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With COVID-19 still surging and new economic data showing the economy has cratered, Trump floated the idea of delaying the 2020 election while also attacking voting by mail. Republicans were quick to dismiss delaying the November vote. Aired on 7/30/2020.
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  1. Oh absolutely not. I will risk my life to vote in person if that is what it takes.

  2. Trump is realizing when he loses the election, he faces criminal charges. Trump is a TRAITOR!

    • @Phylum; He clearly puts his personal welfare above that of the Nation, and he is breaking his oath, and that is only the very tip.

    • @Nephetiro; Why are you rambling so aimlessly and stupidly?

    • Phylum, to start, our intelligence agents found solid evidence about covert operations carried out by the Russians against us and he has done nothing.
      The list is long.
      He’s been scamming contractors for years. He has a track record, he’s extremely dishonest.

    • FIGHTING FOR GOODNESS | August 1, 2020 at 6:40 PM | Reply

      Here’s what really happened. These documentary are well presented.>>>🍕
      https://youtu.be/zaoO6tdDIR0
      https://youtu.be/kSkY1BPwuew
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    • <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html><https://www.realclearpolitics.com/stream/?topic=ballot_harvesting>  <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/stream/?topic=mail-in_ballots>
      28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections . By Mark Hemingway  SPECIAL NOTE: IF ANY OF these links are “broken” or “dead”, USE the titles at “duckduckgo” and defeat google and yt’s algorithms.
      Between 2012 and 2018, 28.3 million mail-in ballots remain unaccounted for, according to data from the federal Election Assistance Commission. The missing ballots amount to nearly one in five of all absentee ballots and ballots mailed to voters residing in states that do elections exclusively by mail.

      States and local authorities simply have no idea what happened to these ballots since they were mailed – and the figure of 28 million missing ballots is likely even higher because some areas in the country, notably Chicago, did not respond to the federal agency’s survey questions. This figure does not include ballots that were spoiled, undeliverable, or came back for any reason.

      Although there is no evidence that the millions of missing ballots were used fraudulently, the Public Interest Legal Foundation, which compiled the public data provided from the Election Assistance Commission, says that the sheer volume of them raises serious doubts about election security.

      These questions are particularly relevant as the COVID-19 pandemic is forcing states across the country to rapidly expand vote-by-mail operations in an election year. Democratic Sens. Amy Klobuchar and Ron Wyden have proposed the Natural Disaster and Emergency Ballot Act of 2020, a bill that would allow every eligible voter the opportunity to vote by mail, regardless of state laws governing mail-in ballots.

      A significant increase in mail-in voting this fall could greatly incentivize “ballot harvesting,” where third parties collect mail-in ballots on behalf of voters and deliver them to election officials. There’s long been a consensus that such a practice incentivizes fraud, and ballot harvesting is illegal in most of the country. Public debate over the issue has intensified in recent years after a GOP operative in North Carolina was indicted for crimes related to ballot harvesting in 2018.

      That same election cycle California legalized ballot harvesting, and observers say the practice played a key role in ousting several Republican congressmen in Orange County in 2018, a longstanding GOP stronghold in a state that has become very liberal in recent decades. 

      The fact that millions of unused mail-in ballots are floating around in every election cycle “is not a secret type data here – it’s sitting there on the Internet, and you’re paying for the server cost,” notes Logan Churchwell, a spokesman for PILF. “So what do people that really focus on the election process do about that? They go into ballot harvesting. If there’s so many ballots out there in the wind unaccounted for by election officials, surely some manpower could be dedicated to go bring them in. And that’s another part of the system where you have weaknesses and risk.”

      To illustrate the risk, Churchwell notes that in 2016 Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by garnering over 2.8 million more votes than Donald Trump. But nearly 6 million unaccounted mail-in ballots were never counted in 2016, more than twice her margin in the popular vote. The potential to affect elections by chasing down unused mail-in ballots and make sure they get counted – using methods that may or may not be legal – is great.

      There’s little doubt that as the number of mail-in ballots increases, so does fraud. A 2012 report in The New York Times noted that voter fraud involving mail-in ballots “is vastly more prevalent than the in-person voting fraud that has attracted far more attention, election administrators say. In Florida, absentee-ballot scandals seem to arrive like clockwork around election time.” According to a Wall Street Journal report on voter exploitation in Hispanic communities in Texas, mail-in ballots have “spawned a mini-industry of consultants who get out the absentee vote, sometimes using questionable techniques.” Poor, elderly, and minority communities are most likely to be preyed upon by so-called ballot “brokers.”

      Concerns about fraud in mail-in ballots were serious enough that a 2008 report produced by the CalTech/MIT Voting Technology Project recommended that states “restrict or abolish on-demand absentee voting in favor of in-person early voting.”

      “The convenience that on-demand absentees produces is bought at a significant cost to the real and perceived integrity of the voting process,” the report added. “On the face of it, early voting can provide nearly equal convenience with significantly greater controls against fraud and coercion.” Similarly, another academic study done in 2008 from Reed College flagged various concerns related to absentee voting and conceded there is a “great deal of literature on turnout” but when it comes to mail-in ballots there is “a dearth of research on campaign effects, election costs, ballot quality, and the risk of fraud.”

      Despite these concerns, five states – Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Utah, and Hawaii – now do all elections exclusively by mail. Supporters point to smooth elections in these states as proof that it works. But PILF obtained voter data from Oregon, the first state to adopt voting by mail exclusively, for the 2012 and 2018 elections and checked it against census data. Of the 7 million ballots the state sent out in those two elections, some 871,000 ballots are totally unaccounted for.

      Losing only one of eight ballots, as opposed to the national average of one in five, may be the result of Oregon having a more accurate listing of voters’ addresses than many other states, but that’s still a very high percentage of missing ballots, and Oregon would not reveal its data for the 2014 and 2016 elections for reasons the state would not disclose.

      Regardless, U.S. Census data confirms that 11% of Americans move every year, and voters on the lower end of the economic scale are especially transient. Without implementing some extensive, and likely problematic, government surveillance program, there’s no way for election administrators to reliably get ballots to tens of millions of Americans every election cycle without a large percentage of ballots going to the wrong address. This problem is compounded by states that mail ballots automatically. (The author of this piece is from Oregon, where ballots with his name on them were sent to his parents’ address for years after he graduated from college and moved out of state — despite repeated contacts with the county clerk telling them he had moved.)

      The inherent problems of mail-in voting are being widely ignored, however. Use of mail-in ballots more than doubled from 24.9 million in 2004 to 57.2 million in 2016, and around 40% of U.S. votes are now done by mail. Along with this dramatic increase there have been virtually no new safeguards, scrutiny, or additional research on the risks of vote by mail. If the current pandemic is going to force the issue during a presidential election, proponents of voting by mail may have to address obvious risks that come with proposing that more than 200 million ballots be mailed out this fall.

      “I really think the only reason vote-by-mail problems are not getting more attention on a regular basis, is that it’s kind of an embarrassing problem and people just aren’t paying attention,” says Churchwell. “These numbers of missing ballots demonstrate large voter list maintenance failures and security gaps within the broader mail voting process.”

  3. Timothy Phillips | July 31, 2020 at 12:59 AM | Reply

    Such a spoiled little boy.

  4. The real fraud is trump. He won’t even deserve to be called ex-president.

  5. Even Nixon wasn’t this bad after his impeachment.

  6. Stephanie Ledogar | July 31, 2020 at 7:49 AM | Reply

    Trump can’t give respect to John Lewis even at his funeral, because Trump has no respect to give.

    • Coppertone Goddess | August 1, 2020 at 8:20 PM | Reply

      @Ken S sadly Ken. I have been in healthcare for a very long time. Seen a lot but this is different. Trump dropped the ball. Hope u and yours stay well.

    • @Coppertone Goddess thank you for your well wishes and for the great work that I’m sure you do in healthcare. You stay healthy as well.

    • @T C don’t know what you mean by that? Cult members allow their thoughts to be controlled and must conform to the group. Sorry, but that is not conservatives. We are allowed to have free thought. It’s the left that must conform and stay in line or be shamed, ridiculed and destroyed.

    • @Philip Berggren Fascists are on the left. Look up the definition.

    • @Bruhfromaisle4 no idea what you are trying to say. Your comment is gibberish.

  7. So when did he start caring about our lives this is a new one LOL what a load of crap

  8. He is only trying to sew doubt ahead of a huge loss coming his way…facts don’t matter to this clown.

  9. I’ll quote Trump himself: “Throw him out. Get ‘em out of here. Don’t be gentle about it. Get ‘em out!” Trump and GOP are going to get traumatized this election season. The worst are going to jail.

    • Ruth A Castelan | July 31, 2020 at 1:25 PM | Reply

      Don’t forget when he called an nfl player a son of a b#ch.

    • William Shatner | July 31, 2020 at 2:17 PM | Reply

      @Steve Gillham
      Is there a way , within the YouTube Android application , to make settings to ignore completely very new spammer bot accounts?
      Also
      To ignore completely specific IP address like the Russians ?
      Or
      A button I can push to remove known interference known spammers, known Bots ?

    • Steve Gillham | July 31, 2020 at 2:31 PM | Reply

      @William Shatner unfortunately not, plus a lot of these newly created accounts are not from Russia, Russia plays it part but these people who create these accounts could be based anywhere in the world.
      Even America alt-right Trolls do it just to make their numbers seem more main stream.
      Russia may start some of the fake narrative of Facebook, Twitter, etc, then use amplifier accounts to push the fake narrative further, then it’s picked up by normal Users as real stories.
      There are a few companies who monitor for these accounts and close them down after a few months, but it’s too easy for them to create new accounts. And start all over again.

    • William Shatner | July 31, 2020 at 4:21 PM | Reply

      @Steve Gillham thanks

    • New Age Rise | August 1, 2020 at 8:04 PM | Reply

      @Jesse the rioters look more like Antifa than actual BLM people.And who started this George Soros the one governor’s are listening to let criminals out.But u avoided ur President saying put people back to work.And wouldn’t have been a need for stimulus or unemployment.

  10. No Soy Hater No Soy Hater | July 31, 2020 at 8:02 AM | Reply

    If the average US citizen had a little bit of comon sense, things like these wouldn’t happen.

  11. The most “rigged election in history” was the 2016 election, donnie.

  12. The only person who is going to try and rig this election is Trump himself…along with his mate Putin!!!! Everybody need to cast a vote this November if we dont want America to turn into an autocratic state…Trump is a wannable dictator and needs to be urgently removed!!!

    • Carol Register | August 1, 2020 at 10:48 AM | Reply

      You’re so correct. We need this nightmare to end now. Not November. Anyway! And if supporters don’t like what I wrote, oh well. Go cry to your orange pig. I won’t respond. Total waste of time.

    • Marie Wheeler | August 1, 2020 at 3:04 PM | Reply

      STAY FOCUSED ON REMOVING THIS VIRUS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.DON’T LET POLL NUMBERS DETERMINE YOUR ACTIONS. IF TRUMP IS DOWN BY 40 IN THE POLLS YOU MUST STILL VOTE. WE MUST HEAL THIS COUNTRY AND WE CAN DO IT.

    • Carol Register | August 1, 2020 at 3:13 PM | Reply

      @Marie Wheeler Yes. It’s the only way.

    • Barney The Addict | August 1, 2020 at 4:31 PM | Reply

      Just a reminder: Biden is as bad as Trump

    • Darth Vestius | August 1, 2020 at 5:19 PM | Reply

      @Barney The Addict
      Just a reminder. You are a Russian troll

  13. Stephen Webb | July 31, 2020 at 8:09 AM | Reply

    GOOD. Trump should be ashamed to even consider that – after all, a president should not be shirking the foundations of the nation he is supposed to be running.

  14. Chris Bellen | July 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM | Reply

    Another moment from Obama that shows why this man is truly loved by most people.

  15. OnWingsOfHope | July 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM | Reply

    “I don’t want to see a crooked election” coming from a President who only won, because of help from Putin. RICH indeed! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

  16. There won’t be any former Presidents at Bunker Boy’s funeral.

    And that tweet alone is an impeachable offense.

  17. President Obama was and is always presidential, smart, and considerate. What have in the White House now is a racist, liar, cry baby

    • 《Joaquin Jr 》 | August 1, 2020 at 9:15 AM | Reply

      barb lee Barr is just trump private lawyer. We all know that’s not going to happen because he hasn’t done anything wrong

    • William Wilson | August 1, 2020 at 12:23 PM | Reply

      Barbara Lee watches fox to much, no facts

    • Barney The Addict | August 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM | Reply

      Obama’s a liar too

    • Herbert Simon | August 1, 2020 at 5:54 PM | Reply

      @Barney The Addict ….what did he lie about?

    • <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html><https://www.realclearpolitics.com/stream/?topic=ballot_harvesting>  <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/stream/?topic=mail-in_ballots>
      28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections . By Mark Hemingway  SPECIAL NOTE: IF ANY OF these links are “broken” or “dead”, USE the titles at “duckduckgo” and defeat google and yt’s algorithms.
      Between 2012 and 2018, 28.3 million mail-in ballots remain unaccounted for, according to data from the federal Election Assistance Commission. The missing ballots amount to nearly one in five of all absentee ballots and ballots mailed to voters residing in states that do elections exclusively by mail.

      States and local authorities simply have no idea what happened to these ballots since they were mailed – and the figure of 28 million missing ballots is likely even higher because some areas in the country, notably Chicago, did not respond to the federal agency’s survey questions. This figure does not include ballots that were spoiled, undeliverable, or came back for any reason.

      Although there is no evidence that the millions of missing ballots were used fraudulently, the Public Interest Legal Foundation, which compiled the public data provided from the Election Assistance Commission, says that the sheer volume of them raises serious doubts about election security.

      These questions are particularly relevant as the COVID-19 pandemic is forcing states across the country to rapidly expand vote-by-mail operations in an election year. Democratic Sens. Amy Klobuchar and Ron Wyden have proposed the Natural Disaster and Emergency Ballot Act of 2020, a bill that would allow every eligible voter the opportunity to vote by mail, regardless of state laws governing mail-in ballots.

      A significant increase in mail-in voting this fall could greatly incentivize “ballot harvesting,” where third parties collect mail-in ballots on behalf of voters and deliver them to election officials. There’s long been a consensus that such a practice incentivizes fraud, and ballot harvesting is illegal in most of the country. Public debate over the issue has intensified in recent years after a GOP operative in North Carolina was indicted for crimes related to ballot harvesting in 2018.

      That same election cycle California legalized ballot harvesting, and observers say the practice played a key role in ousting several Republican congressmen in Orange County in 2018, a longstanding GOP stronghold in a state that has become very liberal in recent decades. 

      The fact that millions of unused mail-in ballots are floating around in every election cycle “is not a secret type data here – it’s sitting there on the Internet, and you’re paying for the server cost,” notes Logan Churchwell, a spokesman for PILF. “So what do people that really focus on the election process do about that? They go into ballot harvesting. If there’s so many ballots out there in the wind unaccounted for by election officials, surely some manpower could be dedicated to go bring them in. And that’s another part of the system where you have weaknesses and risk.”

      To illustrate the risk, Churchwell notes that in 2016 Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by garnering over 2.8 million more votes than Donald Trump. But nearly 6 million unaccounted mail-in ballots were never counted in 2016, more than twice her margin in the popular vote. The potential to affect elections by chasing down unused mail-in ballots and make sure they get counted – using methods that may or may not be legal – is great.

      There’s little doubt that as the number of mail-in ballots increases, so does fraud. A 2012 report in The New York Times noted that voter fraud involving mail-in ballots “is vastly more prevalent than the in-person voting fraud that has attracted far more attention, election administrators say. In Florida, absentee-ballot scandals seem to arrive like clockwork around election time.” According to a Wall Street Journal report on voter exploitation in Hispanic communities in Texas, mail-in ballots have “spawned a mini-industry of consultants who get out the absentee vote, sometimes using questionable techniques.” Poor, elderly, and minority communities are most likely to be preyed upon by so-called ballot “brokers.”

      Concerns about fraud in mail-in ballots were serious enough that a 2008 report produced by the CalTech/MIT Voting Technology Project recommended that states “restrict or abolish on-demand absentee voting in favor of in-person early voting.”

      “The convenience that on-demand absentees produces is bought at a significant cost to the real and perceived integrity of the voting process,” the report added. “On the face of it, early voting can provide nearly equal convenience with significantly greater controls against fraud and coercion.” Similarly, another academic study done in 2008 from Reed College flagged various concerns related to absentee voting and conceded there is a “great deal of literature on turnout” but when it comes to mail-in ballots there is “a dearth of research on campaign effects, election costs, ballot quality, and the risk of fraud.”

      Despite these concerns, five states – Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Utah, and Hawaii – now do all elections exclusively by mail. Supporters point to smooth elections in these states as proof that it works. But PILF obtained voter data from Oregon, the first state to adopt voting by mail exclusively, for the 2012 and 2018 elections and checked it against census data. Of the 7 million ballots the state sent out in those two elections, some 871,000 ballots are totally unaccounted for.

      Losing only one of eight ballots, as opposed to the national average of one in five, may be the result of Oregon having a more accurate listing of voters’ addresses than many other states, but that’s still a very high percentage of missing ballots, and Oregon would not reveal its data for the 2014 and 2016 elections for reasons the state would not disclose.

      Regardless, U.S. Census data confirms that 11% of Americans move every year, and voters on the lower end of the economic scale are especially transient. Without implementing some extensive, and likely problematic, government surveillance program, there’s no way for election administrators to reliably get ballots to tens of millions of Americans every election cycle without a large percentage of ballots going to the wrong address. This problem is compounded by states that mail ballots automatically. (The author of this piece is from Oregon, where ballots with his name on them were sent to his parents’ address for years after he graduated from college and moved out of state — despite repeated contacts with the county clerk telling them he had moved.)

      The inherent problems of mail-in voting are being widely ignored, however. Use of mail-in ballots more than doubled from 24.9 million in 2004 to 57.2 million in 2016, and around 40% of U.S. votes are now done by mail. Along with this dramatic increase there have been virtually no new safeguards, scrutiny, or additional research on the risks of vote by mail. If the current pandemic is going to force the issue during a presidential election, proponents of voting by mail may have to address obvious risks that come with proposing that more than 200 million ballots be mailed out this fall.

      “I really think the only reason vote-by-mail problems are not getting more attention on a regular basis, is that it’s kind of an embarrassing problem and people just aren’t paying attention,” says Churchwell. “These numbers of missing ballots demonstrate large voter list maintenance failures and security gaps within the broader mail voting process.”

  18. Trump : The most inaccurate and fraudulent President in history.

  19. Michael Whitted | July 31, 2020 at 9:05 AM | Reply

    Moscow Mitch, Leningrad Lindsey, etc. helped create that monster.

  20. When Donald Trump says “they say” he’s talking about the voices he hears inside of his head. Donald Gollum Trump.

    • Basil Marasco | July 31, 2020 at 3:15 PM | Reply

      He’s referring to the stuff he heard over the backyard fence, or the things a little birdie told him or that he heard through the grapevine, or the things his advisers told him because they’re the only things he wants to hear, or the gossip Ivanka picked up from the coffee klatsch, or the word on the street, or the nonsense that Sean Scammity spews every day, or the rants of his GOP enablers in the House … or any combination of those solid sources.

    • Jennifer Radach | July 31, 2020 at 4:34 PM | Reply

      Right on john

    • Lesley Watson | July 31, 2020 at 6:18 PM | Reply

      john m Haha, so true, it’s so hard to keep up with the stupidity.

    • Frank Sullivan | August 1, 2020 at 12:08 PM | Reply

      No,Its like you and the rest of these poor souls

    • @Frank Sullivan You make no sense. You too must be talking to the voices your head.

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