‘We’ve gone past containment’: Experts call for immediate restrictions

'We've gone past containment': Experts call for immediate restrictions 1

 

Dr. Lisa Barrett says parts of Canada have blown past being able to contain COVID-19 in some areas and needs more restrictions immediately.

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62 Comments on "‘We’ve gone past containment’: Experts call for immediate restrictions"

  1. In 2018 we saw 9 thousand Canadians die of influenza. What did we do then to stop that?

    • @Tidbitthe needs of 99.9% outweigh the needs of 0.1%.

    • Call Me Ishmael | November 12, 2020 at 7:54 PM | Reply

      @Tidbit The correct number is that 8,511 Canadians died from influenza and pneumonia in 2018. Statistics Canada does group those two together in its listing of leading causes of death since they are closely related.

      Regarding your claims of supposed death tolls, take a look at the actual demographic breakdown of COVID deaths by age. It becomes immediately apparent your claims are fanciful nonsense. The distribution of COVID deaths by age group has changed very little since the start. In per capita terms the virus does not stand out dramatically either:

      23.0 per 100,000 — per capita rate of influenza and pneumonia deaths in Canada in 2018
      28.4 per 100,000 — per capita rate of COVID deaths in Canada in 2018 through November 11th
      35.1 per 100,000 — per capita rate of chronic lower respiratory diseases in Canada in 2018

      COVID is ahead of influenza and pneumonia but behind chronic lower respiratory diseases. For a disease that is supposedly super-deadly, I would have expected its toll to have far surpassed these other two categories.

      There is the further complication that the COVID fatality total is almost certainly overstated. Both B.C. and Ontario use a definition of a COVID death that is so broad as to be absurd. And there’s every chance that other provinces do so as well (not all publicly list the definition being used).

    • Call Me Ishmael | November 12, 2020 at 8:05 PM | Reply

      @Tidbit National case fatality rates, as per Canadian government data through November 11th.

      0-19 years: 0.01%
      20-29 years: 0.02%
      30-39 years: 0.04%
      40-49 years: 0.17%
      50-59 years: 0.72%
      60-69 years: 3.46%
      70-79 years: 13.53%
      80+ years: 28.98%

      National per capita rate of COVID deaths by age group, as per Canadian government data through November 11th.

      0-19 years: 0.02 per 100,000
      20-29 years: 0.20 per 100,000
      30-39 years: 0.33 per 100,000
      40-49 years: 1.33 per 100,000
      50-59 years: 4.79 per 100,000
      60-69 years: 16.48 per 100,000
      70-79 years: 66.15 per 100,000
      80+ years: 451.10 per 100,000

    • @Call Me Ishmael Complete fiction; nice try loser, your data is all false. What’s your source, or are you afraid to say?

    • Russell Zacharias | November 12, 2020 at 8:40 PM | Reply

      @Tidbit You don’t quote a source either. And without social distancing Canada would have lost how many? Numbers based on what and sourced from where?

  2. You let “super spreaders” go back to school. So obviously you don’t think the virus is deadly if your willing to put kids in harms way.

    • Where tf did you get the information that kids are super spreaders, you’re wrong on so many levels.

      Kids have been proven as not super spreaders like you claim, if that was the case, numbers would be skyrocketing, most cases are in the 20+ age right now, WITH KIDS AT SCHOOL.

    • Cole Soucy umm. Teressa tam said children were super spreaders… maybe you should take your high blood pressured diabetic rage out on her.

    • @Eric Poulos false, she’s never confirmed that.

    • Cole Soucy she did… that’s where the term came from… smh… just stop.

    • @JMAC LIVES The official statistics have around a 4% mortality rate. You not being able to do the simplest of forms of math may be why you want to avoid saying anything, to anyone, ever.

  3. The Marxist Media are Enemies of Free People | November 12, 2020 at 4:45 PM | Reply

    “Experts” That’s all they have say. “Experts say..” “Health Officials say” or the best one ‘we want to avoid overwhelming the hospitals’ and so what if they’re overwhelmed? you just got to work harder, maybe build a few extra spaces. but no. oh no. This is about destroying the economy just in time for their precious Solution, the Great Rest of ’21. Bank on it.

  4. The costs exceed the payoff. Shift to protecting the vulnerable. It’s time to go for herd immunity.

    • Elizabeth Hamilton | November 12, 2020 at 4:48 PM | Reply

      not for vaccine sales, they pay off big time… which is where i think this is all going. better support for vaccine means more money in their pockets

    • Call Me Ishmael | November 12, 2020 at 7:14 PM | Reply

      @Elizabeth Hamilton Yep. This is the 2008 financial crisis all over again, except this time, instead of billions of public dollars being gifted to the financial industry, it’s billions of public dollars being gifted to the health care and pharmaceutical industries.

  5. Gee so happy locking down the entire country and destroying thousands of jobs worked….

    • Atlantic Canada lives in a bubble at the best of times. The same degree of interprovincial travel quarantine would be near impossible in the economies that are the economic engines of the country. Atlantic Canada is not, and never has been. They can slow down to a crawl and the equalization payments keeps on coming. Take note that the only provinces that have implemented inter-provincial quarantine rules are Manitoba and the atlantic provinces. All on the net receiver side of the equalization payment balance. I can’t help but wonder if that’s more than coincidence, and the factors that Halifax doctor suggest are not being recognized are actually far deeper than even the doctor recognizes.

    • @Jim Trainor you are a far deeper thinker than me…

    • Call Me Ishmael | November 12, 2020 at 7:27 PM | Reply

      @Jim Trainor The Atlantic provinces won’t escape the virus forever. Sooner or later it will come. At least you’ll be getting the far more benign version than the one seen in the spring.

  6. Stand up against the experts. They have been wrong every single day since this started.

  7. Atlantic Canada lives in a bubble at the best of times. The same degree of interprovincial travel quarantine would be near impossible in the economies that are the economic engines of the country. Atlantic Canada is not, and never has been. They can slow down to a crawl and the equalization payments keeps on coming. Take note that the only provinces that have implemented inter-provincial quarantine rules are Manitoba and the atlantic provinces. All on the net receiver side of the equalization payment balance. I can’t help but wonder if that’s more than coincidence, and the factors that Halifax doctor suggest are not being recognized are actually far deeper than even the doctor recognizes.

  8. dr fauci has called for plasma from this who have contracted it as the immunities you created will be used in the vaccine.. herd immunity get infected save a life..

  9. More restrictions and lockdowns are needed. Anyone who cares AT ALL about our vulnerable and health care staff would agree

  10. Wilson Richard | November 12, 2020 at 4:59 PM | Reply

    Airports should be closed. It will never go away if they are open.

  11. Get out of bedrooms

  12. BAN all flights from Ontario to NS until they have a vaccine for Stupid for ONTARIO

  13. BLAH, BLAH BLAH, KEEP THIS NARRATIVE GOING , ;;;;;;;;;;;;; = ;;;;;;;;;CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY””””””””””””””””””””

  14. Look and lean from countries that are successful at controlling this virus.

  15. Locally at my location in rural Manitoba cases till last week 0. Last few days: 1, 2, 4, 7, 6, 15. It can get out of hand quickly. Half measures don’t work.

  16. Cases are growing while gyms and restaurants are closed. Sooooo. Where are my logical thinkers at?????

    • Still annoyed that they opened schools. I’m guessing you were looking for conspiracy theorists though.

    • @Pokarot Only schools that should be open are Elementary because of the Parents. Barring the Special needs, 7-12’s can handle it.

  17. Nothing has done more damage to the credibility of science, other than climate change hysteria, than Covid.

  18. Walmart to blame…..lol

  19. Past the point of no return,why bother,just keep it out of LTC.

  20. The fastest way to get rid of a pandemic is to let it run its course……..if it’s even real.

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