Trump Is Trying To Create A Bogeyman Out Of Low-Income Housing | Stephanie Ruhle | MSNBC

President Trump told suburban voters they will “no longer be bothered” by low-income housing. Former HUD Secretary Julián Castro warned us this could happen 2 years ago. He joins Stephanie Ruhle to explain. Aired on 07/30/2020.
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Trump Is Trying To Create A Bogeyman Out Of Low-Income Housing | Stephanie Ruhle | MSNBC

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  1. The poor will ruin your life! Bigotry in display. Everything trump touches dies. America is on life support.

    1. @Hannah
      One of the causes of poverty is that poor neighborhoods have little access to services. By letting them live in better neighborhoods with better services, they have a better chance of getting out of poverty.

    2. When Trump stooge Ken Cuccinelli mocked the immortal phrase “Send me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses” he was speaking from the twisted dark and evil chasm that has become the soul of the Republican party.

    3. ​@Hannah Okay Karen.
      In fact, the tenants of this housing are the people who work in those low paying jobs, you know, the ones who have to put up with your shrieking about not wearing a mask as you demand to see the manager.
      Think of it like affordable housing for poor people; I realize you hate the poor but they gotta live somewhere and I’m sorry if their presence makes you feel uncomfortable but GFY.

    4. @Mainely Don’t misunderstand me. I hate Trump. I’m NOT a Republican. I am extremely pro-mask. I just hate to see ineffective policies enacted in good faith, that don’t do anything to address the actual problem. It has nothing to do with me being uncomfortable around poor people. I grew up in low income housing in the city by a single mother.

    5. @Jock Young I grew up in low income housing in Philadelphia. Much of my family lives in low income housing. I’ve seen it being forced into middle class neighborhoods and it just DOESN’T work. We need to address poverty, not just shuffling poor folks around.

    1. Per the very famous and accurate Gary Davidson Survey? THANKS Gar…..you’re the best Survey Taker ever. Why don’t you ditch your job at the glue factory?

    2. I do have to say that two World Wars were pretty bad, yeah. And then there was the great depression, caused by Wall Street, um humm. This is bad, though and very scary.

    3. the tater dumbest comment ever. More than 400,000 Americans lost their life in WWII. 6 million Jews died. No comparison. Get your facts straight. And grow a heart.

    4. Gary Davidson 70% of Americans want to compare this to WWII, the Spanish Flu (where millions of Americans perished) or the Civil War where half a million Americans died? To call this the worst time in history holds no factual basis.

    1. *Obama’s regulations in 2016 to drain economy by $2 trillion*
      May 31, 2017 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/31/obamas-regulations-in-2016-to-drain-economy-by-2-t/

      *The Obama administration issued a record number of new regulations on its way out the door in 2016, leaving an administrative state that saps the economy of nearly $2 trillion a year, according to a new report being released Wednesday.*

      The government itself spent $63 billion in 2016 to administer and enforce all of its own regulations, the Competitive Enterprise Institute said.
      With Republicans in Washington looking for reasons to streamline Washington and roll back President Barack Obama’s accomplishments, the new report is likely to be ammunition.

      “The federal government’s reach extends far beyond its taxes, deficits, and borrowing. Federal environmental, safety and health, and economic regulations affect the economy by hundreds of billions — even trillions — of dollars annually,” Clyde Wayne Crews Jr. wrote in the CEI’s 2017 “Ten Thousand Commandments” report on federal regulations.

      He counted 3,853 federal rules that were finalized in 2016 — the most for any year since 2005.

      All told, during his time in office, Mr. Obama issued 685 “major” rules — generally defined as having an economic impact of at least $100 million — compared to 505 during President George W. Bush’s tenure, the CEI report said.

      The page count for the Federal Register, which publishes regulations, topped 95,000 new pages in 2016, setting a record, the report said.

      The Department of the Treasury led the way among executive branch agencies by accounting for 469 rules among agency priorities, followed by the Interior, Transportation and Commerce departments and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Financial regulations and federal land use issues in the western part of the U.S. were two big battles during the Obama administration.

      President Trump already has made regulatory reform a key part of his agenda. He ordered the dismantling of Mr. Obama’s Clean Power Plan, which was a push to regulate carbon emissions in the nation’s power plants, and teamed up with Congress to repeal about a dozen last-minute Obama-era regulations.

      But the CEI report said Congress should also bear more responsibility for the “hidden tax” of regulatory costs, which it said gets passed on to consumers to the tune of $15,000 per household.

      For example, rather than vote to create new job training programs — and accept the consequences of adding to the federal deficit — lawmakers can instead pass a law requiring major companies to provide job training under rules they delegate to the Labor Department, Mr. Crews wrote.

      “The latter option would add little to federal spending but would still let Congress take credit for the program,” he wrote. “By regulating instead of spending, government can expand almost indefinitely without explicitly taxing anybody one extra penny.”

      The growth of the so-called “administrative state” has become a major issue in conservative legal circles, with some scholars saying it’s time to push the federal courts to roll back regulatory power and force it back into the hands of Congress.

      Newly installed Supreme Court Justice Neil M. Gorsuch drew praise from some conservative circles with his opinion in a case last year in which he said it may be time for the high court to show less deference to regulatory agencies’ decisions.

      On Capitol Hill, Republicans are pushing another solution: fewer regulations all around.

      In January the House passed the REINS Act, which would require Congress to vote on major rules before they can take effect. That legislation hasn’t gone anywhere in the Senate.

      Congress has, however, used the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to overturn a dozen last-minute Obama-era regulations. Previously the tool had been used just once to overturn a Clinton-era rule.

      Democrats have tried to throw up roadblocks to Republicans’ deregulation efforts, saying many rules are intended to protect consumers, notably in the area of financial oversight.

      Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer said earlier this month that the recent uses of the CRA were more about helping special interests than rolling back burdensome regulations.

      “They are giveaways to big oil, big gas, big coal, big mining and wealthy special interests,” he said.

      The total federal regulatory cost was $1.963 trillion in 2016, which marked an increase of about $100 billion since 2012, according to Mr. Crews’ analysis.
      Mr. Trump can also order reviews within his own administration, hoping to knock out rules that tie the economy’s hands.

      But White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said it’s not always easy to unwind long-embedded regulations.

      “As we’ve been through the process, what we’ve learned is, it’s not that hard to slow down an agency on creating new regs,” Mr. Mulvaney recently told the Senate Budget Committee. “But when you ask an agency, a bureaucratic agency that is designed to create regs, to start to deregulate themselves … it’s a muscle that they have not used for a long time, if ever.”

      Still, Mr. Obama’s penchant for using regulations as an end run around Congress means some of them are easier to undo now, said Tim Phillips, president of Americans for Prosperity.

      “Right now we’re seeing enormous progress rolling back the extreme environmental regulations of the Obama years precisely because our side was successful in stopping the extreme environmental legislation during the eight years of Obama,” said Mr. Phillips, whose group lobbies for lower taxes and fewer regulations.

  2. How is it helping Trump if his supporters live in low income housing? It’s not. Good job Trump keep hurting your base.

    1. Rezoning will also require costly infrastructure changes
      Otherwise people will be left with problems for basic services such as sewer and water.

      Where is that money going to come from, and who wants all their streets dug up?
      Such so suburbs can get low income housing added to decrease property values, increase taxes, and increase crime.

      People in suburbs have less available and travel into town.
      How will low income people get into town regularly and what will they do daily without the available services, restaurants, etc (boredom creates more trouble and crime)

    2. Law enforcements are usually called numerous times in low income housing. They have weekend drunk parties drugs..boyfriends that are not on the lease most of them felons who can’t qualify be in low housing stealing off of the tax payer for free rent.it will drive property values down in suburbs

    3. secret sauce The government does not owe you a house built beside the upper echelons. They don’t really owe you anything. Although it is nice that low-income housing be built in low-income neighborhoods, and available to people of low-income means. The police officers should be increased 10 fold in these neighborhoods, so that these low-income people are supported by the police officers getting rid of the riffraff.

  3. Here he is also just following in his father’s footsteps who wouldn’t rent to people of color. Woodie Guthrie was living in one of his apts, wrote a song about it and left for somewhere else to live.

    1. His OWN ROT of a ” father” was a card carrying KLANSMAN…. just do the MATH !! He’s actually saying WHITES don’t have to be bothered by BLACK and BROWN people any longer !! It’s the ol ” BLACK” boogie man syndrome !!!

    1. Let low income housing that has ms 13 El salvadoreans live next to msnbc CNN people I bet they would agree with Trump

    2. Leo Ascendant Compassion He has shown the world how absolutely stupid he is. He’s obviously doesn’t know what he’s doing. 2/3 of the country knows, and the others? Well, we all know where their heads are.

    3. Andre Stipanovic It is not uncompassionate to not want to live by drug users, pushers, prostitutes, etc. The government doesn’t owe poor people a house in the suburbs right beside the golf course. Where in the world do you get your ideas of what a government does?

    4. @Shawna Weesner the government would not be “giving” anything. What trump destroyed was a law to not be discriminated against for race, etc., for people working their way up to those subdivisions. People who have worked hard to improve their lives and the lives of their families.

    1. @Alex Hamilton Dear Alex, it’s hard to see anyone being more incompetent in modern time then the present.

    2. *Record $135 billion a year for illegal immigration, average $8,075 each, $25,000 in NY*
      Sept 2017 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/record-135-billion-a-year-for-illegal-immigration-average-8-075-each-25-000-in-ny

      *The swelling population of illegal immigrants and their kids is costing American taxpayers $135 billion a year, the highest ever, driven by free medical care, education and a huge law enforcement bill, according to the the most authoritative report on the issue yet.*

      And despite claims from pro-illegal immigration advocates that the aliens pay significant off-setting taxes back to federal, state and local treasuries, the Federation for American Immigration Reform report tallied just $19 billion, making the final hit to taxpayers about $116 billion.

      State and local governments are getting ravaged by the costs, at over $88 billion. The federal government, by comparison, is getting off easy at $45 billion in costs for illegals.

    3. I am not opposed to section 8 housing and the like. I actually think its good. But I lived in a nice suburban home next to a children’s park in Dallas. And a stone throws away was section 8 housing newly constructed. Since that housing was constructed, I see drug dealers hanging out at the park where children play. And three times a month there are drive by shootings at my intersection. The cops never respond to the calls. One night my family got caught in the crossfire of a drive by shooting. No one was hurt thank goodness. But I sort of understand Trumps point of view. Our homes lost value, nice people were scared, and people starting moving out. I am trying to spread my experience as to many on here as possible, so they understand.

    1. He is a sadist and so are the majority of his base who love dishing out abusive and cowardly cruelty.

    2. Spread your truth because it matters that people as yourself see what’s going on…Very sad!

    3. Here’s my POV. I am not opposed to section 8 housing and the like. I actually think its good. But I lived in a nice suburban home next to a children’s park in Dallas. And a stone throws away was section 8 housing newly constructed. Since that housing was constructed, I see drug dealers hanging out at the park where children play. And three times a month there are drive by shootings at my intersection. The cops never respond to the calls. One night my family got caught in the crossfire of a drive by shooting. No one was hurt thank goodness. But I sort of understand Trumps point of view. Our homes lost value, nice people were scared, and people starting moving out. I am trying to spread my experience as to many on here as possible, so they understand.

  4. 45 didn’t go to Lewis’ funeral. 45 is trying to find his way back to the 1950’s. I don’t want to ‘go back’. Do you? #donaldwho

    1. @Robert – It would serve him right. He went to Dallas to hold a Law Enforcement & Race Relations roundtable & didn’t invite the 3 top law enforcement officials from Dallas. The District Attorney, the Sheriff & the Chief of Police. The fact that they were Black highly qualified them for the race relations part of the roundtable. So, the mayor didn’t attend either because he was insulted, being that he is also Black.

  5. Trump would not be President today if it was not for “low-income” housing. We must remember how his dear old dad made a large portion of his fortune, and that a lion’s share of that wealth went to Trump; Fred Trump was a racist slum-lord, his son seems to think upscale gated communities are the future.

    1. @Slappywag Waggings I don’t have to tel it to myself, am telling the little democrat minions

    2. I am not opposed to section 8 housing and the like. I actually think its good. But I lived in a nice suburban home next to a children’s park in Dallas. And a stone throws away was section 8 housing newly constructed. Since that housing was constructed, I see drug dealers hanging out at the park where children play. And three times a month there are drive by shootings at my intersection. The cops never respond to the calls. One night my family got caught in the crossfire of a drive by shooting. No one was hurt thank goodness. But I sort of understand Trumps point of view. Our homes lost value, nice people were scared, and people starting moving out. I am trying to spread my experience as to many on here as possible, so they understand.

    3. Robert You are correct! The federal government has no business telling states that they must build low-income housing beside lovely homes in a lovely neighborhood. It makes no sense! Here’s what makes sense, build low-income housing in low-income neighborhoods, and make it possible for people to take care of these places, by increasing the police 10 fold in these poor areas; then arrest, and lock up the criminals. This will allow businesses to come back in poor neighborhoods, too, because they will not always be vandalized, and burned down, and taken over by gangs like Antifa.

    4. They were sued 3 times, twice by the federal government, for refusing to rent to black people.

  6. This plays to his base. The deplorables hate poor people, especially those with a darker shade of skin.

    1. @Thomas Armsworthy Jr, and Barack Obama invented a time machine, went back in time, and started WW1 and 2!

  7. Did any body notice the migrant hoard from Mexico disappeared after Donald was elected. It never existed, because it was all made up by Donald and clan.

    1. KVM: You’ve got a good line here. I hope you don’t mind if I use it. President Trump wanted to attract
      new voters so he decided to have a big disco dance at the White House, putting up a big rainbow banner.
      His efforts proved fruitless.

    2. I am not opposed to section 8 housing and the like. I actually think its good. But I lived in a nice suburban home next to a children’s park in Dallas. And a stone throws away was section 8 housing newly constructed. Since that housing was constructed, I see drug dealers hanging out at the park where children play. And three times a month there are drive by shootings at my intersection. The cops never respond to the calls. One night my family got caught in the crossfire of a drive by shooting. No one was hurt thank goodness. But I sort of understand Trumps point of view. Our homes lost value, nice people were scared, and people starting moving out. I’m here to share my story and I want everyone to know it.

    1. *Obama’s regulations in 2016 to drain economy by $2 trillion*
      May 31, 2017 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/31/obamas-regulations-in-2016-to-drain-economy-by-2-t/

      *The Obama administration issued a record number of new regulations on its way out the door in 2016, leaving an administrative state that saps the economy of nearly $2 trillion a year, according to a new report being released Wednesday.*

      The government itself spent $63 billion in 2016 to administer and enforce all of its own regulations, the Competitive Enterprise Institute said.
      With Republicans in Washington looking for reasons to streamline Washington and roll back President Barack Obama’s accomplishments, the new report is likely to be ammunition.

      “The federal government’s reach extends far beyond its taxes, deficits, and borrowing. Federal environmental, safety and health, and economic regulations affect the economy by hundreds of billions — even trillions — of dollars annually,” Clyde Wayne Crews Jr. wrote in the CEI’s 2017 “Ten Thousand Commandments” report on federal regulations.

      He counted 3,853 federal rules that were finalized in 2016 — the most for any year since 2005.

      All told, during his time in office, Mr. Obama issued 685 “major” rules — generally defined as having an economic impact of at least $100 million — compared to 505 during President George W. Bush’s tenure, the CEI report said.

      The page count for the Federal Register, which publishes regulations, topped 95,000 new pages in 2016, setting a record, the report said.

      The Department of the Treasury led the way among executive branch agencies by accounting for 469 rules among agency priorities, followed by the Interior, Transportation and Commerce departments and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Financial regulations and federal land use issues in the western part of the U.S. were two big battles during the Obama administration.

      President Trump already has made regulatory reform a key part of his agenda. He ordered the dismantling of Mr. Obama’s Clean Power Plan, which was a push to regulate carbon emissions in the nation’s power plants, and teamed up with Congress to repeal about a dozen last-minute Obama-era regulations.

      But the CEI report said Congress should also bear more responsibility for the “hidden tax” of regulatory costs, which it said gets passed on to consumers to the tune of $15,000 per household.

      For example, rather than vote to create new job training programs — and accept the consequences of adding to the federal deficit — lawmakers can instead pass a law requiring major companies to provide job training under rules they delegate to the Labor Department, Mr. Crews wrote.

      “The latter option would add little to federal spending but would still let Congress take credit for the program,” he wrote. “By regulating instead of spending, government can expand almost indefinitely without explicitly taxing anybody one extra penny.”

      The growth of the so-called “administrative state” has become a major issue in conservative legal circles, with some scholars saying it’s time to push the federal courts to roll back regulatory power and force it back into the hands of Congress.

      Newly installed Supreme Court Justice Neil M. Gorsuch drew praise from some conservative circles with his opinion in a case last year in which he said it may be time for the high court to show less deference to regulatory agencies’ decisions.

      On Capitol Hill, Republicans are pushing another solution: fewer regulations all around.

      In January the House passed the REINS Act, which would require Congress to vote on major rules before they can take effect. That legislation hasn’t gone anywhere in the Senate.

      Congress has, however, used the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to overturn a dozen last-minute Obama-era regulations. Previously the tool had been used just once to overturn a Clinton-era rule.

      Democrats have tried to throw up roadblocks to Republicans’ deregulation efforts, saying many rules are intended to protect consumers, notably in the area of financial oversight.

      Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer said earlier this month that the recent uses of the CRA were more about helping special interests than rolling back burdensome regulations.

      “They are giveaways to big oil, big gas, big coal, big mining and wealthy special interests,” he said.

      The total federal regulatory cost was $1.963 trillion in 2016, which marked an increase of about $100 billion since 2012, according to Mr. Crews’ analysis.
      Mr. Trump can also order reviews within his own administration, hoping to knock out rules that tie the economy’s hands.

      But White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said it’s not always easy to unwind long-embedded regulations.

      “As we’ve been through the process, what we’ve learned is, it’s not that hard to slow down an agency on creating new regs,” Mr. Mulvaney recently told the Senate Budget Committee. “But when you ask an agency, a bureaucratic agency that is designed to create regs, to start to deregulate themselves … it’s a muscle that they have not used for a long time, if ever.”

      Still, Mr. Obama’s penchant for using regulations as an end run around Congress means some of them are easier to undo now, said Tim Phillips, president of Americans for Prosperity.

      “Right now we’re seeing enormous progress rolling back the extreme environmental regulations of the Obama years precisely because our side was successful in stopping the extreme environmental legislation during the eight years of Obama,” said Mr. Phillips, whose group lobbies for lower taxes and fewer regulations.

    2. @Keith Johnson – Shelby GT500
      They don’t care. These people plan to live off the government for the rest of their lives. We cannot win them over with details. We must change the culture.

    3. @Albert Green
      Trump was Court ordered to pay back $2 million dollars he stole from the Trump charity! To help find his 2016 campaign.

    4. I moved to this country during his presidency and I have never been better financially! We came with literally nothing. In less than a year we got everything we needed start over. More than we imagined. This is a great country and we have a great president. You should be thankful to live in a free country. God is good!!

  8. That’s what it feels like he’s trying to do. Get anybody to vote for him… scraping the bottom of the barrel

    1. Ken Albertsen like he said for 3 yrs. consecutively that Obama was going to do to win. He’s so delusional.

    1. I am not opposed to section 8 housing and the like. I actually think its good. But I lived in a nice suburban home next to a children’s park in Dallas. And a stone throws away was section 8 housing newly constructed. Since that housing was constructed, I see drug dealers hanging out at the park where children play. And three times a month there are drive by shootings at my intersection. The cops never respond to the calls. One night my family got caught in the crossfire of a drive by shooting. No one was hurt thank goodness. But I sort of understand Trumps point of view. Our homes lost value, nice people were scared, and people starting moving out. I am trying to spread my experience as to many on here as possible, so they understand.

  9. Still seeking his fathers approval and love
    Let’s ship this family of bigots over to Russia, good riddance

    1. Russell Hinton: I see you are getting into the Trump family. Don’t let that happen to you. I’m seeing more of them than ever before and it’s never good. I hope you are stockpiling food.

    2. Alex Hamilton , we are getting played brother, open your eyes and ears, think for your self

    3. John Watt , if I stockpile food it will be at my local food bank, it’s not to late, we can still help ourselves by helping a stranger

  10. Trump is outing himself and all his predjudices. He is only for those with money. All others are just too lazy to do anything about it. How disgusting is that!!!!

  11. So let me get this straight. Trump supporters are all affluent people who don’t need low income housing?

    1. @Albert Green Cause that is a straight DogWhistle! Blacks are the ones who are Essentially working on the Front lines like Hispanics! Trying everyday to stretch.59 to a dollar! Working for pennies,while taking care of generations! Most of you can afford or are in positions to work your corporate positions from home! Let that be the reason that we are dying more rapidly than others! Not to mention issues in our community! When we are in a position to elevate or have financially made management decisions that has changed our financial status, we then have to live according to our tax bracket! Meaning the a trailer nor section 8 nor low income housing would apply to Us so where else would we live? We are trying at that point to more on Up like the Jefferson Sitcom, yet instead of being congratulated we get Discriminated against for being in the position to do so!

    2. ​@Angela Brown
      Let me explain to you the problem with dog whistles in simple terms. If you think that me saying (for example) “frogs are green” is a dog whistle, how can I ever say “frogs are green” even if I truly want to say “frogs are green”?

      How do you know he didn’t mean exactly the words he said.

    3. @Robert
      The left hears this and hears this… (This is not an exaggeration)

      “I live in a nice white neighborhood and some blacks moved in. We don’t blacks so now we have to leave.”

    4. Explain to the trailpark Trash in your family! But I know a Liar and Killa when I see one! Your President is a Bigot and that was a Call to all Bigots to keep the keep on the neck of opportunity for Blacks and Browns!

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