Trump Official’s Facebook Meltdown Raises Concerns About CDC Communications | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Rachel Maddow highlights some of the bizarre conspiratorial statements from HHS spokesperson Michael Caputo who is reportedly using his position to manipulate the CDC's scientific reports. Aired on 09/14/2020.
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Trump Official's Facebook Meltdown Raises Concerns About CDC Communications | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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    1. @Foniks Monkee you’re defending the US government which has used scientists for over 100 years to commit crimes against the American people? THAT’S your argument?

    2. @Kent Horvath yeah – because what you are presenting here is a strawman. The particularly scientists we are talking about do world leading work – and without them, many many thousands of people would die each year, and the health outcomes of an entire country would be a lot worse. They are a leading source of information on infectious diseases around the world.

      What are you advocating? We just close our eyes and hope viruses go away? We just forget about learning how bacteria infects food? We just stop investigating outbreaks of diseases around the country?

      The CDC is supposed to be, and has been a-political. It is only under Trump that we’ve suddenly seen politically appointed (i.e. people appointed because of their fealty to Trump rather than their expertise).

  1. Standard Trump administration reflection: accuse decent people of doing what the trash in Donnie’s administration is doing.

    1. @MrWideballs As long as both parties are constituted of people, and most people continue to “do bad stuff all the time”, then both parties will continue to do bad stuff all the time. Some are just better examples than others, and Trump is the current poster child…no pun intended.

    2. @Andrew Mitchell 3 physicians misdiagnosed my father-in-law and almost ordered and performed a colectomy. I insisted they speak with the radiologist, who corrected all of them. Seems you don’t have a lot of experience with doctors, donkey. Oh…and my wife is a physician. Good luck thinking you know more than I. this is you failing, in case you didn’t know that either.

    3. @Kent Horvath I am the King of Siam and a team of 30 doctors gave me the ability to fly. Or, to cut it short: don’t make unverifiable claims to excuse the nonsense you write.

    1. This is in response to the fact that the CDC UPGRADED THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DYING DIRECTLY FROM COVID…. Now they are trying to spin the news that Trump might have had something to do with it…. YOU ARE TOO LATE MSNBC…

    2. @Joy Phillips What do you mean by “this”?
      What do you mean by “upgraded”?
      What’s “too late”?
      How do you know whatever it is that you’re trying to convey?

      This is your brain on Trump.

    1. @Tylorian No, you’re in a cult when you don’t realize the man who led us to 200k deaths, wrecked Obama’s economy, and is fine with russian bounties…..isn’t a leader.

      He’s a coward. Cowards don’t take responsibility. Cowards hide in bunkers. Cowards don’t stand up for the people. Cowards don’t respect our troops. Cowards dodge the draft 5 times with “bone spurs.” Cowards leave immigrant children in cages for 4 years. Cowards try to delegitimize the media to avoid criticism. Cowards are submissive to Putin.

    2. Just a PuP trying to Hit 5k Subs have you not seen Antifa and blm movement? The antifa are terrorist by definition. Blm is a communist organization. We didn’t fight in Vietnam so that 50 years later we would be dealing with communism in our country.

    1. *‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’*
      Several states—including Pennsylvania, the site of one of the country’s largest outbreaks, as well as Texas, Georgia, and Vermont—are blending the data in the same way. Virginia likewise mixed viral and antibody test results until last week, but it reversed course and the governor apologized for the practice after it was covered by the Richmond Times-Dispatch and The Atlantic. Maine similarly separated its data on Wednesday; Vermont authorities claimed they didn’t even know they were doing this

      The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is conflating the results of two different types of coronavirus tests, distorting several important metrics and providing the country with an inaccurate picture of the state of the pandemic. We’ve learned that the CDC is making, at best, a debilitating mistake: combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus. The upshot is that the government’s disease-fighting agency is overstating the country’s ability to test people who are sick with COVID-19. The agency confirmed to The Atlantic on Wednesday that it is mixing the results of viral and antibody tests, even though the two tests reveal different information and are used for different reasons.

      *This is not merely a technical error. States have set quantitative guidelines for reopening their economies based on these flawed data points.*

    2. *COVID Timeline:*
      Jan 14th:) China announces that 59 Wuhan cases of COVID are scaled back to 41 cases. Apparently this the first misinformation China.
      Jan 21st:) First US case of Cornavirus.
      Jan 31st:) Trump bans travel from China. Biden calls China ban “hysterical xenophobia”. *(US had 6 cases)*
      Feb 7th:) Woodward, Trump audio is recorded. Woodward holds onto this info till his book is released in Sept. *(US had 13 cases)*
      Feb 25:) Pelosi talks in Chinatown in a very close crowd says “Come to Chinatown”. Deblasio has doctors say subway travel still safe. *(US had 53 cases)*
      Feb 29:) Trump uses the word “hoax” for Coronavirus, but his full comments, and subsequent explanation, make clear he was talking about Democratic attacks on his administration’s handling of the outbreak, not the virus itself. See Factcheck: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/democratic-ad-twists-trumps-hoax-comment/ *(1st confirmed COVID death & 70 cases at this time.)*
      Feb 29:) Fauci said: “You’ve gotta watch out, although the risk is low now, you don’t need to change anything you’re doing. When you start to see community spread this could change and force you to become much more attentive to doing things to protect you from spread.”
      March 9th:) Governor Cumo says: “This is not Ebola, this is not SARS, this is not some science fiction movie come to life. You know the hysteria here is way out of line with the actuality and the facts.” *(Date of Grand Princess cruise ship infections)*
      March 12th:) Trump bans travel from Europe. Biden implies that Trump’s European travel ban is xenophobia and won’t stop the virus, says “he’ll lead with science.” *(WHO announces COVID-19 a global pandemic)*
      March 12th:) Trump proposes economic stimulus action around coronavirus and asks congress to pass a relief payroll tax cut. *(US passes 1300 COVID cases & 38 associated deaths)*

    3. @Yugi Yami do you seriously blue that the Democratic Party of today is the same party? Everything is upside-down. Republicans used to have the morals of today’s Dems. Now the republicans have the morals of the kkk. get a grip.

    1. @Joy Phillips sooo, you think its ok to indoctrinate kids now? and you think thats is… what? a defence of the all trumps lies? An excuse for you to act like an animal? All it is, is more proof that you people have no morals and will brainwash children into your cult.

    2. @Gregory Malchuk you forgot the other half. “the flu kills up to 60,000 on a really bad year. So this is the same as that!” oh wait, this has already killed 200,000 and climbing, and that is WITH the shutdown and masks… Is your brain ok?

    3. @Alan aka FANG if the press meetings said the same thing then why are you disagreeing with him? are you just illiterate? cuz either you cant read or you cant form coherent sentences… or both…

    1. @lambchop1328 So who will the people perpetrating the civil war be going after; their fellow citizens who voted for Biden?

    2. lambchop1328 that Biden wants to defund the police. That it was sunny when he was sworn into office. That 99% of Covid cases are harmless. That Biden wants to prosecute people for going to church.

    3. @gilmanIII Absolutely not. Not even close. They will likely be on the steps of the Capitol and other government buildings. If Antifa were out there agitating, it will likely get ugly. But the fight is against government tyranny. Biden is clearly not capable of holding office due to his deteriorating mental fitness, and the media is doing everything they can to get this guy in there. Patriots see this as an attempt to install a puppet government for their own hidden agenda.

    4. @gilmanIII Regardless of who you vote for, a patriot will defend your life and your home at all costs. I could not say the same for BLM or Antifa. Now, if you out there throwing rocks and molotov cocktails at them, all bets are off.

    5. @Daniel Ingram Biden/Harris Defunding the Police:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFwospeEdjQ&ab_channel=TrumpWarRoom
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OWiRuJgtVE&t=111s&ab_channel=TheView

      COVID:
      99% of Covid cases might be a conservative estimate, it might be closer to 99.5% are harmless. Only 6% of the total reported deaths were due solely to Covid alone. Among the other 94% of reported deaths, there were an average of 2.6 additional conditions or causes of death. If someone got into a car accident and died and they had Covid-19 at the time of death, it would have still counted as a Covid death (although their face being impaled would have been listed as the primary cause). Due to this issue of comorbidity, it becomes more difficult to extract the extent of harm of this virus. Plus, there were likely hundreds of thousands if not millions of people that possibly contracted it and never tested for it, thus contributing to this figure.

      https://nbc25news.com/news/local/cdc-94-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions

      Churches:
      There is a consistent theme across the democrat party that belief in God has no room in their agenda. During the DNC, while reciting the pledge of allegiance, the words “under God” were left out in 2 different instances. Furthermore, in democrat-run states and jurisdictions the fact that liquor stores and casinos have been allowed to be open, but churches must remain closed is another instance. Given that this has only happened within the democrat party, and Hiden Biden is at the top, it is a fair assessment.

      Sunny when sworn into office…I got nothing…is this what really bothers you?

    1. This is in response to the fact that the CDC UPGRADED THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DYING DIRECTLY FROM COVID…. Now they are trying to spin the news that Trump might have had something to do with it…. YOU ARE TOO LATE MSNBC…

    2. ​@Joy Phillips is a russian troll posting this under every comment. Paid to subvert america. Dont trust the name. His real name is Sergey Vladski.

    1. @Joy Phillips Taking your last comment first:
      > Cant’t you read? Or are you just incapable of understanding what you read?

      O.K. now onto your first comment, (your request for a timeline for the Democrats):
      > Although the Democrats were not privy to the intelligence reports about coronavirus that Trump had been receiving since November 2019, Biden did issue a primary warning about the coronavirus in a USA Today op-ed he published on Jan. 27, 2020.

      But to give you a little more background on the history of the pandemic response preparedness of the USA, it should also be noted that the Obama administration did establish the Global Health Security Team in Charge of Pandemic Response Efforts in 2014 and that the Trump administration did disband Global Health Security Team in Charge of Pandemic Response Efforts in 2018.

      Here are some other actions the Trump administration undertook to dismantle government-spending programs related to fighting the spread of global diseases, according to Foreign Policy: Shutting down the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council. Eliminating the US government’s $30 million Complex Crises Fund. Reducing national health spending by $15 billion resulting in the CDC having to cut 80% of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was running out of money. Ultimately, the department went from working in 49 countries to just 10.

      That is, when Trump came into office the United States was prepared for a pandemic thanks to the actions of the Democrats back in 2014. So that is the Democratic timeline for you and it started well before January 2020.
      What do you have to say to that? – – – What is that I hear, CRICKETS?

    2. @Joy Phillips Obama is not the president.Trump is the responsible party at this time,but I forgot , he doesn’t take responsibility.

    3. @Joy Phillips He did know it, he knew about Covid when he went to India, which was in December or end of November!! So besides being a Traitor, he’s a Murderer!! He will be tried in International Court for Crimes against humanity!! He’s NOT human!

    4. @Mox Avenger Why didn’t he BAN travel from China during the HOLIDAYS!! He was a day late and dollar short, as usual. And you fools believe him. HE KNEW IN 2019, the lying POS, “downplayed it” and he’s still downplaying it after 200K people died for NO reason!!

  2. “To know what is right and not to do it is
    the worst cowardice.”
    Confucius trump and his cult followers are the biggest cowards since Nazi Germany!

    1. @Joy Phillips You already said that, Bot Dunce!!! How is Russia these days without Trump Moscow??? How’s the teenager that had a baby by the Orange one??? You know the PP Pageant girls??

    2. @Holger Touby Fear of What?? Ain’t nobody scared of these nut jobs. Let a Black guy show up, they’ll all be shaking in their Red hats and Cammo clothes, they’ll be easy to pick off!! Unless they dress like “protesters”, like they’ve been doing lately!!

    3. Yep, deceived evangelicals, racist, KKK, White Nationalist, White Supreme People and the GOP . This is the Trump’s base. He is set to please with whatever lies he has up his sleeve. He is pure magic with his lies to these people, and his projections to of his incompetence to his opponents and critics. I hear he is planning a coup? Maybe maybe not, but the military is not on his side anymore since they are suckers and losers in his clueless head. “Greater love has no man than this..that he lay down his life for his friends.” “A man with no love in him, does not know God, because God is love” Trump supporters or Trolls… Prove me wrong, with facts.

    4. @Joy Phillips is a russian troll posting this under every comment. Paid to subvert america. Dont trust the name. His real name is Sergey Vladski.

  3. If Trump refuses to accept the Biden when the gun shooting won’t be citizens it’ll be the US Military fighting Trump’s Nazi supporters

    1. @KATHRYN Jeanmarie If you’re going to be pedantic about it, you might as well get the facts straight: Adolf founded the National Socialist German Workers Party. And although the origins of communism and fascism are pretty closely related (google Mussolini or read a book), Nazism is clearly right-wing. Fun fact: neither fascists nor (at least Leninist) communists believe people can govern themselves: they need an elite to rule them. Ain’t that swell. Enjoy your Trump cult…….

    1. Not just airports, but Fighter jets. Somebody better tell the Wright Bros–Chump flew first!!! Over the Cuckoo’s Nest ( that pissy yeller hair)

    2. Science Knows solar cycles atmospheric disruptions occur…They know solar minimum is this era…atmospheric disruptions occuring..
      Go ahead believe man caused this..your choice..
      Ice ages occur due to solar minimum….
      Keep the world environmently clean has nothing to do with solar cycles..
      Clean environment is everyone reaponsibility…
      The solar cycles disregard …pretty strong influence

    3. @KATHRYN Jeanmarie Man DID cause this… As you stated its a solar MINIMUM, not maximum. We should be having an ice age. Instead we are having record temps year after year.

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