuse others that you were supportive of a trump social welfare program.

  13. Shannon Smith | April 17, 2020 at 10:57 AM | Reply

    : “You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. -The Doctor

    • Fifth Wall Radio | April 17, 2020 at 8:09 PM | Reply

      Shannon Smith confirmation bias is what that’s about. It’s a human thing, with consciousness then you are more clean in logic/intuition

  14. blindeyecandy | April 17, 2020 at 11:11 AM | Reply

    Everything looks like “downplaying” to the hysterical. I work in New Orleans hospitals with respiratory patients everyday. This Ivy League guy is full of it.

    • mechanicalmanb | April 17, 2020 at 7:41 PM | Reply

      You see respiratory illness every day. Most people don’t see it every day. So when they start seeing it every day, they get scared. I’m not sure why your job has anything to do with that?

    • @mechanicalmanb How many respiratory illness patients have you seen today? More times than you upvoted your own comment? Or less?

    • mechanicalmanb | April 18, 2020 at 2:06 AM | Reply

      @Z Rhoads as many as times you were clever today.

    • Elizabeth Ayres | April 18, 2020 at 11:20 AM | Reply

      IV League, not Ivy League….

    • @TWAN Sure, Let’s blindly accept the 90% Media owned and controlled by the same Globalist UN W.H.O. EU. $Soro$ cabal and their ‘bought out’ experts.
      Never look at nor allow the many dozens of other Top Experts to speak of their expertise on this. Just give away your rights and Freedoms and be the 1st to stand in line for Billy’s miracle Vaccine. Good Sheep.

  15. Emperor Charlemagne | April 17, 2020 at 11:13 AM | Reply

    does MSNBC realize that there are tons of videos of MSNBC downplaying the virus in January and February?

  16. Their all saying this bc the have money and privilege they don’t concern the other working class

  17. We better not open back schools. They told me I wasn’t gonna have exams.

  18. Noooooooo Dr Phil has been corupted
    My whole existence is a lie

  19. Jonathan Lee | April 17, 2020 at 1:39 PM | Reply

    every public figure is showing their true color in this pandemic.

  20. Wasn’t it the Orange guy who originally stated that Coronavirus was a Democratic hoax? Some hoax huh? Let’s exhume those who have already died and ask them are they laughing yet.

    • Zorian no bobo, he said it was a democrat impeachment hoax. You’re one of those brainwashed puppies that hears it from fake news that twists his words and don’t bother to see for yourself

    • He said the Democrats were going to use it as their new hoax

      Like Russia, or Ukraine funding or every other thing they tried to impeach him for, and failed

    • fotlitbow fotlitbow | April 23, 2020 at 12:44 AM | Reply

      i dont think it was a hoax. i do think it was a lab altered virus by a Dr. Shi from China who studied in the state of North Carolina and published her ability to gain a function with the virus. She recieved ample push back that Barak Obama took notice of the negitive publicity and put a stop to the USA funding he had been giving her. She went back to China and the rest. is pretty clear if your looking

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