TIME Cover Says ‘Enough’ As It Lists U.S. Mass Shootings | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

TIME Cover Says ‘Enough’ As It Lists U.S. Mass Shootings | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC 1

 

In today’s issue of TIME Magazine, the focus is the mass shootings that have occurred in the United States and the main message is: Enough. Pulitzer Prize winning historian Jon Meacham and TIME Magazine columnist David French join Stephanie Ruhle to discuss why the president pivoting from grief to grievances is just scratching the surface when it comes to where we are.
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TIME Cover Says ‘Enough’ As It Lists U.S. Mass Shootings | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

88 Comments on "TIME Cover Says ‘Enough’ As It Lists U.S. Mass Shootings | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC"

  1. Terry Hawkins | August 8, 2019 at 1:20 PM | Reply

    Y’all saying ENOUGH while overlooking a MAIN cause of it….. EXHIBIT A is sitting in the WHITE HOUSE !!!

    • Let’s grow | August 8, 2019 at 6:38 PM | Reply

      Sammy Bolo proof~ 22 DEAD in the name of trump white supremacy. How many more proof do you need.

    • So . . . this only emerged in the current administration? Get serious dude. This tragic trend got rolling under past administrations. Besides, it’s grass-roots, not “coming from above”. And what would you propose doing about it from the top down? Grant a leader sufficient despotic power to control people’s lives and perhaps even thoughts?? There’s a list of despicable characters from the 20th Century who tried that. Marx, Lennin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot . . . The list is still growing and it NEVER works out well.

    • You know they haven’t had enough, some of them will get it when the monster is at their door step.

    • @shav12 you’re right, people like you have been terrorizing America for centuries.

  2. catalinacurio | August 8, 2019 at 1:21 PM | Reply

    ENOUGH AMERICA! 😢💙💙💙💙
    Rise like lions after slumber
    In unfathomable number
    Shake your chains to earth like dew
    That in sleep have fallen on you
    Ye are many, they are few.

  3. foxdesignbuild foxdesignbuild | August 8, 2019 at 1:22 PM | Reply

    Unfortunately Trump is utterly amoral and will embrace whatever he perceives to help him, good or bad. Right now he’s placed his bets on resurrecting the Confederacy and the evil it represents

    • @mo Mo IM one of those who notice things, my comment stands, be well.

    • @C.J. Tymczak Favcs arent racist, look any any BLACK city, my comment stands, be well

    • C.J. Tymczak | August 9, 2019 at 8:14 AM | Reply

      Mike Hunt Fact aren’t racist, how you use them can be. You implication is blacks are worse then whites when it comes to mass shooting, but it’s apples to lemons. Blacks are more involved in shootings, but they are not these type of shooting and given that they happen in crime and high poverty areas, not the same as a mass shooting. This is a very particular problem to young white males, look at the actual data, it’s obvious. You cannot fix a problem if you dont know the problem.

    • @foxdesignbuild foxdesignbuild
      And that differs from other politicians how??
      “resurrecting the Confederacy”?? Really?? The infected Left is just spinning in a very silly and constructive ideology right now and has very few actual replies or concerns other than fear, ignorance and hate.
      The Left is necessary for a freedom-loving Democracy to function. Without both wings the bird doesn’t fly. But right now the infection of postmodern neo-Marxism (feelings-based PC group victimhood grievance ideology), is epidemic in the Left.

    • C.J. Tymczak | August 9, 2019 at 8:43 AM | Reply

      griz063 I agree, he’s not resurrecting the confederacy, he’s resurrecting Nazi Germany cirica 1939

  4. Daniel Scott | August 8, 2019 at 1:32 PM | Reply

    School Starts in less than a month. Five year olds will be learning GUN DRILLS before A,B,C and 1,2,3 ! What is wrong with this picture?

    • Debra Turner | August 9, 2019 at 2:04 AM | Reply

      THE PEOPLE “RUNNING AND RULING THIS COUNTRY” ARE ALL “CRIMINALS” THAT’S WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY. !!!! AN “OVERHAUL IS OVERDUE, PERIOD.”

    • Lillian White | August 9, 2019 at 2:27 AM | Reply

      I totally agree it’s just a handful up there is honest. and faithful don’t know how long it’s going to last.

    • @roguemale TheOne&Only lol around the world… since 2011… 175 people… there’s 8 BILLION PEOPLE IN THE WORLD…. So you’re telling me since 2011 white nationalism has taken .000000001% of lives? WOW WHAT A THREAT!

    • @roguemale TheOne&Only on the SAME WEEKEND that the El Paso and Dayton shooting occured, the amount of murders in St Louis, Chicago, and Baltimore was DOUBLE the amount of the victims of both those shootings, but none of that was on the news. In other words the real threat is not on the news. And it’s not white guys.

    • roguemale TheOne&Only | August 9, 2019 at 7:36 AM | Reply

      @P- SquashTrump’s support base is largely made up of disenfranchised and disenfranchised white’s-US intelligence agencies now class white nationalists as a bigger threat than ISIS.

  5. 51% is an F! We need to do better!

  6. Flavius Stilicho | August 8, 2019 at 1:40 PM | Reply

    *THE SOLUTION IS EASY:* _Vote ALL republicans out of ALL political offices mercilessly and without remorse._

    • themarbleking | August 9, 2019 at 7:20 AM | Reply

      Solution is easy because the problem is obvious. Civilian gun ownership and America’s stupid ancient outdated laws. From the 2nd amendment to the electoral college. All underpinned by hatred against Native Americans, Mexicans and blacks.

    • @Flavius Stilicho That’s not going to happen this time around. The ideology-infected Dems are so fractured and insane right now. “The Squad” (including “The Bride Of Brother”) are almost daily stealing the spotlight to showcase their insanity. And while Pelosi was working to create distance from them, 2 small tweets from Trump were the 3-D-Chess equivalent of “checkmate”.
      There is a thought-infection in the Left right now. People voting for ill-conceived actions that are “merciless and without remorse” are going to elect people of the same ilk. And there is no greater hate of America and the freedom-loving West, that they could commit.

    • Linda Sandoval | August 9, 2019 at 8:26 AM | Reply

      Exactly

  7. patricia lafountain | August 8, 2019 at 1:55 PM | Reply

    250 mass shootings so far this year????? WTF How many more will we have before something is done????? Trump and Mitch needs too be taken out asap.

    • Maudie Icrochet | August 8, 2019 at 8:17 PM | Reply

      Yeah, where TF is the line?

    • sonic sounds | August 9, 2019 at 8:41 AM | Reply

      Robert Blackford we had 3 yesterday buckethead and thats just the ones they reported

    • @patricia lafontain Let’s dial down the emotions and dial up the intelligent conversation. The leaders of the people (there for perhaps 8 years if the Dems keep shooting themselves in the foot) are NOT what causes the social unrest gripping the nation. That is more of a bottom-up movement, and linked to an ideological infection that worked its way up from the radical Left to infect most of the Left and push the few remaining sane Liberals farther and farther Right.
      If people were as fascinated with history, psychology, philosophy and science in general as they were with their own subjective relativism (feelings), we wouldn’t be hearing calls for violence against leaders on youtube from people called patricia.

  8. Yasmani Bravo | August 8, 2019 at 1:58 PM | Reply

    What did the Aztecs do to montezuma? Impeached that traitor!

    • Buddy Mckimmey | August 8, 2019 at 3:34 PM | Reply

      And then the measles wipe them out

    • ConcordClark | August 8, 2019 at 3:51 PM | Reply

      However, he did get his revenge.

    • Let’s grow | August 8, 2019 at 6:54 PM | Reply

      Unfortunately it’s kind of to late for impeachment . With trump attempted to obstruct the process.The process would take all the way to 2020. He would only claim the victim. Its best to vote him out in 2020. Then he can also do prison time, because of the statue of limitation would not have expired. So no impeachment but vote him OUT . vote all DEMOCRAT in 2020 🇺🇸🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🇺🇸

    • Maudie Icrochet | August 8, 2019 at 8:16 PM | Reply

      Yeah, lets rip out his beating heart and eat it.

  9. Boigny Flynn | August 8, 2019 at 2:08 PM | Reply

    Electing Trump as President is like hiring an Arsonist as the Fire Chief!

    • @Robert Blackford but we can’t blame Obama, cuz he didn’t pour gasoline on the racist tinder like the current occupant of the White House does … and *every* honest human knows that.

      The only way Obama upset the white supremacists ‘and’ magaTypes was by *being* a black man.

    • @Robert Blackford your last sentence re delusional people persisting in their delusion has certainly proved to be true re the trump cult.

    • @Boigny Flynn One stops a forest-fire, with a back-fire.

    • @Boigny Flynn You are not going get a honest conversation about this. Some folks, have a hard time excepting responsibility, for what is spawning from their communities. They don’t want to be the new face of the “boogie man.” They have reserved that label for the black male.

    • @griz063 back-burning is done in an intelligent, well-meaning manner … and does not inflict collateral damage unless it is overseen by a numbskull who loses control. (If trump was well intended as his cult twists itself to believe, he would be that numbskull)
      Arson (aka trump’s m.o.) is intended to inflict random damage.

  10. Cue 1st Amend | August 8, 2019 at 2:18 PM | Reply

    The U.K. has sensible gun safety regulations. Citizens are not allowed to own them, and cops don’t carry them. No guns—no gun violence. These modern weapons do not belong in human hands.

    • Justin Timefortea | August 8, 2019 at 11:06 PM | Reply

      @81986978 Absolutely well said! 👍

    • @Justin Timefortea
      I said I would take your word! Oh pretty easy to get corrupt politicians out huh? Is your military unarmed also? I know not to ask if your rapes have gone up or, ah why bother. Make it a great day.

    • @Justin Timefortea the UK band walking and talking on cellphones because people where walking into poles and trees….that’s being free!!

  11. There isn’t much of a delineation between the right and alt-right. The fringe has become mainstream and you can hear the sentiment echoed on their propaganda networks. But it’s not new, racists have just rebranded themselves by softening their language and taking off their hooded uniforms.

    • @Real Talk76 Really? While the Left suffers infection up from the radical and extreme Left into mainstream and is pushing more and more sane moderate and centrist Leftists to the Right. And I understand the newfound unity in the Right is troubling to the victimhood agenda infected Left.
      It is a place where people talk freely and can exercise diversity of thought and opinion and intellectual discussion (see the IDW) rather than just hearing the same vague accusations about “the enemy” parroted by group-victimhood Olympics ideologues.

    • @griz063 yeah, they talk freely until they disagree with the bias that is being confirmed, then they are ostracized from the party for not being “loyal.”

  12. smirk Mc flerkin | August 8, 2019 at 2:38 PM | Reply

    Osama bin Trump will incites his cult to get their guns and make war upon brown and poor folks and left of center types.

  13. Trump says he will do something about these shootings. He will do zero.

    • Debra Turner | August 9, 2019 at 2:11 AM | Reply

      WHAT HAS “TRUMP” DONE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE ???? N O T H I N G WHATSOEVER. AND REMEMBER THEY FOLDED AND GAVE HIM THAT $2.5 BILLION DOLLARS FOR “THE SUSPOSEDLY BORDER WALL TO BE BUILT, “WATCH HIM AND HIS CRONIES VERY CAREFULLY WITH THAT MONEY, HE ALLOCATED FROM THE “PENTAGON”, AGAINST THE “PENTAGON’S WILL.” THIS IS HOW “SELFISH TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE.” “HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE OVER THIS SO-CALLED “BORDER WALL.”

    • Debra Turner | August 9, 2019 at 2:13 AM | Reply

      ‘TRUMP WAS “SELECTED TO OFFICE FOR ONE THING, AND THAT ONE THING, “IS TO GUT AND DESTROY THE UNITED STATES RULES, INSTITUTIONS, AND LAWS, PERIOD. !!!!

    • Keoki Ciervo | August 9, 2019 at 4:19 AM | Reply

      Yea he weakened background checks etc.

    • @Terry Kane Which is about what Obama did. Let’s give him as much time as America gave the previous administration. But I would just note that political posturing on the bodies of the dead . . . tacky.
      At least find something more meaningful than playing political blame-games. There is a thought-infection coming in strong from the Left right now. You don’t “blame” someone who is sick. You help to heal them. There is an infecting victimhood/blame/power ideology in the Left right now. The “Brownshirts” are few and far between. But variants of the NKVD and Cheka roam our streets at will in black hoods and viciously attack lone individuals with bike-locks, noxious liquids, weaponized gloves, pipe-bombs and then melt back into the protection of “their squad”.

    • David Lafleche | August 9, 2019 at 11:44 AM | Reply

      Liberals are to blame.

  14. The NRA should be listed as a Terrorist organization.

    • Debra Turner | August 9, 2019 at 2:01 AM | Reply

      NO MATTER HOW MANY “INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE MURDERED, THEY CAN THINK OF NOTHING “GUN SALES”, THEY ARE VERY LOW ON FUNDING RIGHT NOW, SO THEY NEED TO BE PUT OUT OF THEIR “MISERY”, AND SOONER THAN LATER.

    • So should the GOP.

    • Keoki Ciervo | August 9, 2019 at 4:18 AM | Reply

      They are an arm of little putin. They funnel money from the red killer to the GOONS OF PUTIN aka GOP.

    • @Jail Trump It is an ideology just like postmodern neo-Marxism is on the Left. It creates mind-fogged ideologues spouting ideological dogma. Neither is noble, and neither can call out the other without being hypocrites. But there seems to be a lot more going on with Trump that just ideology.

  15. 250 mass shootings in the US this year so far, but in Canada, just 4. Gun control works.

    • @Mike Hunt you’re allowed to believe what ever you wish, hey if that belief helps you to sleep better at night then sleep better lucifer, sleep better.

    • @R S Im Satan Because I notice things?

    • Steven Hershberger the numbers are adjusted per population, statistically America has the highest rate of gun deaths & massacres in the world, for example 73 times higher than in the UK. In 2019 alone there’s already been 253 mass shootings, that’s insane & doesn’t happen in other countries due to common sense gun laws & less access to guns. It’s very obvious, it’s the guns, stupid!

    • @Mike Hunt your logic is deeply flawed, but I called you Lucifer because he is the author of all lies and here you go spreading your false statistics.

    • @bellabana lol, tell him again bellabana, you know these people don’t like and can’t handle the truth.

  16. Moutton Noir | August 8, 2019 at 3:40 PM | Reply

    Tucker Carlson should be axed from TV. He spreads lies fear and hate.

    • Steven Grotte | August 9, 2019 at 9:42 AM | Reply

      Boycott FAKE FOX & inform the advertisers that we are boycotting their products as long as they advertise on FAKE FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @griz063 He can have other opinion, and be right sometimes, but he must be truthful and not the liar and manipulative moron that he has showned to be!

    • He’s one of the TOP leaders…he knows exactly what he is doing…he’s the one that throw gas on the fire n holler”how did that happen”…it is what it is

  17. Our house is not divided…
    …it’s burning down.

  18. Sandy Hook should’ve been more than enough. Shooting little children is as low as it gets.

    • Leonie Romanes | August 9, 2019 at 12:11 AM | Reply

      I think things will change, after a few thousand more Americans die. It will have to get worse before it gets better.

    • Enough for whom??? Enough of what???

    • @Dragonetta enough for anyone with any compassion to do something about gun control. They were babies. Gunned down in their kindergarten or 1st grade classrooms. Enough. You magats are disgusting. Disgusting to the core. Just like your leader

    • @darcanjel Actually toxic femininity psychologically assaults anything masculine even as early as pre-K and dishes out such passive-aggressive guilt shame and loathing on young boys — who then find that they have no way to establish value and reputation in the world that the very very small number of them at the extremes will settle for a notorious value and reputation. And they don’t do it surreptitiously like toxic femininity does on little children in school.
      That is by no means an excuse for criminal activity. But it is a valid reason why it’s happening. 60 years of Feminism have taken their toll (and yes, I can back that up. But by asking, you are committing to hearing the entire argument that will take many many posts to cover. If you are committed to this, ask your questions and we can start).

  19. ‘ENOUGH’ of Trump!

    • Let’s grow | August 8, 2019 at 7:06 PM | Reply

      Enough is Enough. I’m voting ALL DEMOCRAT IN 2020 🇺🇸🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🇺🇸
      🙈🙈republican 🙉

    • @Rob Simpson He didn’t commit these shootings, nor call them down. There is this perverse thought-infected notion on the Left that one person should be held accountable for the sins of another. And it is a foreign ideology that is so hateful of the West that it would throw away the very foundation upon which freedom-loving Democracy depends (freedom of speech, of expression) to empower dictators that will control the speech and very thoughts of the masses.
      There are a LOT of History-fails out there making a LOT of noise with quips and “approved dogma” who simply hate the West.

    • @griz063 Keep smoking that meth, inbred moron. 🤣

  20. “You can always count on Americans to do the right thing – after they’ve tried everything else.” – Winston Churchill

    • That is one of my favorite quotes about our country made by an astute observer. As I’m sure you know, Winston’s lifelong affinity for America & her citizens was rooted in his devotion to his vivacious mother Jenny who was herself American.

      As is so often the case, an “outsider’s” assessment is typically the most accurate & painful to hear…& accept.

    • dougiemm - Natsar | August 9, 2019 at 11:04 AM | Reply

      “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against the uncivilized tribes… it would spread a lively terror.” — Churchill on the use of gas in the Middle East and India
      “We proceeded systematically, village by village, and we destroyed the houses, filled up the wells, blew down the towers, cut down the great shady trees, burned the crops and broke the reservoirs in punitive devastation.” — Churchill on how the British carried on in Afghanistan, and he was only too happy to be part of it.

    • @dougiemm – Natsar Not one of his most widely used quotes! As a Brit, I’m in constant disorder between pride in our historical contributions to the World, and deep shame and horror at how we often behaved to achieve them. All Empires carry this guilt, and now it appears to be the turn of Americans to realize that a fresh perspective on their actions is delivering awkward and unpleasant truths. When China takes up the reins, as she surely will, it will be interesting to see if any lessons have been learned.

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