Trump Appears To Surrender To Coronavirus Spread, Embraces Deadlier ‘Herd’ Strategy | MSNBC

Rachel Maddow looks at a shift in U.S. coronavirus strategy as Donald Trump finds the advice of Fox News talking head, radiologist Scott Atlas more in line with what he wants to hear after months of mismanaging containment of coronavirus. Aired on 09/02/2020.
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Trump Appears To Surrender To Coronavirus Spread, Embraces Deadlier 'Herd' Strategy | MSNBC

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    1. @Scott Butler There is only one science and one set of facts. Not alternate ones you & your ilk would like to think.

    2. @Dan Kahraman Wrong, Democrats will not acknowledge these latest CDC figures as scientifically factual. Simply because it destroys their narrative. You can deny it all you want, call it alternative science or whatever. You’re supporting a duplicitous platform that uses science only when it is convenient.
      The inconvenient truth is that we have been snookered…Democrats just want to wear us down so they can control us and take away our rights “for the greater good”.
      Stay linear bruv

    1. Forty Six No one is saying it’s an automatic death sentence – I’m staying in my home whenever possible, washing my hands frequently, having virtual school and wearing a mask to do my part in protecting at-risk individuals I know. That’s not blowing anything out of proportion and I’m one of the most ‘leftist’ democrats I know.

    2. Nicholas Kedge Uh clearly not. When you say “come home fine”, do you mean come home from the hospital? People who aren’t that sick do not need to go to the hospital, clearly. And I’m certain that the 200,000+ people who died would have much preferred that the person who infected them stay home and wear a mask so they didn’t die. Again, as everyone SHOULD IDEALLY KNOW, just because you or your family did not die does not mean that someone you or your family infected (or who they infected, or so forth) will, and people who brush that off and don’t care must not recognize that the families who loose a member and can’t even be with them in their dying moments are devastated, as would you be if that happened. Do the at-risk families and people a favor and stay home, wear a mask when you go out, and wash your hands frequently to stop spreading the disease and help save them from that fate.

    1. @JETPAC MOZi
      Yeah, about that…when I want my MRI read I will call Dr Atlas. When I want to know about epidemics I will listen to Dr Fauci.
      Do you call an estate planning attorney to represent you in a divorce? I’ll go with the subject expert instead of the guy who “also happens to be a doctor”.

    2. @JETPAC MOZi
      And, before you comment back: no, I do not take medical advice from Bill Gates either. Who would do that???

    3. @JETPAC MOZi
      First off: put down the meth pipe and back away.
      Secondly: dafuq you talking about?
      And third: who said doctors are running the country?
      Seriously dude, between you, me and the fence… you’re the post.

    1. Gilroy Libbs I rather listen to Anthony Fauci,than your non scientific scam sites. It is difficult to explain to you that people with other illnesses when admitted to hospital and die of corona virus pneumonia , the death certificate will list the cause of death as corona virus pneumonia, follows by any other condition they might have had. It is counted as corona virus death. Because without the superinfection of corona virus they would have lived many more years. It is difficult to explain to a brain washed lay person like you.

    2. Robin Nilsson Scientists and normal human beings have done everything to prevent these unnecessary deaths whether it were car accidents ( by seat belts , safer car designs or safer speed limits and take every action possible to stop smoking. We need to do everything to stop this pandemic, by using social distance and face mask and hopefully vaccine soon . And importantly stopping ignorant brain washed people like you to listen to scientists and not your cult leader , who wants you to prevent you from getting corona virus pneumonia by drinking Clorox. By the way let us know how you are doing after few doses of Clorox.He himself seems to practice social distancing during his rallies.

  1. Low risk groups? Well, Except for lung damage and cardiac inflammation in high school athletes and children.

    1. it is still risky, but if I remember correctly, the cardiac inflammation data published had a further comment by the researcher quite recently.

    2. ​Google global truth project and read “the Present” if you want to know the truth about life/death. This text is supported by logic and can change the world, especially the beginning

    1. @ArticruciA Williams Not exactly. There HAVE been deaths due solely to the COVID-19 virus w/o comorbidity. Are people with heart disease, respiratory problems, diabetes, etc at a higher risk? Yes, but one can survive and still live a long, full life with these health conditions under a doctor’s care. Think of someone with cancer and any one of the diseases listed above. If the cancer progresses and they die, their cause of death would be listed as succumbing to cancer. Same rules apply for COVID-19. No scam. Shame on you for reiterating the misinformation of the Conman in Chief & his administration for the purpose of keeping the death total numbers down for reelection purposes.

    2. @Bulma San Because hw believes in following science and medical experts as opposed to the “experts” who tout demon sperm, alien DNA, bleach (or various other disinfectants), hydroxychloroquine, herd immunity, etc within a choir of sycophants? Ummm… no.

  2. Turns out, herd/population/community immunity is not working as expected. This guy wants to be one of this presidents henchmen.

    1. Exactly. Sweden initially tried the herd immunity approach and it was an abject failure so they rapidly reversed course.

    2. Hey moron, I’ll try to put this in a way your third grade mind can understand. With all the shutdowns, social distancing, and face diaper wearing, herd immunity was never tried. The reason your not deathly sick every year is because your immune system has built up immunity to many strains of the influenza virus. It has an RNA blueprint of many viruses and if you contract one, it sends antibodies to fight it that match that blueprint. If you wear a mask, social distance, or are not around people that have corona, and you take longer to contract it the virus could mutate way beyond any blueprint your body has to fight it and give you big problems. Your unjustified hatred of Trump and your ignorance will destroy you. If you listen to anything the MSM tells you, you deserve it.

    3. @Maine McEachern Are you sure about that? one of the people behind their(sweden’s) strategy, Johan Giesecke, has just been promoted to the position of ice-chair of the Strategic and Technical Advisory Group on Infectious Hazards which was approved by the WHO.

    4. @Mark Peacock — The ignorance is all yours, Peacock. The type of herd immunity you describe fits neatly into the shortsighted optic you provide, addressing pathogens that are nowhere near as virulent and contagious as COVID-19. In the face of the Coronavirus, the demographics most at risk are steamrolled by their own immune systems trying to combat the virus, and the healthcare system is overwhelmed while dealing with the fallout. Herd immunity in this context is a “let the bodies drop” strategy, that would appeal to the foolhardy, the narcissistic, and jumped up peacocks who can’t resist the temptation of regurgitating what they think they know.

    5. @Maine McEachern THe US has passed Sweden in the number of deaths per million inhabitants (US at 584 vs Swedens 577). The US has already a worse situation than the Swedish abject failure.

  3. Dear strangers, hope y’all are doing great in this pandemic.Stay safe, Stay healthy🤍

    1. Strangers seem to be the only ones dying from covid , all the people I know personally are doing just fine when it comes to covid !

    1. @Gilroy Libbs we can’t. Other countries won’t let us in because we’ve botched COVID…I’m also embarrassed to live here.

    2. Actually the majority of the people want to reopen, it just the MSM hacks and the lunatics on the left trying to get us to shut down again. The vast majority of people want to reopen and are sick of the left BS.

  4. 1980: I’m so excited for 2020, There must be flying cars by then!

    2020: ” *The more people get infected the better* ” **United states having almost 25% of all cases of Coronavirus*

    1. @Mox Avenger yeah, but only 5% of the world lives on the united states, so your point doesnt really add up.

    2. @Mox Avenger and if it didnt do twice the testing it would still be 4th, which would be a 2 million jump from 5th

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