This Isn’t A Red State Vs. Blue State Issue, Cautions Doctor | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Dr. Michael Osterholm, the Director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, says the country still has a long road ahead in the fight against the coronavirus, and he urges Americans to not see it as a blue vs. red state issue. Aired on 4/13/2020.
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    1. @David Clark ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS!!!!!!!

    2. @David Clark ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS, ASSCLOWNS!!!!!!!

    3. On Feb. 28th Trump did a rally in South Carolina where he was saying that the Dems are trying to politicize this by saying he isn’t doing a good job, and that is their new hoax, that’s the context, he never said the virus was a hoax. Feb. 28th this is after he stopped the flights from China, later on in this same campaign he says we need to take this virus seriously. Today we discovered that China lied about the details and 5 million infected people left Wuhan China in early January, so at the time of this campaign on the 28th the virus was already here. On the 29th Pelosi will go to Chinatown and tell everyone that they should go too, it’s OK, Fauci will also announce that it’s not a threat to this country. Pelosi telling everyone to go to Chinatown was devastating to us since people will go just to spite Trump, on Feb. 28th Trump is the only one who is trying to keep us safe.

    1. @George Hackett Let me dumb this down for you, I’m China and you’re the US, I have a virus that I hide and keep a secret, I let 5 million people leave my country where the virus originated with the virus, the virus starts getting out of hand in China and I come clean, I tell you I have this virus and I’m doing everything I can to contain it, but I don’t tell you that 5 million infected already left, so it’s already in your country, then in your country you have Pelosi, a real nut job and a democratic party leader telling other nut jobs to come out and party with her, that everything is OK, this after you blocked flights from China, so you’re going to blame yourself?

    2. @you457wx Yeah, I did see a video yesterday.
      It did bother me, but I am also a logical person and back in Feb. it wasn’t clear that this was going to be a Pandemic.
      The evidence was there, but the MORON-IN-CHIEF and his crew of idiots kept downplaying it.
      At least, Ms. Pelosi and others quickly LEARNED and REALIZED what was going on and made attitude changed to adapt to the new reality.
      I can say that back in Feb. I too didn’t click in as to how big this was going to be.
      Remember, the “news” coming out of China was skewed (basically faked from China) so we just didn’t grasp the big picture.
      Well… most of us did not. The “Fauci”s amount us did.

      At least, Pelosi learned and quickly took the right moves.
      Stay safe and healthy, you457wx.

    3. @Blondie SL https://youtu.be/pKmUxSlOoUE When Pelosi was telling people to go out the virus was already here, she caused it to be extremely worse, Trump is the only one who has done anything to stop it, this video shows the China cover up and how the virus was spread world wide in late Dec, and early Jan., but yeah, you stay healthy too.

    4. On Feb. 28th Trump did a rally in South Carolina where he was saying that the Dems are trying to politicize this by saying he isn’t doing a good job, and that is their new hoax, that’s the context, he never said the virus was a hoax. Feb. 28th this is after he stopped the flights from China, later on in this same campaign he says we need to take this virus seriously. Today we discovered that China lied about the details and 5 million infected people left Wuhan China in early January, so at the time of this campaign on the 28th the virus was already here. On the 29th Pelosi will go to Chinatown and tell everyone that they should go too, it’s OK, Fauci will also announce that it’s not a threat to this country. Pelosi telling everyone to go to Chinatown was devastating to us since people will go just to spite Trump, on Feb. 28th Trump is the only one who is trying to keep us safe.

  1. WHAT DOES IT SAY WHEN THE COUNTRY WITH ENOUGH NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO BLOW UP HUMANITY DOESN’T HAVE ENOUGH BEDS OR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS. PRIORITIES…………

    1. WELL IF POTUS HAD NOT AUCTIONED THEM OFF TO THE COUNTRY OR STATE WITH THE HIGHEST BIDDER A FEW WEEKS AGO WE MIGHT HAVE SOME .. BETTER HOPE HE HASN’T AUCTIONED OFF THE WEAPONS TO HIGHEST BIDDER FOR PROFIT .. IT WAS EYE OPENING FOR AMERICA TO HERE THEM SAY THAT AS NEW YORK GOVERNOR CUOMO PLEADED FOR SUPPLIES FROM POTUS …HE SAID YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN AND IT WOULD GO AGAINST THE FLOW OF HOW THINGS ARE SO WE HAVE TO AUCTION IT OFF .. NOW THAT IS CRAZY

  2. Trump fancies himself a “wartime president”. Does that mean we can charge him with war crimes? How many tens of thousands have to die before the buffoon is held to account.

    1. @Patrick Saelen Pelosi has over 100 million dollars as a public servant, the Clintons also are wealthy and Maxine waters bought a 3 million dollar house all with our money, at least Trump earned his.

    2. @Patrick Saelen You can’t even post a credible lie that Trump said, all you can do is tell lies, the irony.

    3. I’m sorry Moe but are you ‘wetodded’? Are you wetodded little Moeothy? I do not think that *dying to a pathogen that is not classified as living* even can be likened to any human *creating a war, and being blamed for each death in that war (even though this never happened as you claim).* Yet in reality, Trump ended a senseless, bad, and failure war in Syria that went no where, and was enacted by the previous administration on the way out, so as a “wartime president”, he sure has mended a war caused by another not “wartime president”, hasn’t he?

  3. Where’s this guy been? The way Trump’s handling this it looks kinda that way.
    It’s only a matter of time before the little fella Dr. Facui is fired for telling the truth you watch.

    1. @SouthSide Chicago but you got to stop saying when Trump put the travel ban on China because the part of that travel ban was already put in place. This is my issue when people talk about this situation because they are mixing it in as though Trump was very proactive him jumping on board and fixing the situation and Dr. Facui has always been consistent in his message saying we have to take this serious because if we don’t more and more people will die.

    2. @SouthSide Chicago in this video he saying and that current moment that they were in the United States did not need to be worried. But he clearly states that this could become a global pandemic if we don’t pay attention and take proper precautions. He never acted as though that this was never a huge deal and that moment it had not hit the United States yet.

    3. @Lakita Washington January 21st —–“Obviously, you need to take it seriously, and do the kinds of things that the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security are doing, ” Fauci responded. “But, this not a major threat for the people of the United States, and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

    4. SouthSide Chicago and yet 40,000 people (because of exemptions) traveled from China into the US after ‘ban’ … guess Covid-19 didn’t check visas or passports

    1. The one thing I notice about the crazies post is they all say Trump is the only one that has done anything, and I agree.

    2. So the UK, Europe Union, India etc.. are all facing problems because they all elected horrible leadership huh?

    3. FACTS 💯 #DUMPTRUMP2020 #USAHASNOLEADER
      ALL THE IDIOTS WHO DISAGREE GO FOLLOW HIM INTO WHATEVER HOLE HE FALLS INTO!

  4. *Trump: Governors are supposed to do the work … So, when things go bad I’m not responsible, and If US recovers I will claim credit for my 10 out of 10 performance!!*

    1. HE EVEN TOLD THE VIRUS LOOK I AM POTUS AND I SAY YOU CANT COME HERE AND YOU WENT AGAINST ME …NOW YOU ARE FIRED !!!INSANITY GAME SHOW HOST NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER OF HOW THIS COUNTRY WORKS OR TO KEEP PEACE .. JUST BE LUCKY HE HASN’T GOT US NUKED YET ..

    2. @Miss Lana. M. Hudson To bad you have no proof of that, but at least I can watch you lie over and over again because you crazies are habitual liars.

    3. @Protect XRP from HK rioters Thanks to China and open borders, when will you ignorant people learn that America hates you.

    4. @Robert Lubanga Kibirango The president doesn’t prescribe it, just like he doesn’t determine who gets tested.

  5. Interesting comment that the virus will return in September…..it hasn’t gone away and likely won’t before then.

    1. The swine flu and the spanish flu also had multiple waves. Afterwards it will infect people seasonally at lower rates.

    2. I guess that will be the new thing. Calling it a wave. And then pretending that the wave has passed. Now we’re just sweeping up the mess. Meanwhile, the crest of the wave hasn’t even hit, a shark is coming, and you’ve lost your board. All I can hear in my head is that snake from jungle Book singing that Trust in Me song coming out of this guy’s mouth

    3. @SeeMyBlessings Hallelujah
      While we can’t be sure _exactly_ what is going to happen we can actually be pretty sure what is *_not_* going to happen.

      We have pretty accurate models for the spread of diseases and when a contagious virus like Covid-19 is loose in the general population it is not just going away on it’s own.
      This is _not_ just theory, we have hard data from 1918 and other outbreaks up through the twentieth century.

      This guy’s prediction about half the population getting Covid-19 may be “wrong” in the sense that it could be a quarter (unlikely with the current knowledge) or three quarters, but it is *_not_* going to be just 50000 deaths in the US when the worst is over in two years. It will be at least 10 times that number.

      It is sad, but denial will only make it worse.
      Sometimes reality sucks, but let’s face it bravely and aim for the lower numbers instead of put our heads in the sand and create more suffering than necessary.

    4. The flu doesn’t go away and in 13 weeks kills more people, and we have a vaccine for that, don’t figure.

  6. “We don’t want to lock down so we have to come into some middle position” The virus doesn’t care what you want.

    1. nsgkuaov oh the irony of your statement. Don’t worry, we aren’t ever coming back there. Visiting when your economy was strong and again when it was weak showed me everything I needed to know about your country. I had to listen to what every Irish person thinks of American politics (and it is not informed). It was as painful as listening to a foreigner tell you what they think about your country’s politics.

    2. mark sorry to hear that , personally I couldn’t give a monkeys about your politics as long as it doesn’t impinge on me , however you or I will not be travelling for the foreseeable further , international travel will only resume when we have an effective vaccine or when this virus has infected most of the population of the world, which ever comes first, our health minister stated today that we would in some form of social isolation until an effective vaccine has been developed , I suspect he is 100 percent right !

    1. kiricalo the 21,000 people dead are mainly liberal democrats from New York City. So we’re okay with that.

    2. @Truth Matters “You are lying. The buck stops with China. Trump shut down travel from China in January. Democrats called the policy RACIST. On Feb 18, Dr Fauci advised that the risk of Covid-19 to the USA was minuscule. Dr Fauci believed the lying Chinese Communists who said the virus was not transferred human to human, but only from animals to humans.”
      oh look, every one of those was a falsehood.

    3. On Feb. 28th Trump did a rally in South Carolina where he was saying that the Dems are trying to politicize this by saying he isn’t doing a good job, and that is their new hoax, that’s the context, he never said the virus was a hoax. Feb. 28th this is after he stopped the flights from China, later on in this same campaign he says we need to take this virus seriously. Today we discovered that China lied about the details and 5 million infected people left Wuhan China in early January, so at the time of this campaign on the 28th the virus was already here. On the 29th Pelosi will go to Chinatown and tell everyone that they should go too, it’s OK, Fauci will also announce that it’s not a threat to this country. Pelosi telling everyone to go to Chinatown was devastating to us since people will go just to spite Trump, on Feb. 28th Trump is the only one who is trying to keep us safe.

  7. The test from the world health organization was rejected, no profit for America. We’re taking fire crawling through a mine field.

    1. @Peter Bruno As I posted earlier, there is no credible link that you can provide where Trump calls it a hoax, it doesn’t exist.

    2. @Peter Bruno Also I posted I hope it takes out Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Schumer and Schiff, and most of you.

    3. @you457wx That video link you posted is literally Trump calling the virus a hoax.

      I am aware the White House has offered up several explanations. Either Democrats politicizing the virus is the hoax, the media’s coverage of the virus is the hoax, he didn’t say anything was a hoax, or he was joking. I’m not sure I believe any of those. I think the comment speaks for itself.

      BTW the link you posted is edited. In the full version, he brings up Russia then he rambles on about the Democrats loosing after he says, “they can’t count their votes” and before he says, “this is their new hoax”. Nothing really relevant but it does put some distance between him talking about them politicizing the virus and calling it a hoax.

      Anyway we are just going to have to disagree. Now that the discussion has devolved into personal insults, I don’t see any benifit to participating further.

  8. i.Young People are just as Vulnerable to Corona Virus.
    ii.Young People can Still Spread them to their Parents and Grandparents if they Live in the same Home……😑

    1. Yes, this guy’s opinion is not useful. Sounds like a Trump mouthpiece “yes, let’s risk senseless deaths to restart the economy”.

    2. @Billkwando there will be more senseless deaths because of the crash of the economy then there would be if you kept it running. People die senselessly everyday everybody dies we should not be giving up rights for the senseless media and senseless Administration

    3. @Joyful Joyful 95% of the world has already been exposed you’re just sensationalizing the news. My whole family was sick back in December will make worry about yourself.

    4. @Elaine Luikart he took less precautions than any other country China had videos of people spontaneously dying literally just falling over dead in the streets multiple bodies on the sidewalks. Our numbers are higher than theirs and I don’t see it happening here it’s certainly not because of the precautions that we took these people welded their citizens indoors. Do you hear sirens do you see ambulances rushing around people weeping in the streets obituaries in the newspapers. Tyranny is the only thing spreading faster then the propaganda

  9. Korea is not losing control. WTF is he on about? Korea has had 52 or less cases for 7 days now. Today was 25.

    1. Singapore, Hong Kong and japan have seen a sharp rise in new infections in the recent days. Korea is fine.

    2. He’s just giving the Political Mantra, spreading confusion and disinformation, he sounds like a Trumpest and wants to open the country tests or no tests. Japan waited too long to even agree that social distancing was necessary, now they are in major trouble. Oh and bye the way Trump is MAKING SURE that this is a RED – BLUE State Issue.

  10. He’s a dangerous man, arguing for money over life, I’m not surprised tho. In America the dollar is above all else!

    1. +@Josh B Tried to have his stinky golf course in Florida used as a Summit Hotel. Having Trump airports in Ireland used by Air Force so his scuzzy sons and in laws can profit. Fined for stealing from children,s charities. Will not show his taxes. Bite the Big One. Fascist Pig!

    2. @SouthSide Chicago ” It’s easy to just call people names like a little baby. How about trying to state reasons why you feel no negatively? I know why, because you don’t have any. lol”

    1. Yeah, which is why the federal government won’t want to provide the money to perform the testing that needs to be done before we open anything up again.

    2. I agree. I don’t think he wants any testing because the numbers will go through the roof. He’s a very selfish little moron.

  11. The young people he wants to be “out there”–the healthy ones ARE DYING WITH COVID!!!! EVEN WITHOUT PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS!!!!

    1. @Conor not only that I found 2 cases of young people dying of something else and they labeled it Covid-19

    2. @Judi Gemini I don’t think you understand what he’s saying. In the podcast he said surgical masks don’t work for protection (which they don’t, obviously cause air goes right through them) and he said N95 masks are very effective to stop the virus. So i’m not sure where you got that he said masks don’t work? That still holds up now. For testing he’s saying we logistically can’t test enough people because we will run out of reagents needed for the test, so its never going to happen. We don’t have the supply chains. Are we going to have everyone home for 18months? Will people really accept that, we have to be adults and deal with tough choices, is what he’s saying.

    3. @Judi Gemini he never said masks weren’t important on Joe Rogan. He said the only effective masks were the n95 masks.He’s not saying testing isn’t important he says its not the total answer. If your going to comment at least know what your saying. He did say 50% of Americans will be infected. its a war and we need war like measures but there must be a nation wide agreement. Thats what he’s saying

    1. @Richard Christianson do you know what socialism is?
      Blue states giving money to the heartlands, that is socialism!

      You don’t want socialism? Make a sovereign heartland country. With an own government and an own currency.
      *And without money from the blue states!*

    2. @TheViperFan not our fault your state governments charge you more taxes, then squander the money. Besides the government subsidies (for farming, forestry, ranching etc.) benefit all Americans.

    3. @Richard Christianson if there would be two countries, with two governments and two currencys, the heartlands would be free to sell their products to the blue states country.
      The different currencys would guarantee, that these products would be sold to conditions *best for both proud and sovereign countries.*

      The heartlands could have presidents like Trump as long as they want to, and would not have to be angry at the democrates, or Obama, or whatever makes you angry, anymore.

    4. @TheViperFan You guys are ones who are angry — never seen such a hateful group because they didn’t get their way.

    5. @Richard Christianson if there would be two different countries, you would not have to be bothered by the way the people of the other country behave.

      *2 countries, 2 governments, 2 currencys!*

  12. It’s not red vs blue? Judging by who is getting supplies, I challenge the validity of that statement.

    1. WELL TRUMP AUCTIONED OFF MEDICAL SUPPLIES TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER PUTTING STATE AGAINST STATE TO BID .. HOWEVER HE ALSO ALLOWED OTHER COUNTRIES TO BID AS WELL .. ACCORDING TO HIS OWN WORDS

    2. Judging by who is acting in the interest of their population and which governors and elected officials are urging on to save the economy instead of lives, i’d say it’s more than clear this is a red problem first and a whole society problem secondarily. You cannot train your politicians and electorate to ignore science and reality for DECADES and then expect them to behave properly in a crisis situation.

    3. Kaz/ Trump is blackmailing NY to drop criminal chgs.
      He did it openly 3 previous times. Theres the Quid pro Quo’s again & again & again… Now his insane vendetta is killing innocent citizens by the thousands!

    4. @MyCvid Rural America voted him in, lets see if he bothers to help them.
      Small towns always depend on bigger city hospitals, even hospitals / doctors/ specialists in NYC that accept many ppl who cant pay for the best care. Trump cut off that life line to his supporters!! How many more will die bc top medical care is no longer available for other killer diseases? Sloane Kettering, Monte Fiore, Columbia Presbyterian, NYU Childrens Hospital, etc.
      This is what NYC looks like now:
      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-hospital-tents.html
      No hospital here can help the severely injured or ill out of state victims as they once did.
      Thank Trump.

    1. On Feb. 28th Trump did a rally in South Carolina where he was saying that the Dems are trying to politicize this by saying he isn’t doing a good job, and that is their new hoax, that’s the context, he never said the virus was a hoax. Feb. 28th this is after he stopped the flights from China, later on in this same campaign he says we need to take this virus seriously. Today we discovered that China lied about the details and 5 million infected people left Wuhan China in early January, so at the time of this campaign on the 28th the virus was already here. On the 29th Pelosi will go to Chinatown and tell everyone that they should go too, it’s OK, Fauci will also announce that it’s not a threat to this country. Pelosi telling everyone to go to Chinatown was devastating to us since people will go just to spite Trump, on Feb. 28th Trump is the only one who is trying to keep us safe.

    2. Let’s just accept that none of us will know the truth. It does not matter what China or W.H.O. said or did not say. There will always be conspiracy theories and finger pointing and neither of these will make any difference in the end. The fact of the matter is we have been warned of such a crisis for decades. This does not go away till we have a vaccine.

  13. Hang on. If college students can go back to campus because they are young then … how about the professors who tend to be older 🤯

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