What's The Legal Reality For Covid Vaccine Mandates? 1

What’s The Legal Reality For Covid Vaccine Mandates?

Former federal prosecutor Cynthia Alksne discusses what legal challenges could arise from Covid vaccine mandates.
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71 comments

  1. Key word.. Selfish . The creator is helping with the cleansing of SELFISH hate. Nature is in control now . No matter what.. thanks momma, good cleansing coming

    1. @Nostradumbass … Your name says it all, punkin. Survival of the smartest, not the fittest. Where do you fit in?

  2. If we the majority of vaccinated people are put to risk isn’t that cause for concern as she said, it’s a threat to our health

    1. @Brent Pham Actually it means it’s not effective unless EVERYONE vaccinates. It would have worked except ANTI-VAXXERS LITERALLY CAUSED THE DELTA VARIANT. Vaccinated people generally don’t get original COVID, they get Delta. I am about ready to start an insurrection over the government’s FAILURE TO MANDATE THE VACCINE FOR EVERYONE.

    2. @Brent Pham By effective, experts mean that the vaccines greatly reduce the risk of hospitalization or death (which they do by 25 fold), not that they prevent all infections. The mRNA vaccines are about 90% effective at preventing infection by the original Covid strain, but are only about 50% effective (this number varies from study to study) at preventing infection by the delta variant. Even against the delta variant, PCR detection usually takes more cycles for the vaccinated, although this is not a perfect indicator of viral load.

    3. @Deborah Freedman if a vaccinated person get infected, they can also spread the virus to other vaccinated and unvaccinated people and increase the chances of a vaccine evading variant forming. People like Fauci probably don’t say this because he is funded by Big Pharma.

      The vaccine is very important nonetheless but not the gamechanger people thought it was back in November(Pfizer: vaccine 95% effective against Covid! (Likely misleading people to get as much gains in stock market as possible and deciding to disclose the finer details later and claim that “science changes” when called out as to why those details weren’t disclosed sooner)

  3. the legal reality is AMERICA IS A FREE COUNTRY you can’t force the vaccine on people who don’t want it…

    1. @Deborah Freedman no you are wrong completely. There is data from the nih and I’ve spoken to doctors and nurses and they verify this information. Not only that but the mRNA vaccine is experimental causes the immune system to respond aggressively when it encounters the actual virus in the real world. Stop believing all the fake propaganda thats being pushed these last few months to get you to think you know what you’re talking about. “Super immunity” your a clown ma’am.

    2. @Deborah Freedman no you are the liar spewing the b.s the media tells you as opposed to really reading , asking, and doing your own thinking. Start thinking for yourself instead of spewing garbage to try to discredit intelligent individuals who think for themselves.

    3. @Deborah Freedman also im 100% right about how ineffective mRNA vaccines are thats why you need booster shots. Prove me wrong with your small minded mentality.

    4. @Deborah Freedman 6 months is the approx. “Protection” you get. Studies from Jan 2020 show that natural antibody immunity lasted a minimum of 8 months and likely longer. You are so wrong its incredible.

  4. I have a friend who cannot take the vaccine so what happens to her in your world? Would she just be screwed? Would she have to take a test every couple of days? Would she have to pay for those tests? A lot of people say that we need to care about everyone else’s health but we also need to consider the individual’s health and circumstances.

    1. @George Carlin jr So you really think your intuition is more reliable than science and medicine? What is your education level? I submit that your intuition is a lousy source of medical information. Good luck to you and all who come in contact with you.

    2. Why can’t your friend take the vaccine? There are no allergies to this vaccine. There is no health condition, where getting the vaccine is more dangerous than contracting the virus. This whole idea of any medical condition that prevents vaccination is a falsehood invented by the enemies of this country.

    3. My dr said I can’t take it either. I guess we will be herded off into the ghettos and eventually sent off on box cars.

    4. @Matt Naslund The government will never lift their boot off our necks. Liberties given up willingly never comes back. They will come up with something new every year.

  5. All I took away from this was it’s ok to tax fat people for being fat and for weighing on our healthcare system.

    1. @Books & Gaming negative ghost rider. You are spreading false info and soon you shall be banned off all platforms and shunned from society

    2. If only people knew what their doing with Native American reservations and how they treated us in the past, maybe you’ll have an different view. But their is only one percentage of us left so how would you know?

    3. @Books & Gaming
      Absolutely. Finally a cure for the common cold.

      Long awaited by those selling it.

    4. So which is easier, losing weight or getting vaccinated? Even thin, fit people have required hospitalization, and even died from this disease. Go ahead lose weight, but if you really want to increase your odds of surviving, get vaccinated. And further, nobody got fat from coming in contact with a fat person, but plenty have caught Covid from selfish, unvaccinated morons.

    5. @Deborah Freedman you call me a moron yet I average somewhere between 15-20 miles ran in a week. And I’m physically fit outside of just the running. I eat rather healthy and take care of myself quite well. Who is the moron exactly? The one who looks after their health and therefore doesn’t need to be overly concerned with this virus or the other 80% of the population who rely on things like vaccines to protect them?

    1. @Billy Ray I see your picture and I want to inform you that gaiters are far less effective than cloth masks. Order of efficacy: N95 > Surgical mask > custom cloth mask > cloth mask > gaiter.

    2. @Billy Ray Conquering misinformation which is killing innocent human beings ONE COMMENT AT A TIME.

    1. @Books & Gaming people who have been vaccinated can infect others as well. Believe the Science, remember?

    2. @Books & Gaming Insane is doing the same thing hoping for a different outcome. This same propaganda machine flopped in the 76 swine flu vax but this time they’re not recalling the vaccine after 50 deaths, they just keep pushing it no matter how many die.

    3. @Crimson Queen Remilia Lock me up away from the vaccinated folks so I don’t get sick from their spike protein making factories.

    4. @Books & Gaming people have a choice if they don’t want to get the shot they shouldn’t have too, taking rights away from your fellow Americans, what has become of y’all?

  6. Cynthia: Please explain again how exactly are the unvaccinated a threat to everyone else’s health if vaccine works?? If it works, those who took it should be protected. If it doesn’t, why has it been pushed on people 24/7 for the past 8 months?

    1. ​@Happy Dee Name one sterilizing vaccine for humans. Good luck, only the vaccine against HPV comes close, and even it is not fully sterilizing. Your argument is totally bogus. Vaccines are designed to prepare the immune system against infection. And these vaccines do that.

    2. @Be Well First, children under 12 aren’t eligible for the vaccine yet. And children do get sick from Covid, they do die from Covid, and even if they don’t die, they can experience long Covid. The rate of hospitalization, for children with Covid, doubled last week from the week before. So don’t claim children don’t get sick from this disease. Second, older people, people undergoing chemotherapy, people receiving anti-graft-rejection drugs, and those with certain medical conditions, don’t have robust immune systems. Even though they should be vaccinated, they don’t get full protection. That is why those of us, with robust immune systems, need to protect them by being vaccinated ourselves. Third, the unvaccinated do get infected at a greater rate than the vaccinated, and do allow the virus to replicate longer in their bodies. Every replication cycle that occurs raises the chances of another mutation arising.

    3. @phil spd Yes, the vaccinated can shed virus, especially the delta variant, but they do so at a lower rate than the unvaccinated, and for a much shorter time span.

  7. “Unvaxinated people should have to pay more for their insurance.” Joke’s on you lady. I’m American. I don’t have health insurance.

    1. @Sammi Jane Morrison
      Whatever reasons you have, you shouldn’t be forced to inject a thing into your body that you don’t want to inject into your body.

      It’s a lie that it’s selfish to not vaccinate. An abusive tactic designed to bully those who don’t have faith in the shot.

      Peace to you.

    2. @Michelle Glo Of course it is selfish to remain unvaccinated. You are putting your own misguided ideas over the public health. Go ahead and tell yourself that you’re not a self centered jerk, but you’re wrong, you are.

    3. @Sammi Jane Morrison What utter rot! There is no medical condition that precludes vaccination. You’re just making up a false excuse, and probably aren’t even a US resident.

    4. @Deborah Freedman
      Oh. Thanks for the name calling and abusive language.

      You’re obviously much more enlightened than anyone who dares disagree with you.

      Take care, now, ya hear.

  8. Insurance companies made a killing in 2020. Tell me again how a lack of vaccines is going to cost the medical industry?

    1. Because there’s thousands of people getting hospitalized with Covid. That’s expensive and means my rates are going up. I shouldn’t be responsible for your stupid health decisions

  9. “Flying is not a right, and the case for restricting it to vaccinated people is straightforward: The federal government is the sole entity that can regulate the terms and conditions of airline safety. And although air-filtration systems and mask requirements make transmission of the coronavirus unlikely during any given passenger flight, infected people can spread it when they leave the airport and take off their mask.

    Corporate America Moves to Mandate Vaccines – August 4, 2021 at 5:30 am
    Axios reports that the following companies are requiring Covid vaccines for employees: Ascension Health, BlackRock, Facebook, Google, Lyft, Microsoft, Morgan Stanley, Netflix, Saks Fifth Avenue, Twitter, Tyson Foods, Uber, Walmart, the Walt Disney Corporation, and the Washington Post

    Vaccine Mandates More Popular as Vaccinations Rise August 6, 2021 at 12:00 pm
    “For example, Morning Consult found that 74 percent of already-vaccinated people supported company-mandated vaccines, while 54 percent of unvaccinated people opposed them. Interestingly, 28 percent of unvaccinated people actually supported mandatory vaccines.”

    1. You’re insane. That air filtration system would make flights into superspreader events. And I wanted mandates since the start.

    2. @Crimson Queen Remilia I agree with you about vaccine mandates. Clearly there are too many that are either to ignorant or selfish to do the right thing. But, the airlines all upgraded their air filtration systems, and they do scrub out the virus. I recently read a paper that showed even a home air filtration machine, with HEPA filters, can greatly decrease the spread of the virus in a room. And the airplane filtration systems are now, much better than a home filtration machine. Most airlines are requiring employees to be vaccinated, and they all require masks in the plane. You’re much more likely to catch Covid in the airport, than in a commercial aircraft.

  10. Yeah when you start suing all these companies for their stupidity because there’s no facts to back up anything that you’re saying then they’re going to change their mind, if our Judicial System starts doing their job and starts protecting our constitutional and our civil rights.

    1. The Supreme Court stopped protecting my rights when they decided religious groups are allowed to discriminate against my people. I don’t want my “liberty” protected right now, though, I WANT MY LIFE PROTECTED AND I WANT NORMALCY! That requires vaccine mandates on everyone, NO exceptions.

    2. @Crimson Queen Remilia you are responsible for yourself. You have to deal with your fear not demand others cater to it.

    3. @Crimson Queen Remilia you’re one of those people to Bible calls the simple, you will believe anything. You have what they call mental slavery because you don’t use facts logic or science to back up anything that you say. There is a large percentage of people in the United States that cannot take these vaccines because of allergic reactions, there is also millions of people who have already caught and survived this virus, their doctors tell them that they do not need the vaccine because the antibodies that they have built are stronger than a vaccine. So with your logic you just want to go ahead and vaccinate these people anyway no matter the risk to them, when the science and the facts backs up them not needing or cannot take the vaccines.

    4. @Crimson Queen Remilia I would really love to hear more about the religious groups that are discriminating against “your” people.

  11. IMAGINE IF PANDEMIC MANAGEMENT WAS AN OLYMPIC SPORT.
    New Zealand finished the Covid race with 26 deaths 1 year ago.
    China finished the race on 14 January 2021 with 4,636 deaths.
    America is still struggling mid way through the race with 632,641 Covid deaths with 700 more each day.

    1. America has the most anti-vaxxers. The countries that have done well against COVID all had strict rules for masks and vaccines.

    2. @Crimson Queen Remilia – Exactly. We just need stricter laws. Like in China, where if you disagree with the government, you get sent to the gulag, or just outright killed. That would make America great again.

  12. Where is the relentless criticism of Biden who is letting lambda variant into the country? If they have to show vaccine card, I guess voter Identification should be no problem. Since Obamacare, I don’t have insurance. I can’t afford all the Obamacare mandates.

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