Venezuelan-American Voter: ‘We Want To Be A Loud Voice Against Socialism’ | MSNBC

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As part of County to County, NBC News Reporter Dasha Burns speaks to Venezuelan-American voters in Florida ahead of the President Trump's visit. Aired on 07/10/2020.
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Venezuelan-American Voter: 'We Want To Be A Loud Voice Against Socialism' | MSNBC

67 Comments on "Venezuelan-American Voter: ‘We Want To Be A Loud Voice Against Socialism’ | MSNBC"

  1. Diego Suarez | July 10, 2020 at 2:35 PM | Reply

    Beware Venezuelan-Americans. This president will lie to you. He will get what he wants from you. Then abandon you. You have been warned!

    • Diego Suarez | July 10, 2020 at 5:16 PM | Reply

      @Jose Dominguez Give him time, then he will do even less.

    • revolver guy | July 10, 2020 at 5:23 PM | Reply

      @theRev767 that would be nice but the politicians over the last 50 years have made sure that isn’t going to happen. This country is doomed without term limits and that’s not going to happen.

    • Kevin McNeil | July 10, 2020 at 5:37 PM | Reply

      @theRev767 Well move because the UNITED STATES has never been a true democracy WE ARE A REPUBLIC ….

    • @revolver guy that we can agree on

    • ursula mittmann | July 10, 2020 at 9:57 PM | Reply

      @Jose Dominguez you probably hope that he’ll start an armed conflict to get maduro out.that might be possible because he wants to be reelected.But not because he loves latinos and democracy.he just does what serves him best

  2. These people don’t understand the difference between socialism and communism. Neither does Trump which is why he latches on to the buzz words. Also, Democrats are not FOR socialism. Finally, the Republicans just handed out taxpayer money to failing corporations which is more socialist than anything I’ve seen so far…

    • @Peter Bills nyet comrade

    • revolver guy | July 10, 2020 at 3:16 PM | Reply

      The difference is one sounds better than the other. The reality is the US will never be a socialist nation.

    • @revolver guy A country that taxes people and uses that money for the betterment of all the people is already quite socialist, the same with schools, police, firefighters, armed forces, roads, your President can even order GM to make facemasks if needed, and that is a pure socialist move.

    • revolver guy | July 10, 2020 at 5:26 PM | Reply

      @Juan Fran I don’t disagree. That’s why this nation is doomed.

    • @revolver guy Nonsense.

  3. He’s comparing apples to oranges.

  4. Mellow Fellow | July 10, 2020 at 2:37 PM | Reply

    people are against socialism but they embrace authoritarianism. They would rather have a dictator than falling victim to that politicized word they cannot define.

    • Socialism IS authoritarianism. What do you think National socialism is???

    • @revolver guy these idiots know absolutely nothing. OP proved my point. Smh….

    • @I’m here A conservative nationalist movement with a healthy dose of populism on the side. You always seem to conveniently forget the “National” part, which is the most important, of the nazis. You are not fooling anyone.
      What has Trump done against Maduro?, nothing at all, and that is what really matters. How can Trump be against socialism when he cozies up to Kim Jong Un, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping?. No democrat do that.

    • Understandable why Venezuelan voters would be nervous about Socialism but if the people in charge are corrupt it doesn’t matter what their politics are. Trump is Corrupt

    • @I’m here By that logic, North Korea is democratic because “democratic” is in their country name.

  5. They came from a corrupt country. Socialism didnt ruin their country, the leadership did.

    • Protein Shake | July 10, 2020 at 8:32 PM | Reply

      @ihave35cents true, but it’s also true that but implementing some quasi socialist programs, we will not become a socialist country either.

    • Protein Shake | July 10, 2020 at 8:37 PM | Reply

      @KAY BROWN the proof is that there are other no socialist countries that are in terrible economic condition due to economic sanctions, the installation of puppet regimes, etc.

    • Protein Shake | July 10, 2020 at 8:39 PM | Reply

      Sorry Kay Brown, I misunderstood what you wanted proof for.

    • @Protein Shake you and I are on the same page np.

    • Protein Shake | July 10, 2020 at 9:09 PM | Reply

      @KAY BROWN LOL, my comment didn’t make sense anyway because of a typo. It should have said nonsocialist.

  6. I know Venezuelans, and they are against Trump. Don’t believe Trumps lies.

  7. For the umpteenth time Democratic Socialist is not the same as communism or socialism. People need start reading and inform themselves.

    • Jose Dominguez | July 10, 2020 at 5:04 PM | Reply

      Don’t worry my fellow countryman don’t even understand how the election work in this country you know popular vote vs electoral collage and the big majority don’t even vote we will get this men out in 3 month.

    • Thomas Benck
      No one in the US knows what socialism is, least of all the Bernie crowd. Having high welfare spending within a capitalist system is not socialism, it‘s European style social democracy, which is of course still capitalism. Socialism means the dispossesion of the owning class, it means the dictatorship of the proletariat.

    • @LV31
      no you’re wrong, communism means the dispossesion of the owning class not socialism

    • @LV31
      socialism is more focus on equality or control of the means of production and distribution in the community as a whole.
      which means more power to the people instead of private business

    • Thomas Benck | July 10, 2020 at 6:08 PM | Reply

      @LV31 No it doesn’t, what you’re describing is communism.

      Most Socialist and Social Democrat parties in Europe have, in the case of my native Germany since the early 20th century, made the choice to work with the system, get officials elected and try to effect change by legal means, not by revolution.
      That would also entail that as an original Socialist or if you will Social Democrat, you wouldn’t set out to “disposess” the owning class but pass laws that make them contribute a portion of their wealth toward the greater good. That’s very much an oversimplification, but we are talking about a sophisticated concept here, that believe it or not, has evolved quite a bit over time.

      The “dictatorship of the prolatariat” is an entirely Russian invention and is a lot more totalitarian in nature than any socialist or even communist ideas. Soviet intellectuals and ideologistst always justified it by claiming it was only a temporary solution until full communiusm could be achieved.

      What is being practiced here in Europe is not entirely the “free market economy” you guys in the states know, but much rather what we here in Germany call a “social market economy”, which simply means that we do sort of have captalism, but with a hefty dose of “socialist” stuff, like among other things, a state run pension system, unemployment insurance and most notably for you guys: universal healthcare.

      All these things have been around for more than a century, by now and not even our conservatives wouldn’t dare try to abolish that or cut it too much, so it has become a lot more than just “European style Social Democracy” as you put it.

      Sorry to have hit you with that wall of text, but you’ve rather proved my point and i do want to make at least an effort to try and explain my POV.

  8. The problem in Latin America is not Socialism or Capitalism, no, the problem is corruption, cartels running local governments, US involvement in supporting corrupt officials, the illegal sale of military firearms, lack of education and job opportunities…THIS is our problem in Latin America.

    • Kevin Loignon | July 10, 2020 at 3:56 PM | Reply

      You nailed it. It’s my argument all the time………

    • binjaygen muller | July 10, 2020 at 4:00 PM | Reply

      Then you feel at Home with Trump. Vote for him.
      +rofl³+

    • @binjaygen muller don’t get your comment but the only way I’d vote for tRump is if it’s a vote to incarcerate the mfer

    • ursula mittmann | July 10, 2020 at 10:01 PM | Reply

      alex medina I completely agree.And people still don’t get the difference in between socialism and social

    • ursula mittmann | July 10, 2020 at 10:11 PM | Reply

      And latin american leaders like in venezuela,cuba, nicaragua are the richest citizens in their countries.They just bleed and oppress their people

  9. Tormenta de fuego americana | July 10, 2020 at 2:40 PM | Reply

    Having the same healthcare system as the rest of the developed world is not Socialism !

  10. Trump’s Socialism just paid out loans to millionaire’s & top corporation’s while mom and pops places closed permanently. Many of these loans will not be forced to be paid back. What are a that called?

  11. Richard Thomas | July 10, 2020 at 2:46 PM | Reply

    BIDEN for President 2020 ………….. Trump for PRISON 2021.

  12. lol he dosen’t understand Socialism.

    Bernie gets it.

    • revolver guy | July 10, 2020 at 3:17 PM | Reply

      If you believe bernie and the rest of the commies you seriously need help.

    • @revolver guy u r the one who need help .. go to faux news

    • @asad bashir He just thinks Bernie will take his guns away. You’d think gun nuts would want free healthcare…more money to buy guns and free hospital visits when they shoot each other. 🤷‍♂️

  13. Anne Clausen | July 10, 2020 at 2:48 PM | Reply

    Maybe use a Scandinavian model? People are so ignorant of the world.

    • No Democrat wants to be like China we want to be like Scandinavian countries Republicans know that.

    • Then move to Scandinavian .my Mexican parents came to the USA because it’s the GREATEST Country in the World and capitalism made it that way !! your free to leave unlike other socialist countries.

    • Anne Clausen | July 10, 2020 at 6:11 PM | Reply

      @Jr Boy I live in Denmark. We are a social democratic society, with capitalist principles. Stop being stupid. Denmark is the least corrupt country in the world.

  14. That Venezuelan-American voter can’t tell the difference between Political systems and corrupt leadership/government and has the audacity to blame it all on “Socialism” clearly shows his blatant ignorance.

  15. I moved from US to a socialist-leaning country. The word “civilization” now has meaning to me.

  16. So is he going to give back the $1200 stimulus check, pull his kids out of public schools, and stop using inter-state highways? 🤔
    Asking for a “socialist.” 🙄

    • RabbitFooFoo | July 10, 2020 at 4:04 PM | Reply

      I hope he has an extra-powerful hose in his backyard so he doesn’t have to call the socialist FD if his house catches fire 🔥

  17. Ralph Christ | July 10, 2020 at 2:51 PM | Reply

    If you are saying that socialism destroyed Venezuela you are not smart, sorry. Corruption did, and that‘s what you‘re voting for.

    • ihave35cents | July 10, 2020 at 4:05 PM | Reply

      @Ralph Christ but socialism has never worked capitalism funds all the isms

    • Ralph Christ | July 10, 2020 at 4:08 PM | Reply

      ihave35cents of course that is awful. But it‘s the corruption of a good idea (public housing). It has nothing to do with the social or socialist idea.

    • Ralph Christ | July 10, 2020 at 4:16 PM | Reply

      ihave35cents I think a lot of people would disagree that the form of capitalism currently applied in the US is working. I prefer a social form of capitalism, like in scandinavian countries.

      Also: In central Europe Biden would be considered a moderate right wing politician with his views. To portray him as an old style socialist is ridiculous, don‘t you think? What positions make him qualify as a socialist?

    • Both Trump and Chavez are populist and those are never good for any country.

    • Ralph Christ | July 10, 2020 at 4:20 PM | Reply

      Juan Fran I agree.

  18. Maxime Prometheas | July 10, 2020 at 2:55 PM | Reply

    “Socialism” is not a monolith. It isn’t so much of an ideology as it is a system of governance. Corrupt leaders use the term of “socialism” as a Human shield to hide behind when they are robbing and murdering their people, but murder and theft are not components of the system of “socialism”. “Capitalists” hide behind the Human shield of that term to do unto others the exact same theft and murder as “socialists” do. It’s not about the system; it’s about who is wielding the power. Example: Donald J. Trump claims to be a “capitalist” and then uses taxpayer money to fund his golf outings while exhorting Americans to congregate in Covid-19 spreading events that eventually end up killing many of the congregants.

  19. Republican just recently stood silent when trump rolled in the military to silence protestors! Your last worry at this point should be socialism lol.

  20. What Americans call “socialism” is doesn’t roll an eye in most of the world.

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