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St. Paul, Minn. Mayor Melvin Carter discusses his city's demonstrations over the death of George Floyd, attending Floyd's memorial service in Minneapolis, the importance of who is hired to be a police officer and being the son of a police officer. Aired on 06/05/2020.
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63 Comments on "St. Paul Mayor: It Starts With Who We Hire As Officers | Morning Joe | MSNBC"

  1. Cops who get fired by one department for brutality or other crimes should be barred for LIFE from any form of law enforcement. I wouldn’t even let them be a mall cop. Instead, a cop who gets fired for killing a kid in one town just moves one zip code over and gets rehired. Screw that.

    • @Jaguar God Of course you don’t, because you’re a sociopath. But it’s still BS.

    • @Emily Moss Is that your analytical diagnosis doctor? How much do I owe you? Oh, wait, GoFundMe like all of your handout hero friends. lol🤣

    • ​@Jaguar Godhmm… Are your lame attempts at insults your way of coping with being so sick in the head? Or is it just another consequence of your extreme stupidity?

    • @Emily Moss If my words are registering as insults then they’d be anything but lame. Mission accomplished. Recede into your safe-space until it’s time to loot cheesecake and Louis Vuitton in the name of a violent felon/drug addict. Enjoy.

    • @Jaguar God Hahahaha, No, your words are not registering as insults. Just _lame attempts_ at insults. Your kind have no sense of humor, so your best attempts will always fall flat. It’s like Trump’s unimaginative and astonishingly unfunny nicknames. “Or as I call her, ‘Nancy…'” lol
      Funny and clever are simply not in the right’s wheelhouse. Hate and racism are.

  2. Real Talk76 | June 5, 2020 at 1:25 PM | Reply

    Officers are taught to be cautious to the point of paranoia when interacting with the public. In doing so, they push their authority past acceptable thresholds for the average citizen.

    • Bags 4 Days | June 5, 2020 at 9:02 PM | Reply

      @Geno J did you just assume my gender?

    • Bags 4 Days | June 5, 2020 at 9:06 PM | Reply

      @Geno J lemme guess what you are, an entitled old black woman

    • @Jan Tillmn and therein lies YOUR ignorance. There will be times where force is necessary but you want to equate every stop to a 6’7″ football player?? Besides, my point was concerning encounters with the “average” citizen. Are you really that desperate to justify excessive force? Maybe you’d change your tune if there was a knee on *your* neck because of a potential misdemeanor.

    • James McClain | June 5, 2020 at 10:29 PM | Reply

      Become a cop and see if you start to be a little paranoid. They see some messed up stuff and deal with a lot of dumb people and always must run towards the danger while you run away. Yes some police officers dont deserve a badge but you can’t judge them all because of others actions.

    • @James McClain I know its a tough job and anyone can have a bad day but those bad cops are ruining peoples lives and even killing people. Some of them should have never been given a badge but others get desensitized over time. Police officers have to get better at policing themselves, they know who the bad apples are.

  3. Christian V | June 5, 2020 at 1:28 PM | Reply

    It also starts with maybe firing the guy who had 18 files reported on him

    • @Nunya Bidnis Funny most citizens appreciate their police and respect them. Of course, if you’re out causing trouble, you probably have a different opinion.

    • @lee Roberts Nope. Anarchist Libertarian Boogie boys and they’re in league w BLM

    • lee Roberts | June 5, 2020 at 8:54 PM | Reply

      Jan Tillmn nah man that’s not possible they all have different ideological beliefs sing that antifa and Libertarians an anarchist are in League with each other is like saying Christians Muslims and Jews are in love in League with each other

    • @lee Roberts I didn’t say Antifa. I said anarchist Libertarian boogaloo. Same ideology on a spectrum .Boogaloos want outright civil war and work with BLM to accomplish it.

    • Christian V
      Just because he has 18 files doesn’t mean he was guilty of any of them. Investigations stay in your personnel jacket regardless of the outcome or reason for complaint. You would have to inspect each to find if there is a problem trend. Evidently there was not.

  4. I pray for trust between community and law enforcement. Amen.

  5. Ban the police union or get out of the way for a leader that will, reality check.

    • ban govt shills who post propoganda all day on social media…

    • Dark Stormy | June 5, 2020 at 4:23 PM | Reply

      I would’nt hold your breath waiting for Democrats to advocate disbanding a huge union, Funny how these incidents always seem to happen in Democrat citys….

    • Dark Stormy 💯

    • william brennan | June 5, 2020 at 5:55 PM | Reply

      @Dark Stormy not really, cities are democratic

    • @Dark Stormy Ian Smith, john D and Dark Stormy: Quit blaming the Unions for any and every problem that comes up. The Unions don’t make policies. They don’t control the hiring of cops. It’s pure republican Union bashing to cover up any issue caused by someone else. You guys are spouting Republican propaganda.

  6. It is not ONLY who you hire, it is how you train and manage those people

    • @D B But it is also the INTEGRITY of the Individual.
      You have to have the moral fortitude to “Do the Right thing” IN EVERYTHING YOU DO.

      If I am a Janitor, you had better believe; I am going to clean with the utmost pride and integrity in that job because that is the person who I was raised and to the HIGHEST standards possible.

      People lack that basic human value. The force needs to do a better job recruiting the right kinds of officers.
      But then, corruption sets in within the culture and the power demons set in and all the good has now become fueled by privilege and corruption.

      We already have enough of that Sheeit in our White House. It has to go💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩😠😠😠😠

    • Coronavirus Hoax | June 5, 2020 at 6:57 PM | Reply

      Yes they need to be trained to shoot looters and rioters that are paid by Soros!

    • Truth. 13-19 weeks is not enough. That’s a crazy low amount of training involved with a position that yields a huge amount of power over citizens. Couple that with a few states not requiring them to even be of drinking age.

    • @Sine Quanon Officers don’t have the power to rid departments of bad officers. That is a head supervisor/HR role.

    • @AD1VET If they don’t have the power then GIVE them the power…this isn’t brain surgery. WHATEVER is preventing good cops from removing bad cops needs to be fixed…an anonymous call-in line, a peer review board…anything that works. Bad cops cannot be permitted to exist. In addition to making the job more dangerous and the community less trusting and cooperative, bad cops COST cities millions of dollars. If they won’t do it for moral and ethical reasons, maybe their wallets are enough motivation….take lawsuit settlements out of their pension fund. Make cops pay for their own liability insurance out of pocket and if their premiums get too high, they gotta go. Mandate psychological exams every six months.
      If the unions get in the way, eliminate them. The problems CAN be solved – it just takes the proper political motivation.

  7. Wali Shabazz | June 5, 2020 at 2:09 PM | Reply

    It starts with whose doing the hiring

  8. MSNBC: lets make this a ‘ wace issue!’

  9. Sterling Daniels | June 5, 2020 at 4:15 PM | Reply

    “How do you change their attitudes?” You don’t. You weed out people with those attitudes.

    • The job itself creates those attitudes. Cops only deal with the worst people and people at their worst. I can only imagine what that does to a human psychologically.

    • retarded nig ger moderator | June 5, 2020 at 6:50 PM | Reply

      @Aaron Rathmann is it possible for blacks to be bigoted?

    • Aaron Rathmann | June 5, 2020 at 7:04 PM | Reply

      @boredom2go I agree certain things about the hiring process and the actual way the job operates need to be changed like more community out reach, mandatory counseling with a contracted firm, and making cops and sheriffs more aware of their impact on communities and people as law enforcers.

    • Mark Benson | June 5, 2020 at 7:11 PM | Reply

      @boredom2go true!!!

    • Mark Benson | June 5, 2020 at 7:13 PM | Reply

      @Aaron Rathmann answer the question Aaron!

  10. No, it starts with holding officers accountable for their actions. Regardless of who you hire.

  11. Patti Jesinoski | June 5, 2020 at 5:09 PM | Reply

    So why didn’t AG Ellison do anything for almost 3 years since he was elected MN AG, if it has been so bad for so long?

  12. Wraithninja1 | June 5, 2020 at 5:14 PM | Reply

    We don’t pay police officers enough, and you get what you pay for. -Chris Rock

    • It’s not about the pay. You don’t want people becoming police officers for the money. That won’t end well. It’s about managing the mental health of the officers. These are just people. They aren’t robots. If you keep throwing them into dangerous situations and into contact with the worst human beings all the time, they’ll be consumed by it.

      They need to handle these incidents in phased teams. If there’s an aggressive resistance to arrest, the officers on the scene will only be tasked with getting the suspect neutralized. A second team would be brought on site to transition to suspect welfare. These officers would not be amped up on adrenaline from the arrest and will completely relieve the first team.

    • TXejas19 TXejas19 | June 5, 2020 at 7:25 PM | Reply

      @T Boman on the fence because I’ve often seen offices deal with naked drugged people and thought “they aren’t being paid enough” but when they get more money, they get militarized. Even with allocations considered more money for individual police won’t stop racist cops

    • fullmetal25 | June 5, 2020 at 7:27 PM | Reply

      @T Boman facts he have house here in Florida. And Windermere isnt a cheap place to live at.

    • Charlotte Merten | June 5, 2020 at 7:34 PM | Reply

      T Boman…….And that’s not enough for someone that puts their life on the line every time they report for their shift

    • @Charlotte Merten that’s absolutely enough. Especially with the way they act.

  13. BubblePuppy | June 5, 2020 at 5:20 PM | Reply

    If you decide there is a mythical group conspiracy, then it makes sense that the only remedy is some mythical solution.

  14. It is the Mayors orders that the police have to take. PERIOD! The Mayor is #1 responsible. Sick of the criminals passing the buck.

  15. Democrats have been in the mayors office in St. Paul since 1952!! This guy isn’t helping.

    • Nathan Napier | June 5, 2020 at 7:18 PM | Reply

      Why does the party matter? It’s a man not a Democrat, this is a human rights issue not a political issue.

    • Nathan Napier it matters because in general, the Democratic Party asks more from government. Giving police more control and asking them to do much more than they should be.

  16. Actually it starts with who you hire as Mayor.

  17. Ricky Spanish | June 5, 2020 at 6:43 PM | Reply

    All the looted Targets still have all their condoms and Father’s Day cards.

  18. “The police departments announces they’re going to take sensitivity training, and add two more new requirements, Intelligence and Decency.”
    ¬George Carlin.

  19. Robert Goble | June 5, 2020 at 7:26 PM | Reply

    I think we need to stand up for the VAST MAJORITY of fundamentally decent law enforcement officers. Thank you for your service.

  20. John Coleman | June 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM | Reply

    When the leader of the country fans racism, he must go before the country can heal.

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