Hear what expert thinks about DNA police found at Idaho crime scene

Investigative genetic genealogist CeCe Moore, who has not worked on the Idaho student killings case, explains the type of DNA likely found at the crime scene and the role it played in identifying the suspect. #CNN #News

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  1. Sharing this around for awhile because I haven’t seen enough people talking about it. The house was equipped with an ALARM! I don’t know if it was not functioning, or simply turned off, but please remind your loved ones that they should take their safety seriously. I’m not saying everyone needs to bar their windows and doors or NEED to install an alarm system.. but if you have it, use it! And every building has locks for doors and windows. An alarm going off, a few seconds locking doors, and a semblance of vigilance/awareness could have been the difference between life and death for these 4. It’s unbelievably terrifying that the killer had 3 potential points of entry that aside from a dog that was shut in a room there were absolutely zero defensive measures utilized when they had access to multiple. It’s not about being paranoid of impending doom, it’s about assuring that you can live the rest of your life with your parents/kids/family/friends. Tragedy is sometimes avoidable.

    1. For $20 a month, no reason not to have a home alarm with surveillance cameras. You can control them from your cell phone and if it trips, the company calls you. And you better give them the right pass code or the cops are getting dispatched asap!

    2. @MuttsRus🥰It’s not victim blaming, just a statement for others to plz be vigilant and more aware. I know college kids are horrible at that. Strangers in the house, etc. And nobody is getting through any of my windows. The alarm is so loud and annoying that it about blows your ear drums out! $20 a month for the alarm system with surveillance cameras. Totally worth it.

    3. @eatingketchupchips Just one more reason our 2A rights here in the U.S are so dang important. But an alarm system will let her know he’s there and where. There’s also audio and video and they dispatch the cops immediately if you don’t answer. Now someone needs to give her a gun and teach her how to use it

  2. Everybody who watches true crime knew this was touch DNA. That’s why I thought it wasn’t very strong on its own, like Cece. It allows the defense to argue some unlikely, but _possible_ coincidence. But with the rest of the evidence, I don’t think this guy has a chance.

    1. When you layer on the chances of any one individual having the combined combinations of circumstantial evidence statistically has to be infinitesimal. Say to the power of a Trillion/Trillion/Trillion. He has a Mt. Everest size pile of evidence against him and at this point his number one objective should be (if he is so inclined) is saving himself from LETHAL INJECTION which I personally believe will be the final outcome for Bryan Kohberger.

    2. @Dee Men Via various videos, license plate readers, and cell tower pings, the car and cell phone has been tracked before and after the crime, and even days before and after with very incriminating time and patterns that defy randomness or coincidence for someone who lives 10 miles away in a different city.

    3. There is always an alternative explanation that is possible with empirical evidence, so just because an alternative explanation is possible does not undermine the evidence at all. This is why it matters as to how plausible the alternative explanation actually is.

    4. There’s more DNA than just touch DNA. The knife sheath was his biggest undoing. That has his direct DNA and he left it with his victims bodies.

  3. Still alot of questions, how did he know which room his target was in? Or is that why he killed the other 2 because he walked into the wrong room? Was he carrying his knife when he walked past D.M.? Did he leave the sheath there on purpose to throw investigators off? I doubt Bryan didn’t see D.M. when he was leaving, his senses were probably heightened because of his adrenaline and the fact that he had just killed 4 people. His eyes would have adjusted to the dark by that time. I imagine at least one of the 4 victims would have screamed as loud as they could when they woke up to a stranger with a knife stabbing them or their friend/significant other? No one inside the house heard the screams? I still don’t understand why it took so long for the others to call 911, something isn’t adding up, did he threaten D.M as he was leaving again where was the knife when he was leaving, he didn’t realize he didn’t have the sheath? Its all so sad .. we all know he did it but im afraid there’s not enough evidence at this point to convict him of 1st degree murder.. I really hope I’m wrong

    1. @Michael Power Why do you think he cares about animals? You’re making allot of assumptions based on his so called vegetarian lifestyle. Maybe he hates animals so much, he doesn’t want to eat them. He perhaps ate at the vegetarian restaurant but that doesn’t mean he killed one or more of the women because they worked there. That may be how he first noticed them and decided to stalk them but the vegetarian part is very unlikely to be directly tied into his decision to kill them.

    2. Well, adrenaline can also give you literal tunnel vision. Since the dog was barking so much, he may have wanted to get out quick and was on a mission to leave quickly and went right past her. I think if he would’ve saw her, she wouldn’t be here with us anymore. His targets were innocent people so DM was just as much of a target as the other roommates. I think she got insanely lucky. Her and BF both. Maybe it was the dog that saved them just from the nonstop barking. Maybe we will find out later on.

    3. All of those questions I’ve asked , as well. With all those questions, how do you still say “we all know he did it”? It was a party house. How about if he knows the killer and looked at the person’s knife before? If it was him, they’ll find blood in the car.

  4. After hearing this, I have to ask why are there so many unsolved murders and rapes? No excuse if there is this much technology out there.

  5. Cece is such an incredible and brilliant woman. She’s given so many Does their names back and helped to solve so many crimes.

    1. @Rodney Boehner True. But I am glad they caught him. Now I would like to know WHY he did what he did…

    2. @Genética Forense Only he can tell us. From what I heard though, two of the victims worked as servers in a restaurant or bar. Maybe he spotted them, like Ted Bundy, at that establishment and stalked them out.

    3. @Rodney Boehner Poor young people. And he was a graduate student in Criminal Justice and Criminology… So twisted.

    4. @Genética Forense There are a lot of serial killers that have studied criminology or criminal justice, such as BTK, the Golden State Killer, Ted Bundy, etc.

    1. ​@Paul LevertonBut why are non english speakers watching a video in english ? Unless they are trying to learn english…if that is the case this would be a strange video to practise their listening skills.

  6. I appreciated the host being specific and to the point about what occurred and other details. Great interview.

  7. As so many people have already commented… she is brilliant! I also have to applaud the CNN interviewer for barely interrupting her, giving her ample time to fully explain the science and legal aspects of her analysis.

  8. I remember the first time I seen CeCe years ago. She’s a very smart lady. Her passion for helping families is amazing. The world needs more people like her.

    1. I don’t believe for a moment that a genealogy database cracked the case or had anything to do with the investigation. That was clearly just a smoke-screen and red herring to divert attention away from how they really caught this guy which the police don’t want to reveal or have the public know. Now, it has been confirmed: CELL PHONE and car GPS location data cracked the case.

      The genealogy analysis on the Golden State Killer took 2 years to come up with a prime suspect. This one only took 2 weeks to key in on a prime suspect.

      It’s pretty clear they knew he was the prime suspect only 2 weeks after the night of the murders from just looking at his cell-phone and car GPS locations with an established timelines on the night of the murders. His cell phone, car GPS locations, and location apps from Google are what really snitched him out and was what really CRACKED THE CASE.

      So after they got his cell phone data, they already knew who he was, where he lived, where he traveled that night, what car he drove, and from that information, they just closely staked-out his apartment for weeks collecting his garbage to get a definitive DNA sample from his trash at WSU and at the end from his parents’ trash in the Poconos to match what they had at the crime scene and using his cell phone as a ready-made wire-tap.

      Not even not knowing his license plate number (which he kept off the front of his car and later switched plates altogether) or turning his cell phone off before going to the murder scene were a problem, and they got all these security camera images of the Elantra at various location because they knew where his car exactly was at various times from that night from GPS location data pinging from the shark fin on top of his car, which didn’t need a cell phone at all, so they were searching for something they already knew everything about.

      They knew everything about this guy already, and they didn’t release his name to the public because they felt safe watching him very closely 24/7 with his cell phone as a wire tap, listening to his every moves using his cell phone mic and didn’t want to panic him to do something desperate (à la Brian Laundrie); however, they also wanted to know if anyone else was involved, so they decided to squeeze him a little bit by releasing only the description of his car to the public to see if he would do anything or contact any possible co-conspirators to try to get rid of his car.

      The police are just covering their tracks now on using this highly powerful, secretive but illegal NSA/CIA spy/intelligence weapon because they know it’s not Constitutional, not admissible in court, and they want to keep it invisible, like before, to criminals and the public so that the tech and telecom companies can keep spying on everyone all the time using this routine 24/7 sweep of everyone’s cell phone and GPS car location data with no one being the more wiser about it.

      This is how the police are solving many if not the vast majority of unsolvable and unsolved criminal cases nowadays.

      As for stopping him twice in Indiana, the FBI was already closely tailing him on his road trip using his real-time GPS locations from his cell phone. Those troopers wanted to get some intel on the guy, to see if he was armed and who his passenger was. They wanted to see if he was going to where more possible co-conspirators might show up.

      If you don’t believe me, then how did they know where to arrest him in the middle of the night at his parents’ house across the country in the boonies of the Poconos on a no-knock warrant? And how did they know exactly where his car was at all times in the arrest affidavit even without a front license plate and later when he changed his license plate? Answer: It was always his cell phone and car location data. (See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk3if5HaurM ).

    2. @Terry Donoho It certainly is about her. All of the facts/evidence of this case has been in the news. She’s just explaining what the evidence means to this case.

  9. Cece is incredible with just a small bit of DNA. I’ve watched a few of her shows. Thanks Cece for what you do!!!

  10. If you ever get a chance to see one of her investigations. Cece is incredible and explains the process.

  11. I absolutely Love Cece Moore! This lady is the best when talking genetic genealogy and familial DNA! ❤

  12. CeCe Moore rocks! Have seen her on numerous crime investigation scenarios and interviews. Very impressive woman doing stellar scientific work to help fight criminals.

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