SE Cupp: Out of ideas, Republicans choose chaos 1

SE Cupp: Out of ideas, Republicans choose chaos

 

CNN's SE Cupp discusses Republicans lawmakers openly obstructing and dismantling functional government by refusing to work with Democrats and "weak Republicans." #CNN #News

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  1. But a group of Republicans had a meeting before Obama got into office, where they laid out the plan of obstructing him so he wouldn’t get anything done. I think you protest too much, SE.

    1. First, they were obstructing his policies; not President Obama.

      Secondly, they obstructed his policies via Legal Means.

      Unlike the people who Illegally Spied on U.S. citizens for the crime of running for president.
      What about Paying for the fake story of a hooker peeing on where Obama once slept?

      What about protesters being Paid to disrupt certain hearings involving Kavanagh? (Yes, I Do realize not all were paid, but the loudest and aggressive protesters Were.)

  2. That recording of Chip Roy essentially confirmed what we already know. Mitch McConnell can be quoted as saying that 100% of his focus is on stopping the Biden administration.

    You know, after complaining about a lack of bipartisanship

    1. @Joe Mama You know tax brackets exist, right? Taxes can be raised for the 1% without raising them for the 99%.

    2. @GPlumbob yes it can but the 99 are gonna get it back in higher prices in whatever they sell.

  3. Why does the GOP base in states like Kentucky vote against their interests? If you’re rich you’re probably voting Republican. But why in poor states? The GOP want to cut your food stamps. Are they going to eat their bullets?

    1. @Reason That’s not what Dems do.How is repugs gutting your social security and Medicare in your best interest?

    2. @Jim River Of course it’s who runs the cities. The local government is the first line of defense. Governors don’t have say over local matters

    3. @Jim River Why do we need gun reform when most shooting come from illegal guns? It’s not the law abiding citizens who are shooting up the cities

    4. @Reason Maybe if they saw sense and voted for their Own best interest, they could live in houses rather than trailers. I mean this, literally. Why hasn’t decent housing been provided…

  4. A quick reminder: Chip roy is the guy who singlehandedly blocked a $19.1B disaster relief package to his own state of texas in 2019

    1. *’The Welfare State Discourages Work.’*

      *- The NATIONAL BUREAU of ECONOMIC RESEARCH*

    2. UN F@CKING BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    3. @Vicky P You may want to be careful with comparisons. Hitler enacted extreme gun control. Hitler enacted extreme speech control. Hitler banned books. Hitler blamed all of the problems in his country on a single race of people. So, which party do those positions remind you of?

    4. @Cptlsthipi incorrect. America became a semi-socialist country in the 1930s. Since then, the more government involves itsself in things, the worse things get. For example heqlthcare used to be affordable until Medicare expansion, and college used to be affordable until federal student loans.

    1. @Joe Mama I hope that’s a gist because there have never been term limits for senators nor congressman only a constitutional amendment limiting the president on terms and years

    2. *Ironic that the only reason the Economy is doing so well is,*

      *Trump’s TAX CUTS & JOBS ACT*

    3. *’The Welfare State Discourages Work.’*

      *- The NATIONAL BUREAU of ECONOMIC RESEARCH*

  5. I do like this video but the last time Republicans tried to bring new ideas to the table was probably in the 50’s

    1. I like Biden’s idea at the debates “ Children should listen to phonograph records at night to get smart” a real genius.

    2. @Jackpot Da Don they literally are and just like voting or abortion rights its designed to harms black and poor people more. That’s why urban areas in blue states have the most gun control.

      You can’t arrest people to solve the drug epidemic but the solution to gun violence is to put law abiding gun owners in jail? Hypocrite.

    3. @Bob Gorno Lincoln didn’t give a dam about slavery and said as much. Check your history.

  6. But maybe also a wakeup call to dems. Stop working with the GOP´s – and primary all dems who think they can work with GOP´s.

  7. All the villains of movies choose to sow Chaos. And then what happens to the villains, folks?

    1. What? Let me guess. You’re pro abortion, but you think people that aren’t sure of the vaccine, don’t have a right to choose. You presiuos lil hypocrite.

  8. “When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent.”
    Isaac Asimov

    1. @Glo Girl

      Trump isn’t a convicted anything. He’s guilty of nothing. That is why he’s a free man.

    2. @Keith Johnson – Shelby GT500 *….you aren’t sharing the truth. Repugnant Republicons are repelled by the truth. They are afraid of it. They run from it. They feverishly undermine the truth. They are only too aware of who they are catering to. They clearly understand their constitutes.*

    3. @USA Dominates Unfortunately the correlation, especially vis a vis 2020 and the flip in the suburbs of Phoenix, Minneapolis, and Philly as examples, were areas with upper middle to high income areas with bachelor’s, masters, and PhD’s being rather common. The more education you have, the less likely you will be tempted to vote for an amoral demagogue. Unless you’re dismissing the entire notion of Neoliberalism(or even elitism for that matter!) altogether.

  9. Oh. Senator Sherrod Brown posted the destruction of his office from 1/6. Give him credit. Don’t forget America.

  10. In Canada, where there are 5 parties in Parliament at the moment, *everybody* and their cousin wants the middle ground for themselves, since that’s where the most voters sit. As a result, rather than deliberately causing chaos, Opposition parties pressure the government of the day to shape initiatives *their* way, and then try to take credit for the policy/initiative during election campaigns, or whenever media is listening, touting how they “got things done” for citizens.

    That said, I think this illustrates the difference between the American governance system and a Westminster system, such as Canada has. Although there can be regularly scheduled elections every 4 years, “non-confidence” votes can cause the collapse of a government at any time prior to a scheduled election. If the party in power has a minority government – an increasingly common phenomenon – then it MUST either persuade or cooperate with at least *one* of the Opposition parties, in order to pass bills. (The Senate is largely “independent”, though many senators have their own personal allegiances and preferences.) It would seem that, because the American party *NOT* in power has no similar leverage (i.e., play along or there might be an election called) to nudge policy in their direction, between elections, hence cannot lay claim to co-authorship very often (if at all) unless they are willing to cooperate, they will view their only viable strategy *as* obstruction.

    I don’t say this as a nyah-nyah-we’re-better-than-YOU-are diss. It is QUITE possible for Republicans and Democrats to cooperate on policy and bills, in both houses. But they have to WANT to. And in the absence of that motivation, there seem to be too many incentives built into the American system that, in the current climate, make chaos the more attractive and “productive” option.

    And that is not to place Westminster systems above all others. Israel has a version of that as well, but its governments are formed from *so* many parties with *such* disparate priorities that they have a history of bad decisions that seem to be made solely to hold the government together. We’ve had snap elections in Canada, but nothing like the 4 consecutive elections Israel has recently had to have when fragile coalitions fell apart.

    1. @Mark Feland S’alright. In retrospect, I should have said “a difference” rather than “the difference” between American and Westminster systems, but I doubt that was the basis of Harry’s critique.

      As for people moving to Canada, lots of folks said they would move here when Trump got elected, and precious few did. I won’t criticize them. People have a right to love where they grew up, but also a right to be disappointed in it when it seems to stray.

    2. All parties in Canada especially all have the same ideas just a diff. way of expressing them to the sheep.

    3. @1st responder Why so much disdain for voters? Do you expect them to read poli-sci, economics, and policy journals, and every pundit analysis, all day long, so as to be as informed as possible? Hell, the people they voted in don’t have time to do that themselves. People have lives to live, jobs to do, family to care for. I would just hope they/we don’t fall for B.S., simply because it tells a nice story.

  11. They also leave out the part where you’re a republican, making excuses for the grim reaper.

  12. I seem to recall republicans saying what’s the harm in humoring him for a while?? Well now we know

    1. @Keith Jackson – Trump caused the Global Pandemic that started in China? that’s Killed 4 million worldwide, and Lost 255 million Jobs?

      What idiot believes that made up BS?

    2. This is called “what comes around goes around”. Both parties do this. This is normal politics. Don’t act like the Democrats didn’t do this the last 4 years. Then the Republicans did this same thing the 8 years before that…and so on and so on. I think the last time both parties worked together was either the balanced budgets in the mid 90s or for about 15 minutes after 9/11.

    3. @Allex G I am also wondering when CNN will ask Stacey Abrams when she will concede the 2018 Georgia governor’s race.

    4. @Keith Jackson Thank yout. Excellent comment. My youngest son currently serving in the USN. Norfolk . He just recently promoted to Sr. Chief Petty Officer.

  13. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

  14. “We have met the enemy, and he is us!” ~ Walt Kelly
    “The secret of freedom is educating the people, whereas the secret of tyranny is keeping them ignorant.” ~ Robespierre
    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities” ~ Voltaire
    “There can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet.” ~Abraham Lincoln
    “The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” ~ Charles Bukowski
    “Everybody has a right to their opinion, but nobody has a right to be wrong in their facts.” ~ Bernard Baruch, quoted in 1946 AP article.
    “It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.”
    ~ Mark Twain
    “It is certain, in any case, that ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have.” ~ James A. Baldwin
    “When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent.” ~ Isaac Asimov
    “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon’s but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” ~ Ulysses S. Grant, 1875
    “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” ~ Typically misattributed to Sinclair Lewis, the original source of this quote is unknown, but likely derived from labor activist Eugene V. Debs 1917 quote, “Every robber or oppressor in history has wrapped himself in a cloak of patriotism or religion, or both.”

    _Before World War II, Charles Lindbergh typified American heroism with his daring flights, including the first solo transatlantic flight, and his celebration of new technology. He parlayed his fame and heroic stature into a leading role in the America First movement, which opposed America’s entrance into the war against Nazi Germany. In 1939, in an essay entitled “Aviation, Geography, and Race,” published in that most American of journals, Reader’s Digest, Lindbergh embraced something close to Nazism for America:_

    _”It is time to turn from our quarrels and to build our White ramparts again. This alliance with foreign races means nothing but death to us. It is our turn to guard our heritage from Mongol and Persian and Moor, before we become engulfed in a limitless foreign sea.”_

    _The America First movement was the public face of pro-fascist sentiment in the United States at that time. In the twenties and thirties, many Americans shared Lindbergh’s views against immigration, especially by non-Europeans. The Immigration Act of 1924 strictly limited immigration into the country, and it was specifically intended to restrict the immigration of both nonwhites and Jews._
    ~ _How Fascism Works, The Politics of Us and Them_ by Jason Stanley

    Once again, nationalism, aka fascism, has risen its ugly head in America, in European nations, and in some other countries around the world. The fight of good people against ignorance, the fears that sprout from it, the hate which then blossoms, culminating in the bitter toxic fruit of evil, senseless brutalities and deaths, is a constant, never-ending battle we fear, but it is a battle from which we must never shrink.

    In this era, the likes of Toxic Trump and Marginalized Greene have become the face of the new “America First” fascist movement built up over the last four decades by the GOP, Reich-wing plutocrats, demagogues, and media. But, as with Lindbergh, the American people gradually come to recognize their dysfunctional poison and reject it. Most Americans understand, accept, and appreciate that the enduring strength of America is that we are a nation of immigrants and multiculturalism, a “melting pot” where the best ideas rise to the top, and superficial differences are meaningless in the face of our common humanity and purpose. Most Americans want competent leaders who speak truth, who strive to unite, who are not corrupt, who care about them. So, it should come as no surprise that President Biden is already receiving high marks from the public, while Toxic Trump never managed to rise above even a 50% approval rating. To conclude where begun, the following quotes are submitted for further reflection:

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” ~ George Santayana
    “History doesn’t repeat itself. But it does rhyme. ~ Mark Twain
    “That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.” ~ Aldous Huxley
    “If men could learn from history, what lessons it might teach us! But passion and party blind our eyes, and the light which experience gives us is a lantern on the stern which shines only on the waves behind.” ~ Samuel Taylor Coleridge

    (Reference also Father Charles E. Coughlin and Henry Ford in regards to the first America First movement.)

    “Call this civic barbarism. Instead of promoting the values of responsible citizenship, Trump, Republican leadership, and their media enablers have elevated and blessed the very worst among us. They are making many Americans less suited for self-government and more dangerous to their neighbors. And they are doing so for the reason some of the Founders most feared: To lead the mob against true democracy.”
    ~ Michael Gerson, from _’Trumpism is American Fascism’_

    Malcolm Nance: We Are In A Neo-Fascist Era In American Politics
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_RxUAe2zeM

    Political Analyst Tells Joy Reid: Forget Trumpism, IT’s Neo-Fascism
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IgNp84JA4A

  15. obstruction is easier than diligence, all it requires is dumb weight. ideas are associated with blue sky and light.

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