‘Those are wartime injuries’: Doctor who attended parade on treating shooting victims

Highland Park, Illinois resident Dr. David Baum recounts to CNN's John Berman why he decided to run back to help victims and the carnage he witnessed after a gunman opened fire on a July 4th parade. #CNN #News

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    1. @Shark2 Hahaha, IKR? Its all fake. Fake news! Thanks for the lulz, I need to have some lulz to help me not be depressed with the sordid state of affairs in our country.

    2. Wayne that makes the difference between normal people and hero’s. They run towards danger for those in immediate need, usually without even thinking of consequences to help or take that action. It’s inborn with some people and others develop it later in life but it’s huge and wish there were more hero’s today. We could sure use them.

    1. @Ephward Shartwell We do not have ways to identify those who are insane from those who are simply evil and like to kill, before they hurt someone. Legally those who attempt to hide, conceal, run, evade police clearly see the difference between wrong and right. For this reason they are not legally insane, but they do not need to be walking among us, for our safety. How can we identify people crossing that line? We must instruct family members living in the household to notice the signs, it cannot be up to social media outlets, police, schools, and peers!

    2. @AngTxSun When you were growing up, I bet that you saw traits in some of your peers that were odd, if not actually disturbing……I did, and my teachers did too. and their parents did too. it is up to everyone to “see something, say something”.

    3. @Ephward Shartwell Yes, but I think mental illness is at an all time high, first person shooting video games seems to have replaced human interactions, and parents and teachers have no known transparent process for dealing with ‘signs’. We need a better system for reporting and handling tips and signs

  1. This doctor is amazingly brave and an all American. Thanks for sharing! best wishes Australia…

    1. “All American” is an insult. He’s better than that. “UnAmerican” is a compliment at this point.

  2. These things can not happen any where, they can only happen in places like Afghanistan or the USA or primitive places like that, in normal countries murder weapons are not sold like they are ice-creams..

    1. @Rillo 806 first of all, don’t pull the “look up the definition” bs. I would not be participating in this discussion if I had no idea what I was talking about. I’ve not insulted your intelligence and honestly I genuinely appreciate the back and forth here without the need to veer off topic. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t have a perfect answer for this predicament and I don’t think one exists. However, if we don’t try something more restrictive, even if it’s just to test the effectiveness of the proposal, then we are essentially okay with these tragic events. There is not one uniform age that defines adulthood or maturity. At 16, we could get a driver’s license, at 18, we can join the military and vote, at 21, we could purchase alcohol, and at 25 we could rent cars. Personally, I think semi automatic weapons shouldn’t even be considered purchasable, but since they are I’d think raising the age to 25 is justifiable. Men’s frontal lobe cortex doesn’t even fully mature until 25 (give or take some time because we all develop differently) and that’s the part responsible for executive function, helping us behave more rationally and less impulsively. With so many of these acts being caused by young males, I’m sorry, but that’s the demographic we’ve gotta consider. 18 year olds can serve in our military and be assigned firearms, but they’re also highly trained, so that should be an exception perhaps. I dunno, but at least I’m throwing ideas out here in hopes of genuinely trying to progress and find a solution for this awful, violent, trend. When people jump to insult or poke holes in everyone’s ideas, it’s like working in a group project with that one person who calls every idea bad during the brainstorm without ever contributing an idea of their own or supporting those who are trying. The laws in place, as they are, aren’t enough. To say criminals are gonna criminal, is not the argument a lot of the time because in many of these instances the shooter legally purchased the weapon. When someone severely burns themselves with scalding coffee, we don’t say it wasn’t the coffee, it was the customer. Instead temperature is regulated, lids become commonplace, warnings are printed on the cup, and sleeves are used for poorly insulated cups. Regulation is introduced for our overall safety. I guess what I’m getting at is, what are some ideas that you think might help decrease the frequency of mass shootings here in America? No shade. I want to learn from as many people who have different views than I do.

    2. @Demas this isnt a gun issue, this is a mental health issue. Some people own guns their entire lives and never shoot a single person w/ them because they are mentally stable. People need to start paying attention to their kids, be involved in their lives, listen to them. I see far too many people just giving their kids a screen (iphone, ipad, tv screens in the car playing movies on road trips ect) and use it as a babysitter because its easier instead of taking the time to parent their children. If you never take the time to interact w/ your kids that person can become disconnected and they wont even know it. And when someone says something like “im going to kill everyone.” while holding a knife like this guy did, people need to take that seriously. The police were notified multiple times that this kid was mentally unstable for some reason they just brushed it off. We need to make it a requirement of law enforcement to act when called about someone showing signs of mental instability. We need more money pumped into studying mental health and building the proper housing facilities to house and treat people w/ mental issues ESPECAILY IF THEY HAVE VIOLENT TENDENCIES IN THE PAST. They need to go see a professional and if they are violent or arent fit to own a firearm then they need to be flagged and not have their rights taken away but have SOME of these restrictions you’ve mentioned put in place. Why are these shootings happening now? We’ve had semi automatic rifles for over 100 years. So if they were the problem we would have seen this going on for the last 100 years but we havent. Its something thats changed in the recent years. And i personally think it starts w/ parenting and paying attention to mental health issues.

    3. @Rillo 806 thank you for your thoughtful response. I completely agree that this guy didn’t just slip through the cracks, he might as well been actively ignored as red flag after red flag after megaphone announcement after internet broadcast, and cartoon self incrimination were blasted at everyone who had a chance to intervene but didn’t. I completely agree with your perspective on the lack of parental involvement and mental health resources and how it’s (mental health) neglected here in the US. I’ve been a middle school teacher for 13 years and watched each generation become more detached and desensitized than the next. What’s fascinating is that they have the same access to media and research that you and I have, which allows many of them to thrive and fall into rabbit holes of meaningful content. However, others who are hurting also find support in shared misery. You can always tell which kid is on 4chan and Reddit, consuming every bit of toxicity that they could. They speak in hate memes without really understanding the context and freak the eff out when you call them on it because I’m a teacher and I shouldn’t know that stuff. It’s wild. Anyhow, my .02 is that an approach incorporating everything you mentioned is absolutely necessary but more needs to be done. Parents are absent because many are overworked and exhausted. The average family makeup is nothing like it was 40 or 50 years ago when a father could work a 9-5 (which is 8-5 now) and be able to earn enough money to support a family, own a home, and even go on yearly vacations. Life isn’t what it was and a lot of folks coming up right now don’t see a path to success or stability as an option. I know I’ve gone off the initial topic, but your comment got me thinking. Anyhow, thanks for the back and forth. I appreciate it. Take care of yourself.

  3. Two things I will never forget this doctor talking about: the horrific sense of these injuries that should never be seen on domestic ground, and how sure this man was the problem is because too young of a man had too powerful on a weapon. Gun control. Gun control. It only happens if the house and senate are overwhelmingly blue.

    1. @James Peter And pretty much no other (comparable western) country allows such free use of those particular type of firearms either

  4. I don’t even live in your country and I’m very emotional about another mass shooting. What this doctor stated about those injuries, and his wife’s 30 seconds statement too, says everything Americans need to know about their crazy gun laws. RIP and condolences to all affected.

    1. @Sue Howie
      Well first off its not a weapon of war.
      The weapon isn’t powerful
      And his knowledge on the subject is pathetic

    2. TY keep praying for us. TY doctor and all that helped 😍.
      My condolences to these families

  5. All due respect for this man’s words and his actions as a doctor during this tragic time.
    ” this is a failure to recognize what is going on in this country , when 18 year olds have these kinds of weapons which are weapons of war”.

    1. @AngTxSun Stop blaming the tool. I never blamed the truck that killed my friend. I blamed the driver. You wanna fix this? Fix the people that do this. Teach generations to raise their kids. Not be consumed by social media and the internet. I literally watched a family of 4 at a restaurant on ipads once. They were eating and playing on them, no conversation. Our family was in shock to see that. This isn’t a gun problem. We’ve had guns for generations. It never used to be as bad except for the past 20 years or so.

    2. @SMS2884 Like abortion. That’s a tool too. Fix the real issues, like SA, poor housing, poverty, lack of accessibility to health care, mental health care services and the list goes on.

    3. @SMS2884 I agree with you. I’m a gun owner and supporter of the 2nd amendment, yet in Texas it is a 3rd degree felony to have any of these: sawed off shotguns, machine guns, silenced firearms, armor piercing bullets. Maybe it is time to add the weapon of choice for mass shooters to the list. Maybe it is time to change the way guns are advertised in video games. Maybe it is time to admit social media is not mentally healthy.
      The path from video game to mentally ill to gun access needs to be broken.
      The carnage that takes place in under 5 min is barbaric and disguising. I know zero hunters who would call an assault rifle a hunting rifle.
      Children and teachers should be able to walk into a school and feel safe, families should be able to go to a parade, grocery store, fast food, movie without fearing the worst. We have to figure out a solution that works

    4. @SMS2884, the gun is just a tool just like a truck is, is a poor analogy as a truck obvioisly has an intended use. I suppose that it hasn’t occurred to you that the yearly addition of tens of millions of firearms to the mix just might possibly have something to do with the increase of gun violence in the US?

  6. THANK YOU SIR!!!!THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH !!!HOW A 20 years old can have a weapon ???FOR WHAT IF IT’S NOT TO KILL???🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯greetings from EUROPE

    1. Anyone can have an assault rifle here. He ended up being 22, but either way he had posted tons of threats online months before the shooting and no one did anything. Assault rifles in the US are considered a “right” and excuses are made here that if they’re taken away that criminals will get them anyway. We all know that whatever amount of weapons they could get if banned is minimal. Here literally anyone can open carry guns of all types including guns of war and use them at will. Mass shootings here are extremely common and they’ll continue to be so long as the right allows it.

  7. THANK YOU! Thank you for the lives you helped and thank you for your statement. no one is saying it loud enough. keep saying it please.

  8. Good for this Dr. to speak up so frankly about the state of your country’s gun ‘freedom’.🙄🙏💜🇨🇦

  9. Bless these people for looking beyond themselves to the needs of other ! You are heroes . thank You . <3

  10. In the course of the six years I worked in paediatric ER and trauma in the US, I saw more gunshot wounds than in a similar number of years working in conflict zones such as Kandahar, Mosul, Somalia, Eastern DRC, and even in S Sudan. The US today is a killing and maiming field for childhood and youth gun death and injury. It is why we moved in order to bring up our children in a safer environment.

    1. Americans have no idea how much it is costing them. Monetarily, emotionally, physically. They’re living in a war zone. Their cops are under so much daily stress that they are losing their compassion. (When everybody you see is a possible threat, you don’t behave terrifically kindly.). The monetary cost of gun violence- gunshot victims in the ERs cost a fortune! Lost lives and productivity from the injuries, the cost of incarceration, etc is crippling their economy. They need way more cops to try and keep some semblance of order, and they don’t have time to deal with the little things that if dealt with, get solved. To say nothing of the effect on the mental health of every American out there. I don’t know a single person, not even an acquaintance or a friend of a friend who has been shot. I live in a city with 3 million people. Someone getting shot is still front page news. It still shocks us. Americans are numb to it, and that is horrible for the psyche. They’re living in a war zone, but they don’t see it, don’t realize that it doesn’t have to be that way. It’s so sad.

    2. @George Jetson There are quite a few people asking about emigrating on r/AskAnAustralian subreddit in recent times

  11. I am so thankful for the peace in my little country, Seychelles. I hope our people will keep spreading love and not hate. My heart breaks for all the dead, the suffering and all the families

  12. This doctor and all the doctors and nurses who went towards the victims give me hope in the health field. You are a light in a dark America that needs #GunControl now

    1. @Tai Liu As they do already. Proud of my Commonwealth cousins. Hoping we can continue to hold up our end in the Southern Hemisphere.

  13. Finally an intelligent scholarly man weighs in on the issue. And the good doctor is absolutely right; high powered weapons do not belong in society, let alone in the hands of 18 year old kids!

    1. @Alex Cameron I’m not sure why you’d point that out based on anything I said, but I’m a 3 times decorated combat vet of the US Army with years long deployments in the Middle East and Afghanistan. I’d be happy to correspond with you about these various platforms, which is which, what the relevant specs are as it relates to this issue or any other. What’s your misunderstanding or question?

  14. The community is blessed to have this Doctor in it. I’m so sorry for all of these families.❤

    1. I used to be a Medic on a small Rural Fire Department. On one call, a four Month old baby Girl died in my arms. THAT was 23 Years ago. This and Uvalde has brought back that horrible memory.
      It’s an awful thing for me to say, but if they Convict that Monster, I hope he gets Capitol Punishment!

  15. I would love to meet this man. Sir, you are so humble. You did what the truly heroic would only do. I can only imagine the pain, and what you all had to witness. My heart goes out to everyone involved. Praying this community finds peace.

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