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During a Wednesday congressional hearing on election irregularities, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., claimed without proof the 2020 presidential election 'in many ways was stolen.' Joe Scarborough and the Morning Joe panel push back on Paul's claims. Aired on 12/17/2020.
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90 Comments on "Sen. Paul Claims Without Evidence ‘In Many Ways’ Election Was Stolen | Morning Joe | MSNBC"

  1. Everblue Freediving | December 17, 2020 at 8:37 AM | Reply

    I hope all of these GOP liars are charged w sedition. Disgusting.

    • God bless Donald J Trump!. Stop the steal! 4 more years!!

    • @Everblue Freediving Are you sniffing glue?

    • Everblue Freediving | December 17, 2020 at 10:57 PM | Reply

      @alwaysopen no. What’s your excuse? Let me guess, you are a racist, Obama-hating, Trump worshipping, science and common sense ignoring, magafool.

    • Alan H Marzullo | December 17, 2020 at 11:41 PM | Reply

      @ccreativ Ghost The burden is on trump’s team to prove the allegations of wide spread voter fraud, and they have failed to do so over 50 times in court. They don’t even claim fraud in the courtroom, because they don’t want to be disbarred!

    • @Alan H Marzullo you do not what you are speaking

      They are not dismisisng because it doesn’t have merit and proof but because of THREATENS and blackmailing, they are afraid of BLM protests

      Haven’t you heard of this news

      A campaigner for Loefller was killed in a car accident, whi was Brian’s soon to be son in law

      Soon after he ordered signature match

      And weeks later the investigator who on the accident was reported COMMITTED SUICIDE

      When he was on the verge on evidence etc

      So all these things, and all those allegations

      And you still think there is no voter fraud

      Thats Stupid

  2. Some Republican Senators are purely disgusting. Here are two of the most self-interested examples of such.

  3. Laughter On Water | December 17, 2020 at 8:40 AM | Reply

    Rand Paul is a seditious liar. Boost that man from his seat.

    • Laughter On Water | December 17, 2020 at 1:55 PM | Reply

      @Mark you keep quoting Trump propaganda. Epoch Times is owned and operated by Falung Gong, a whackadoo religious cult who is supporting Trump with lies and BS for unknown reasons. It’s time to come out of the rabbit hole and reassess, Dude.

    • Laughter On Water | December 17, 2020 at 2:50 PM | Reply

      @herbert fields When you say “You poor thing,” you may as well be using the Southern “bless your heart” and all the negative connotations implied. Right now we’re both saying “No, I’m not wrong, you’re wrong, no, I’m not wrong, you’re wrong.” Meh. Show me one instance of mass voter fraud. Any time one of Trump’s minions has gone to a judge, the lawyer has had to stop short of saying it was a voter fraud case because there is no evidence. Rand Paul is a dishonorable man because he promulgates the falsehoods the Trump has spewed. Put him in front of a court of law and make those claims, and he would think twice. Trump and Paul don’t give a fig about you and would step on you as soon as look down on you. Why you’re defending them is meaningless in the end. Trump lost fair and square. Rand Paul has continued to spread Trump’s lies about mass voter fraud. Hence he is a liar. This isn’t baring false witness, dude. It’s stating facts.

    • Laughter On Water | December 17, 2020 at 6:36 PM | Reply

      ​@herbert fields Okay, I’ve read it. All of these items were addressed when Trump’s lawyers went to court. In _all_ cases, the courts threw out the cases for lack of evidence. Just because someone posts something doesn’t make it true. Just repeating something over and over doesn’t make it true. It’s not enough merely to read what’s in front of you. You have to look at multiple resources and cross-reference the validity of those sources. You have to search for the original source of the evidence. Nothing that ever came out of Steve Bannon’s mouth has been true. The man is also a serial liar. Merely words together in report format doesn’t make it true. _Everything_ in that pdf is garbage. It wouldn’t pass muster for a dissertation, much less peer review. This document is not even as reliable as the nutrition facts on the back of a cereal box. *_Wake up Herbert._* Trump lied to you. Paul lied for Trump to you. Why are you defending them? Why is it important to you that others believe this filthy racist lie? Even as we converse, Georgia legislators are looking for ways to keep people of color from voting. Georgia voters of color came out to vote like they never have before because they’re tired, hungry, and have nothing left to lose. I see it in my own backyard. People waited in line for hours because legislators removed key polling stations in counties with high black populations. This is nothing but voter suppression. The Republican party is melting down in front of our eyes. They have lost their way from the party of Lincoln. Today, you cannot call yourself a Christian and be a Republican. There was no mass voter fraud. Democrats didn’t whine when Trump won with the same electoral college vote even when Hillary Clinton had three million popular votes more than Trump. Dems didn’t try to wishsplain why their person should be president, or try to put in “alternative” electors to confuse voters. The real problems? Let me list them for you.

      It’s time to abolish the electoral college. This is born out of an age when slave-owners wanted an edge, so they bargained the worth of their slaves in the three-fifths compromise to get a leg up on the other states legislatively. In other words, they knew slaves were people. They just wanted their voting power while still keeping them as a commodity. Outrageous. The electoral college is just evil. In the last two elections, it fomented nothing but distrust in our electoral system. It’s got to go.

      It’s time to abolish Plurality voting and adopt something like Ranked Choice voting for every state. Ranked choice allows for instance runoffs and ensures that even if your favorite didn’t win, you won’t likely be unhappy if your second choice wins. It ensures the majority of voters will be satisfied.

      It’s time for school to be free for all levels. When it costs more to go to college than it does to pay rent, voters will never be able to afford a house. We’re seeing it now in the next generation. Have you noticed how many people are living in cars and vans Herbert? You think they don’t want homes?
      They will never be able to afford homes because our system prevents it. We are a debtor nation with children in debt before they can even have a family, a house, a living wage. This is not the way to run a country.

      Abolish PACs and SuperPACs. Period. No corporation should have that much power over legislators. People with money need to stop buying politicians.

      Abolish golden parachutes offered by large-money donors for anyone before, during or after their tenure as legislators, extending to and including family members.

      Limit the total number of years for serving as a federal legislator to twelve years total, representative and senator alike. Legislators can serve any combination of terms as senator or representative for twelve years but no more.

      Make it illegal for a president to get away with illegal stuff during his term. Make it illegal for a president to pardon himself, friends or family.

      Make healthcare universal. This pandemic has shown us why. When a small percentage of us suffer, we all suffer. Universal healthcare is good for business.

      Make it so people can earn a living wage. The current minimum wage hasn’t changed much in forty years. As a kid, my father said rent or mortgage should be about a quarter of what you make. That doesn’t work in this day and age. I defy you to find anyone living in America who pays less than a third of what they make for rent. The poorer you are, the worse it is. It’s expensive to be poor. I defy you to live on minimum wage by yourself in an apartment. That’s why poor people can’t ever get out of the trap of being poor. It must be illegal to pay someone less than a living wage.

      Rand is a liar. Trump is a liar. The vote was fair, honorable and valid.

  4. Of course he’s spewing sh*t without evidence. That’s the GOP way.

    • William Crowley | December 17, 2020 at 1:44 PM | Reply

      @Brandon Smith I have seen no credible evidence to have an opinion on the topic

    • Mark that’s comical,that’s just so hilarious.

    • @Brandon Smith if it wasn’t for covid the country wouldn’t be in a bad shape. Besides covid and trump instigating division the country wouldn’t be that bad.

    • William Crowley | December 17, 2020 at 1:50 PM | Reply

      @Brandon Smith that is your opinion on why it is so bad. For me, a former Republican and retired army combat vet, it is the support of a lying, traitorous, incompetent, conman that is what is wrong with this country.

    • Brandon Smith show me the he beef, I mean evidence, aka proof, I’ll tell you one thing I know for sure,we are paying for those tariffs,the country is paying for it,and if I need to I can prove it, but if you know anything about tariffs,you would know I’m right. The problem I have with you people is
      if you don’t know what you are talking about, you make sh*t up, conspiracy theories,spinning,whatever you can do to muddy the waters of the conversation, you are not part of the solution ,you are part of the problem. My problem with repugnuts is there cold to the middle class, for me it is a class war, the rich and the little guy. And I’ll say dummy don did everything he said he would do, but I’ll be dam if he did anything for the middle class, and I am lower middle class, I’m carpenter, I have steel worker friends,concrete workers, laborers plumbers and electricians he has done nothing for, only for his 1or 2 % of this country, I pretty much know from these dummy do rallies,most of you are probably middle to lower middle class too and how you can expect all those rich people in government to look out for you ,well you’re pretty naïve. Now go ahead call me a communist,when actually I’m a hard working 73 year old man still in construction,paying taxes like everyone else,but that piece of sh*t for a president, I’ll take it . Hope that wasn’t to much information for you.

  5. “”The Republican party has become anti AMERICA “”

  6. They’re doing it because there are never any consequences.

    • @C Thomas Well said.

    • @C Thomas I agree, but then the GOP will cry opposition prosecution. You just know they are waiting to yell that from the rooftops, and then seize the chance for anything when they get the chance.
      Biden is in a very difficult spot.
      Republicans always, always get away with things. They obstruct, then cry the Democrats did nothing so they should be elected. And when they abuse power – Nixon got off free, Reagan got off free, and ‘W’ got off free. I am sick of it.

    • @covfefe You’re right. I’m sick of it too. Unfortunately it will take far too long to change. But change will come eventually.

    • Thats wat burns me up J

    • @DM Tea And Hillary walked.

  7. I won’t even call him a Senator or Dr. This guy has no credibility and is laughable

    • Caribbean Girl | December 17, 2020 at 4:24 PM | Reply

      judie, the very same guy trump insulted on stage during the 2016 debate

    • He is only there because of who his daddy was a lot like George W. Bush now the second worst President in my lifetime of 63 years

    • Andrew Simpson | December 17, 2020 at 5:29 PM | Reply

      Isn’t he a Dentist?? Dr is just what you get from finishing the degree. 🤣🤣😂

    • @errgsd how about over 340,000 deaths on the president’s watch? Republicans, Democrats, independents, Christians, non Christians,married ,single , white, brown, and black all murder their babies. No party tells anyone to murder their babies.

    • @Frank Bowden they don’t care about abortion anymore, their sperm doesn’t work anymore, it’s like spoiled yogurt

  8. Rand should prove his claims or be charged with sedition.

  9. Diane Torgersen | December 17, 2020 at 11:23 AM | Reply

    The only “stealing” going on is the Republican Party trying to overthrow democracy.

  10. SuperSpreader X | December 17, 2020 at 11:23 AM | Reply

    The courts never looked at the facts like Moscow Mitch never allow witnesses or evidence 🤔?

  11. Rand Paul and Ron Johnson are guilty of Sedition. They must be charged with TREASON and removed from office.

  12. Would this be called “Treason”?
    All of these people should be held accountable for their actions! Who can put a stop to this? It just keeps going and going 👎😡

  13. Big Blue Blanket | December 17, 2020 at 11:44 AM | Reply

    Oh! How we need a Harry Truman liberal to take care of these confederate fascists.

  14. I don’t know how these people live with themselves. I guess power and money keep them warm at night.

  15. “What does [Rand Paul] get out of being a liar?” Been asking myself the same question.

  16. If this election was “stolen”, then so was every last one since 1776.

  17. Chris christy should b urging his “friend” to stop being such a baby!
    Whoops wrong video

  18. One of the biggest fraud in USA is Rand Paul himself.

    • Pino Antenucci | December 17, 2020 at 2:06 PM | Reply

      So I’m guessing now since it’s all fraud the election that means that other Republicans that won shouldn’t have won. What a bunch of snowflakes.

    • Just an FYI to Rand Paul. Those “Non-Residents” he refers to in Nevada are either college students living out of state or people that recently moved (within 30 days). In either case by both federal or state law it is legal for these people to vote in Nevada as long as they don’t vote elsewhere. Ron Johnson talking about many Americans not trusting the elections… Well yeah!!! Especially when you have fake hearings like this spreading lies.

  19. How did the “dr” get elected? Maybe he stole his election?

  20. Short version: “Sen. Paul said something stupid”; this is not “news”.

    • Half the country believes him. Either your part of the solution or your part of the problem…….unless your just a “democracy freeloader”. Enjoying the benefits but not participating is as deadbeat as it comes. Even the anti education, anti facts, anti science trumpers are participating. They are only pawns in this game but it is not their fault the education system in our country failed them.

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