This Election Will Not End Until All The Votes Are Counted: PA A.G. Shapiro | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania attorney general, makes clear his feelings on Donald Trump's stated intention to challenge some Pennsylvania absentee ballots. Aired on 11/02/2020.
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This Election Will Not End Until All The Votes Are Counted: PA A.G. Shapiro | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

55 comments

  1. *”We won with poorly educated, I love the poorly educated!”*
                      – Trump, 2016

    *Not today.*

    1. @Rebellc why don’t you concentrate on going through puberty before posting again. In a few years you can graduate to 6th grade humor by then.

  2. I live in Middle Georgia where they shoot at Biden signs. We still have brave people in some sections all of this small town showing Biden signs. I’m 72 years old and a Vietnam veteran and I wouldn’t dare have a Biden sign on my pickup truck. I would have to get out my concealed carry 9 mm. Please God let Biden win.

    I’m voting tomorrow and I’m carrying my 9 mm in the armrest of my pickup truck. I don’t plan to show it unless somebody’s trying to keep me from voting using intimidation. I’m an old-time conservative and believe in conservative values. I’m voting for Biden to help save our democracy. Refer to the Lincoln Project.

    1. ​@Diane O’Donovan Jesus forgives all sins if the person is truly sorry and repents. If Hypocrisy is an unforgivable sin, then we are all doomed. All of us, in one aspect of life or another have been hypocritical in the past and there are very simple examples of that I can provide. Generalizing on anything is bad practice-“Trump followers do this…” Trump followers/supporters like what he’s doing with the country. Period. We feel he puts America first, unlike politicians who’s number one goal is to “win” versus do what is best for the country. This is on both sides and the reason Trump blew out Cruz, Kasich and Rubio. We saw Trump is not a politician and he has gotten a lot of things done.

    2. @Diane O’Donovan Well, I remember Black Militants in 2016 standing by polls holding bats and intimidating voters. And yes, a gun is needed when you see what has happened in the past with Antifa and BLM assaulting people for holding the American Flag and wearing a Maga Hat. Who is really inciting the violence here?

    3. ​@Data Scientist When you use words like ‘antifa’ and ‘BLM’ as if the first was some formal organisation, and as if the latter was like a version of the Proud Boys, I know that what I’m hearing is Trump-Fox propaganda. I’m a conventional Quaker and I’m certainly anti-fascist (which is all antifa means). I have also joined the world-wide demonstrations against police brutality and discrimination against minorities – especially when based on something as stupid as the amount of melanin in a person’s skin. Yet – as a Quaker – I am a member of no society save the Society of Friends. Turning demonstrations against police violence into an imaginary equivalent to America’s far-right militia, or imagining that everyone who opposes fascism must belong to something called ‘antifa’ has been part of the Trump-Fox fear campaign. And if you think it’s ok that white armed guys have been intimidating minorities at the polls for *decades* then why should you object to members of minorities doing the same? It’s a genuine question – why should you mind? Of course, in my own country, anyone who turned up to polling booths carrying a weapon would be taken away by the police. We have no truck with imitation armies and wanna-be non-cops. Another benefit of our own democratic traditions.

    4. @Diane O’Donovan so because there are White Nationalists out there doing damage, that justifies what Antifa and BLM pretenders? ( The true BLM are not rioters/criminals). As far as propaghanda on Antifa, what other way can you characterize them? I see them on video with Antifa signs and they are assualting people? Finally, you are quite critical of the police. Maybe you can take a step back for a second and try to understand their perspective. They risk their lives and they have families too. Reform is already underway but it’ll take some time. We spoke about accountability earlier. Great example. If you don’t want to risk losing your life 1. Don’t commit crimes 2. comply with police, don’t fight them or run. Those that have died have some accountability in the position they put themselves in.

    5. @Data Scientist I have nothing against police. I don’t like to see police armed in the street because my country sees guns as things people need only if their country is being attacked and they join the military. Because we have good gun-regulations I needn’t worry about children at school, or people at work or people of colour being shot by chronically-panicking police. But then I don’t live in America. (ps have you seen a video on youtube describing the contents of an American police training manual? – it went up recently on the site run by Beau of the fifth column.

    1. @Trixie
      Do you mean because they heel Trump accountable for his actions, you think they are bad ?
      The first 2 years Trump was President, the Republican had the House, the Senate and the President…and the last 2, the Democrats only had the House…The Senate and the President was on the Republican side. So if you have anything to complain about, maybe it’s time you look to the Republicans. Just saying. They had the most power. But yeah, let’s blame the Democrats for that…come on…even you know you don’t have a leg to stand on…and by the way, I will hold any President accountable for his actions. How about you do the same…

  3. It’s Nov 3rd the day that will define who we are !!!
    Still time to register online to vote 🗳
    Let it do it !
    don’t wait till 2024 do it today !.

  4. That anyone had to say “the election isn’t over till all votes are counted” is shocking. That’s how far Don the con-vict has dragged us down.

    1. I guess you don’t remember the Bush/Al Gore 2000 election fiasco. Gore fought the outcome for months before he conceded. Florida and it’s “Chads”….that was a debacle.

    2. @Data Scientist I remember the two problems with those ballots. The ballot itself was not well arranged, but it had been designed, ironically enough, by a Democrat. But the big point is, careful reading by the voters would have obviated that problem.
      Most aggravating is that dangling chads, clearly the result of an attempt to punch those blocks, should not have been regarded as countable. That is a technicality that defies logic, by ignoring intent, but ultimately, the voters who had those ballots are to blame for carelessness. Any time I used a punch ballot, I punched each selection twice, and physically ensured all chads were completely excised. That is part of the citizen’s responsibility, to ensure that his ballot is correct, and if not, to ask for another, watch the first negated, and do the replacement correctly. The most important lesson is, never expect a good result if you are careless with an important personal task.
      This time, I surely hope we get rid of the albatross and start repairing this Nation. I have to commend Bush, for refusing to vote for Trump.

    3. What exactly makes him the convict? Please say Russia collusion and you’ll out yourself as yet another mindless liberal. Fact is Trump is a game day player. The supporters show up for him. Liberals don’t have real supporters. They’re just people who hate Trump, folks who’ve been conned by entertainment TV such as this very program

    4. No election is over until all the votes are counted. That’s why it’s an election. Before all the votes are counted it’s a projection, not actually a result.

    5. @Vict0r Mas0n You mean people who vote for the Democratic party’s platform? Maybe some realised the country was in trouble when the Republican party didn’t even bother presenting the people with a platform of issues. Basically their platform is – you’d had four years’ taste of dictatorship; now how about it? And quite a lot of Americans said ‘yes please’. You’ve also had a taste of what happens if one party suggests it will imprison its political opponents on fake charges.. and almost half the American population seems just fine with that, too. Because they have voted for more Trump. I hope, for all of you, that Biden wins. You can’t imagine just how destructive Mr. Trump and McConnell will be if he’s re=elected.

    1. Absolutely, they all need to be counted. It’s just difficult to trust that these political hacks won’t manufacture votes after they’ve seen their cadidate will lose.

    2. @Kavitha Balkrishna You and your classmates are all morons who know nothing about how this election will impact the rest of the world and especially China.

  5. It is becoming very obvious that we need to smoke out those in whatever political party are behind denying fundamental voter rights. We need their names and the level of their involvment. They need them to be cast away from their positions where they can make such decisions or no party will ever be respected. The myriad of press stories refer only to a party that did this or that without a face or name to go with it. You must help make them personally accountable. Name names, show the pictures, pull them out of the shadows. Show the faces of those that deny such basic rights as the vote. An informed electorate can bring about change in staffing. The possibility of being exposed, shames as well and may prevent or embarrass away such thoughts.

    1. Exactly. Manufacting votes (philidelphia) after all the voters votes have already been counted is a travesty.

    2. @Matthew Dobbs “The world misses President Obama” What delusional planet do you live on??? Obama administration expanded the patriot act, continued and expanded overseas conflicts which left many nations in shambles. You moron!

    3. Nothing to say about Democratic states changing the rules of the election at 0 hour? Ridiculous, just another example of projection

  6. This should be happening in every state right across the country every vote should be counted no matter how long it takes , this is the people’s choice not the government or the courts , This is how a democracy works any vote not counted is a violation of people’s rights .

  7. If the SC involves itself in shutting down the counting of legitimate votes they will not be immune from the wrath of the people. We won’t allow another 2000. Let the votes be counted.

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