Trump Ends Automatic Citizenship For Some Military Kids Overseas | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

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The Trump administration has announced that the children of some U.S. service members will no longer be granted automatic citizenship. MSNBC Legal Analyst Danny Cevallos, former assistant to President Obama Chris Lu, and Reason Magazine Editor at Large Matt Welch join Chris Jansing to break down what we know.
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81 Comments on "Trump Ends Automatic Citizenship For Some Military Kids Overseas | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC"

  1. Unless they are born in Russia

  2. Send Melania and her family back where they came from.

    • David Goldman | August 30, 2019 at 9:10 AM | Reply

      you first did you like when people said nasty things about mrs obama well you are just as bad as they were loser you are

    • @David Goldman I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I like President Obama and his wife very much. Get your facts straight.

  3. So what happens to his do-nothing 3rd wife Melania and her parents?

    • @denise salt hmm maybe youre right, I took the “do-nothing” as a an insult but it’s accurate. I still don’t see why anyone would be mad at her when she doesn’t influence policy, probably because she wouldn’t know what to even do. I’m pretty sure we agree on policy at least regarding immigration but the argument should be “the immigrants should stay not Melania” rather than “Melania should be deported or detained so trump can at least be consistent” the argument of applying terrible policy to trump does make the point that he’s a hypocrite but it makes us look vapid

    • @denise salt also I couldn’t find anything about her father’s communist connections so I’d like a source of you could provide one

    • Steven David Horwich | August 29, 2019 at 10:24 PM | Reply

      @Mastrelia It is a coup by definition, look the word up. Whether anyone agrees with the truth or not is not relevant, truth is truth. She has said and done hateful things while in a position of power, and is culpable for at least some of what happens. I think she is running Trump for Putin, but that’s my opinion.

  4. Fishie Fishie | August 29, 2019 at 2:23 PM | Reply

    what is it with trump and children ?

  5. So people agree to give their live serve this country and this is their reward. Smh. This madness has to stop.

    • @elijah mikle
      (I just have to copy paste this at this point. People are talking about things they have no idea about.)

      You cant reenlist in the military unless you are a citizen. almost all noncitizens in the military get their citizenship in the first enlistment.

      They have a lot of waivers to the point they can get citizenship for free in six months after serving honorably for a year (after 911 special provisions allow for only one day in service because of “in service during hostilities”). Even apples to illegal aliens.

      You can not have a secret level clearance unless you are a us citizen. And for most deployments you can not get deployed if you cant get a secret level clearance.

      For a noncitizen service member over seas in the first place is very unlikely. And to have child is very very unlikely. Most of the time they wouldn’t be able to bring a spouse to even have the child. So it would be a local national they knocked up.

      Government employees are more likely for this to apply too.
      But the thing is that there was not change in policy at all. The only thing that happened was a handbook had the information in it corrected.

      This doesn’t even have anything to do with Trump and there is no law allowing the executive branch to give them citizenship.

    • Lotta Sunshine | August 30, 2019 at 6:20 AM | Reply

      @Captain Caveman – Why should that matter if they are serving in our military? They should be rewarded for their service, not punished!

    • Power corrupts | August 30, 2019 at 11:33 AM | Reply

      That’s exactly right.
      No more free plane rides in air force one for cadet bone spurs.
      No more free golfing at his own overpriced rat and rodent infested minigolf motels.
      He inherited his millions from his daddy who got that money selling homes to WWII veterans.

      But when the time came for him to serve in Vietnam, he bought an excuse from his doctor. And somebody else had to take his place.

      Nobody rides for free orange one.

  6. Denise Villanti | August 29, 2019 at 2:28 PM | Reply

    2 of Trump’s wives are foreign born. Trump’s current wife’s parents achieved US citizenship through chain migration. And 4 out of 5 of Trump’s children are anchor babies

    • @T.Kizer Söze … guess you think that precludes him from being anti-Semitic?…

    • @T.Kizer Söze nope, he was born in nigeria. 🤣

    • Having read what u wrote, I ask again, do u think Trump is the problem or are half of the country(MAGA) just straight up dumb? He is a guy that doesn’t practice what he preaches but these people just love to be dumb. It’s like me saying good morning to u but it’s actually 11pm outside. 🤷‍♂️

  7. That’ll teach their parents to sign up to protect America, putting their lives, health and mental health on the line Just so that Spanky can think absolutely nothing of what they’re doing, given his own attitude towards serving his country. So much winning, eh, Trump supporters, excusers and enablers? Reap the whirlwind.

  8. Donald Trump Bone Spurs avoided the military draft 5 times and now he’s pickin on militar kids bc Donnie loves the talk but never does the walk! 🤔

  9. Danielle Adair | August 29, 2019 at 2:30 PM | Reply

    This is unconstitutional. Military have children, all over the world. This is ludicrous.

    • @ConfettiPancak3’s … apparently, you’re another inbred snowflake trumper bigot… feel free to self-deport to Russia with your so-called president and his pal Putin…

    • I agree this is stupid. If you’re born to an American parent anywhere in the World you’re an American.

      This is probably about John McCain. Asshat Trump wants to spuriously rewrite reality to say McCain wasn’t an American.

    • Lotta Sunshine | August 30, 2019 at 6:17 AM | Reply

      @TZoningHard – If they are serving in our military, what difference does it make? IMO, they are a lot more patriotic than Donald Trump.

  10. Again, how does this protect Americans or make this country “great”? Who benefits from this except that buffoon in the WH?

    • Republicans have been wanting this policy for generations, it’s nothing new for them..

    • John Pembroke | August 29, 2019 at 7:54 PM | Reply

      @Tessmage Tessera naaa, theres facts out there your not aware of

    • Only the pimple white mentally ill racists.

    • Eternal Darkness | August 30, 2019 at 2:49 AM | Reply

      Don’t call him Hitler please that’s flattery for him!he is a Mussolini or a Franco wanna be,just trying to distract the American people from all the issues he is facing,like a bully takes aim at the least powerful group because a worthy opponent he will never face like the daddy’s boy he is😂🤣

  11. Laurie Huntley | August 29, 2019 at 2:33 PM | Reply

    This man HAS TO GO BEFORE 2020 ELECTIONS. He’s Vile and Evil.

    • Angry Bushnell | August 29, 2019 at 4:22 PM | Reply

      @kaylw80 k malignant narcissist…. he’d launch H-bombs worldwide instead. Narcissists rarely commit suicide, but slaughter their families/coworkers/employers? Oh yeah!

    • Tessmage Tessera | August 29, 2019 at 4:38 PM | Reply

      @Angry Bushnell Nah, never happen.

    • @American uhhh you have no idea what violence is…. Americas gun violence is adorable compared to most SA countries, eastern European countries, Africa, the middle east, Malaysia etc etc etc…..

    • Mary Elizabeth | August 30, 2019 at 7:26 AM | Reply

      Laurie Huntley I disagree. He needs to stay and face the consequences. The party needs to have a total wake up call over putting this fool in power. If he is allowed to walk away from this mess his replacement will carry on taking away the rights of people and destroying the constitution. Everyone needs to reread George Orwell’s book Animal Farm to realize how this dangerous administration is taking the rights of individuals. Look at Hong Kong today fighting for democracy and follow suit. It is much harder to reclaim rights than it is to defend then. Trump is an old man and if nothing works, the grim reaper will solve the problem. The Steve Millers of this party will still be around. God help us all.

  12. Alexis Rivera | August 29, 2019 at 2:35 PM | Reply

    Back when I was in the Army we had a bunch of immigrants serving that were getting naturalized through their military service. They worked hard, and were a great resource to our units, they were true brothers to us. This rule insults their sacrifices to serve and lets us see clearly how Trump thinks that military service is an easy way to get citizenship.(Its not!) It severely underestimates the hardships and challenges all our service members face in serving our nation.

    • Alexis Rivera | August 30, 2019 at 1:10 AM | Reply

      @Colleen Reilly Thanks for the kind words. I wouldn’t go as far as calling myself a true patriot though as my sacrifice doesn’t even compare to our brothers who never came back. I just have seen and felt how our diversity makes us stronger as a nation not weaker nor dirtier like Trump’s people try to sell us at every step.

    • How would cadet Bonespurs know a thing about service?

    • Thank you for your service bro!!!

  13. Kevin Parsons | August 29, 2019 at 2:35 PM | Reply

    This is a clear violation of the 14th amendment

    • MSNBC is lying. This only affects the children of non citizens. The children of citizens gets birthright citizen ship which they have to go the a embassy to do like everyone else who is a american and has a child over seas.
      Would it make sense for a greencard holder to leave the US, have a child and then that child gets citizenship. Because thats the issue that this fixes.
      There was a loophole where the state department would illegally give citizenship to the children of non citizens.
      There is no law that allows the state department to do this.

    • David Edwards | August 29, 2019 at 8:16 PM | Reply

      tRump only knows about the amendment about guns, and that is because it is written in the cheque the NRA sends him every month!

    • @TZoningHard — *_”MSNBC is lying. This only affects the children of non citizens.”_*
      At 0:28 that’s literally exactly what they said, genius.

      But those “non-citizens” are still US military personnel. MSNBC and their guest there are correct — this is just Trump taking yet another shot in a long line of shots he’s taken at birthright citizenship. It’s chipping away at a small subset of it, but a shot at it nonetheless. He’s always hated the 14th amendment. There will be actual people affected by this that America is supposed to care about. And people like you are on here crying about how the news is “fake” when it obviously is not.

    • @CD Smith You cant reenlist in the military unless you are a citizen. almost all noncitizens in the military get their citizenship in the first enlistment.

      They have a lot of waivers to the point they can get citizenship for free in six months after serving honorably for a year (after 911 special provisions allow for only one day in service because of “in service during hostilities”). Even apples to illegal aliens.

      You can not have a secret level clearance unless you are a us citizen. And for most deployments you can not get deployed if you cant get a secret level clearance.

      For a noncitizen service member over seas to have child is very very unlikely in the first place. Most of the time they wouldn’t be able to bring a spouse to even have the child so it would be a local they knocked up.

      Government employees are more likely for this to apply too. But the thing is that there was not change in policy at all. The only thing that happened was a handbook had the information in it corrected.

  14. This is what Trump can do for american ….!!!!!, Biggest Jokes in century…total madness and shameless to the core

  15. This is just who Trump is and what he and his administration does. What a hateful and self-absorbed person.

    • Hildebeast Clinton | August 29, 2019 at 7:18 PM | Reply

      Marlon Ladd “The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired with the Russian Government in its election interference activities.” Robert Mueller, III, Congressional Testimony. July 24, 2019

    • John Pembroke | August 29, 2019 at 7:53 PM | Reply

      @CataTonic welllll,,, he is the “Chose One”

  16. If he can end birthright citizenship and deport people who have lived here their whole life, what’s stopping him from deporting me or you? Seems like a dangerous game. We gotta shut this administration down.

    • Godzilla Megatron | August 29, 2019 at 9:02 PM | Reply

      The 14 amendment protects you and make sure you got a copy of your birth certificate.

    • Cory Snyder
      Just to let you know this whole situation is mid reported. It allows kids who’re born to deployed servicemen to gain automatic citizenship. It only affects those adopted

    • TUNESMITH da INFINITY Tunegate | August 30, 2019 at 4:26 AM | Reply

      Cory Snyder it’s not haphazardly objective to moral sense or military trivia in fact policy is effected by mainstream media and expatriates once said the same thing but I don’t believe this is the same age and things are not absolutely set to be it’s to bring to attention it’s gripping

    • John Holmes jr | August 30, 2019 at 7:44 AM | Reply

      Yes very Supple vote him out in 2020 eliminate the orange head in 2020 send him packing

  17. This man is nothing but a coward. Bone spurs. Even our national bird hates him.

  18. Power corrupts | August 29, 2019 at 3:03 PM | Reply

    This is a bunch of bullsh!t.

    If you volunteer to serve this country in the military your family deserves benefits and citizenship.

    Cadet bone spurs has failed to learn the most important lessons in life.

    • He’s incapable of learning. The man is a fool on a scale we’ve never seen. He’s an intellectual vacuum, a bottom feeding invertebrate with no soul, a blood sucker with an ugly wig. That THING is the swamp. He makes me vomit. 🤮🤮🤮🤮

  19. WindSolarHydroHuman | August 29, 2019 at 3:04 PM | Reply

    *Sooo… when are we going to deport Baron Trump… I’m sure one of these new rules apply to Melania and even his other wives and older kids*

    • @lol lol yes, you are that dumb* FTFY

    • @lol lol .. time back Donnie Bonespurs said he would investigate all naturalized citiz trying to find flaws in the process in order to take their citiznsh . . well it could apply to Melany working with an overstayed tourist visa could it not?

    • Alex Rodriguez | August 29, 2019 at 5:14 PM | Reply

      Baron was an anchor baby. I think Don Jr. was as well. Dropping those anchors allowed Melania and Ivana to stay permanently. Eventually they married Trump, so they likely would have been able to stay in the U.S. anyway.

    • WindSolarHydroHuman | August 29, 2019 at 8:00 PM | Reply

      @Alex Rodriguez under the new rule birthright citizenship is denied to babies born in the country whose mothers are _not citizens,_ (Permanent Resident Status is not Citizenship) *therefore Baron Trump, Don Jr., and possibly the others are not Americans by this new rule… So in that case they must be deported too* like they are doing to other immigrants… Looks like Chumpy the Racist Clown and Stephen the Devil Miller didn’t think that through

  20. What will it take for America to accept this ‘man’ is a racist?

    • I know plenty of racist white guys dated asian girls. They are so racist toward Asian guys BUT love Asian girls. Your comment doesn’t prove anything.

    • David Edwards | August 29, 2019 at 8:19 PM | Reply

      I think the evidence shows he is not so much a racist, as he is a tRumpist. He only cares about people called tRump, especially Donald tRump.
      Everything is about what HE can get out of it.

    • princeoftidds | August 30, 2019 at 2:29 AM | Reply

      @Talia Kay Donald Sterling had black girlfriends, too. Does that mean he’s not racist either?

    • All Democrats think everyone else is a racist except for themselves. What’s wrong with being a racist anyway? if you don’t like that particular race that’s up to you,you don’t have to like every single race I know I don’t. Call me a racist, I don’t care.

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