States try to find balance of reopening within Covid-19 curve

CNN's John King breaks down several states planning to reopen businesses in the coming week and how some states have "flattened the curve" more than others with coronavirus cases.

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  1. In my hometown Philadelphia in 1918, city officials decided to open the city early in the midst of the Spanish Flu epidemic with a morale boosting parade because of World War I. 200,000 people showed up! In 72 hours every hospital bed in the city was occupied and the city ended up with 4500 deaths within a few days. I hear Trump still wants a 4th of July parade! What is that proverb? Those who cannot learn from the past are condemned to repeat it?

    1. Feed me lobster I’ve been monitoring the CDC websites almost daily. It’s sad anyone is dying but 99% of us will survive this whether we get sick or not. Huddling up in our houses isn’t going to stop this.

    2. @Walt Schmidt You forgot the 0.1% of everyone else. That’s one in a thousand of ordinary healthy people. Also some people, believe it or not, have family they love.

    3. @Trudy Colborne And there are also doctors reporting that a lot of people dying from influenza are having the record state covid 19. Something is going on. You can either look into ALL the information or only what you choose to hear..i don’t really care either way.

    4. Trudy Colborne so you think 3 million people will die? This has been around for 3 months and we’ve had 52K die so far. It’s going to take years before 3 million people would die. By then most of us would build immunity or we will have a vaccine or other ways to treat to prevent a lot of death. Look at Sweden, he’ll look at Nebraska. We don’t need to shut everything down. We can distance ourselves and restrict ourselves without government intervention. Most of us could be living our lives more normally and it wouldn’t overwhelm our health systems or put so many millions at risk like you’re touting. There is evidence that this is more widespread than known, driving the death rate far lower than what we are seeing.

  2. Until testing is available I’m not screwing with my family’s life’s, not my kids, nor my elderly parents. I will not allow my grandma to become a dead trump policy statistic…

    1. @catalinacurio I guess that was my point of asking. Everyone is so crazy about testing but unfortunately, testing our entire population is unrealistic. Of course testing is great and more should be done but we cannot rely on contract tracing and isolation to get us out of this. We are not a country like China where tracking your every move and other forced interventions are acceptable even in a pandemic. I’m not saying this to be mean but I feel like you will be waiting until the vaccine if that is how you feel. I don’t think that they will come up with a therapy, before a vaccine, that will be some sort of game changer for everyone. I do think that they should focus heavily on treatments that could be used prophylactically or early on in the infection, but I’m not sure if any reliable and widespread treatment will become available before the vaccine.

    2. @Leonard Zhou Contract tracing and isolation are not necessarily a viable solution for all instances. Riding subways in NY is a perfect example. It would be impossible to contact all of those that may have come in contact with someone. I agree that more focus should be on finding effective treatments for use during the earlier phase of this virus to avoid the potential complications that usually occur during week 2.

    3. @DriveInFreak No, my actual argument is for people that think that somehow testing is going to move this country of 230 million people forward, are being a little naive. Of course the more testing and isolation of those with symptoms and that test positive will go a long way in stopping the spread, but it seems like only a vaccine or an effective treatment will bring the risk low enough for those that are afraid to venture out into life.

    4. @Jill Featherman Fair enough. Good point.
      I’m thinking the more information the better. It’s hard to know what to do, or how to react without enough data. I think that it’s more than likely a safe bet that there’s far more cases than we realize, but I could be wrong. It’s hard to know for sure without the data.

  3. Only in Georgia will they have people dying from covid-19 with a tattoo reading “I beat the coronavirus”.

    1. @Walt Schmidt That’s your future, not mine ( bit of Lou Reed for you )
      I live in England old bean, in a nice little house in the country.
      I’m out and about with my dog, eating better than ever.
      Thanks for your reply, always good to see how others are coping.
      Baaah-dly in your case.

  4. Meanwhile each in Australia and New Zealand, we are asking whether we should open up a bit now that we have 10 or so new cases a day, or hold fast until the disease is eliminated locally.

    1. @OriginalPiMan But what if Trump’s goal is Eugenics? Then his game plan is spot on. It’s the only logical answer to his actions. I think everyone’s too quick to assume that he’s just ‘stupid’. He gets to blame China as well, and creates worldwide anti-Chinese sentiment. A great launchpad for the next move, which is likely to destroy China as an economic power. Remember what happened after 9/11? Everyone knew Iraq didn’t have WDMs, but the anti-Arab sentiment meant no one stopped the US from going in.

    2. @Lil’ Red GTO the USA kicked New Zealand out of the ANZUS security agreement when we would let your dirty nukes in our country back in 1985. We do not “rely” on the USA for anything. As for ‘welfare state, yes we are a social capitalist democracy. We look after people. You should try it.

    3. @VS Berlina
      He’s mishandled it too badly even for that. There is no logic to musing at a press briefing that people should inject disinfectant, or at least look into it as an option. When it is his supporters who are most likely to listen to his bad ideas, I can’t see any reason to believe he is anything but incompetent.
      And Americans and allies followed Bush into Afghanistan and Iraq, significantly because his approval rating was so high in the wake of 9/11. Nations rally around their leaders in times of greatest crises, but Trump has long since squandered his poll bump.

    1. It’s all about the fall, FAUX hair, Fake tan aUX , false hood, doesn’t have a clue, thinks we are stupid, but we are still here, watching, waiting, and we are going to finish the job. Oh by the way 44 predicted exactly the same scenario December 7, 2014. Hope is real but dope just say nope.

    1. @jefe 45acp “like idiots who want to give all their rights away and give government more control.”
      Oh, so like trying to tell We The People what we can and cannot do to and with our own bodies, trying to tell educators what they can and cannot teach (including attempting to force outright bullshit into science books and classes), attempting to build a modern version of The Berlin Wall, attempting to tell We The People who we can and cannot marry (as if the government has any business in marriage at all), trying to force the ways and “morality” of a fictional book despite The First Amendment/attempting to turn The Land Of The Free into a theocratic shithole….the list goes on and on and on?

    2. @littleportrait Oh, so you’re a christard. That figures.
      Laughing at someone that’s doing the equivalent of licking the windows on the short bus isn’t anger.

    3. @DriveInFreak 🙋WHEN YOU REFUSE TO RESEARCH TRUMP AND THE E.O AGAINST CHILD TRAFFICKING YOU ARE AS GUILTY AS THE PEDOS THEMSELVES.🙋CAREFUL. I WILL ADD YOU TO JOHN DURHAM’S PROSECUTION LIST WITH EPSTEIN WEINSTEIN AND THE REST OF YOUR DEM VOTERS AND PARTY🙋WWG1WGA THE STORM IS COMING 🙋

    4. Where Money Trump was speaking to civil rights protestors, not the freaking governor.
      Btw: isn’t Colorado doing same thing as Georgia(tattoo parlors and salons…)? Oh, he’s a democrat.

  5. The one tool We have against this virus is being SMART. The virus has the Rest on his favor.
    playing STUPID and we are in its hands.

    1. @Troy Cartwright – what is moronic about his comparison. You want to shut the country down for some pseudo-pandemic every time 50K people are killed?

      People know the gig is up that is why you will see increasing protests. You will also see democrats obliterated in November as this scandal unfolds as shown in the video I mention below.

      We have a virus sooooo “deadly” it cant even kill a growing list of 100+ year olds that survived it with NO REAL TREATMENT1

      It is very obvious that if it werent for 4 democratic states which account for 2/3rds of the US total the actual covid-19 death rate could be 20K.

      sources:
      worldometers.info

      youtube video:

      Tracy Cooke -Important Revelations

    2. Charles Payne it’s only dangerous if your in your 80’s and above, pretty much everyone who dies from it would of died from the flu because they are elderly but nobody reports on the flu because like I said, it only really effects very old or people with health issues. 60,000 Americans dead in 2018 from the flu…. not one word from the MSM and 250,000 people dead world wide lol how come we weren’t getting daily updates from the media ? 😂😂😂 this is a hoax

  6. ♥️🌹♥️Umm-maybe i’m off – but movie theaters – risking health/life by going into a darkened room to watch a movie? A tattoo-a needle💙
    Just wondering💙🌏💙🌎

    1. WELL there is this new movie coming out where it’s theme song is “DANGER ZONE”!! Which gets people to say, “I WENT TO THE DANGER ZONE, DANGER ZONE! TAKE ME RIGHT INtTOOOO THE DANGER ZOOONE!!”
      LOL Now the movie theater will be the “DANGER ZONE”! LOL

    2. Bernie Cruz 🌹yuk- i had already read how germy movie seats are – the place where the drink sit, covered in germs(bacteria?)- yukky But I talked myself into going back. Now this – jeeeez. How ‘bout bringing back drive-in-theaters🌹🌳🌹🌳🌹🌳🐝

    1. Admiral Crunch: Ahhh, yes. Everyone who disagrees with you or questions you must be a lazy, worthless leech. Classy move. Really shows you have integrity.

      Guess you haven’t been alive long enough to have heard why assumptions often backfire.

    2. @kegsofvomitspit Sure you do, all progressives are doing just fine, thats why they all cry about the cost of health insurance, student loans, rent, food…….
      Unless your home is paid for, the bank owns it.
      And they will be coming to foreclose within 6 mos.
      The evil bankers win again.

  7. “Hi, my name is Julie and I’ll be your server. My recommendation today is, don’t touch the salt shaker or ketchup bottle.”

    1. So are the usually understaffed restaurant health inspectors out and about or still working from home?

    2. @Bernie Cruz you can’t get infected just by touching the virus. The virus can only enter the body through mucus membranes (eyes, mouth, nose etc)

    1. Trust me, that’s going to roll back real soon.
      Republican plans on reopening were made at least a month ago, haven’t changed, and are still based on data from Communist China that we we’re still using at the time.

      They can reopen, but any State that does, (or never did close) will be forced to lockdown likely halfway through May.

    1. @Ralph Boyd WRONG. Just people too stupid to do their own research..the facts are this virus kills @ .05 1.0% that’s it and that’s all.

    2. @Ralph Boyd Why not let them go out and mingle but every individual but first sign a legal document giving permission to medical staff to refuse treatment if they catch Covid-19? After all, it’s just like the flu and most recover!

      This keeps the idiots happy while preventing them from becoming a burden to the medical services and a risk to their staff. The country will ultimately benefit from their deaths anyway.

  8. “Consistensy is not this presedent’s strong suit.”
    Now that is not an understatement and even wrong.
    He was very consistent making a chaos, very consistent ignoring advice, very consistent humiliating reporters, very constistently abusing daily briefings etc etc etc

    1. Good point. if people can’t get passed a simple spelling error to hear a solid argument, they weren’t open-minded enough to listen anyway.

    1. @Rick James it would be amazing. I can just fake cough standing in a line and watch them scatter in fear.

    2. @cj p – tell me about it. There is an agenda to protect the evil in this country and those who speak against it.

    3. @Ralph Boyd – from killing more babies and maintaining your racist views.

      Too bad God is purging this country of the democratic evil and you will see it.

      You will see death in 3’s come to the democrats and the media will be baffled to why it isn’t happening to the republicans. I’m not asking you to believe this NOW but when it happens you will know what is happening.

      Pelosi should be given the death sentence when this all is revealed. It will be common knowledge eventually..

      youtube:
      Tracy Cooke – Important Revelations

    1. @TheShreester NO, FREEDOM OF CHOICE THEY VOLUNTEERD.OK HERES MY QUESTION TO YOU II BELIEVE MILLIONS OUT THERE BEEN EXSPOSED NO SYMPTOMS IMMUNED CARRIERS UNKNOWNLY TRANSMITTING OR JUST IMMUNED.HOW LONG.THIS MAY BE THE BIGGER PICTURE.JUST A GUESS HERE YOUR THOUGHTS?

  9. Not many people staying home in Florida many beaches are open and I see no social distancing just like any other day they are packed

    1. Noles image how many deaths they will be reporting in a week folks use your common sense ,it is not over .

    2. @Willie Andrews
      That’s right. The number of infected people just recently hit its maximum and new cases are still popping up. If we open up the economy, that would be similar to “Our descent has slowed considerably. We can now remove our parachutes.”

    3. Then stay inside forever and you scared betas have nothing to worry about.
      So how many of those Florida beach goers get Corona?

  10. Corona-chan: “Hi, Governer Kemp! We’re going to have SO MUCH FUN TOGETHER in the months to come!”

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