Ali Soufan On The Rise of white supremacists: ‘Trump’s Comments Were A Bullhorn, Not A Dogwhistle’

Ali Soufan On The Rise of white supremacists: ‘Trump’s Comments Were A Bullhorn, Not A Dogwhistle’ 1

 

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Ali Soufan On The Rise of white supremacists: ‘Trump’s Comments Were A Bullhorn, Not A Dogwhistle’

99 Comments on "Ali Soufan On The Rise of white supremacists: ‘Trump’s Comments Were A Bullhorn, Not A Dogwhistle’"

  1. Trump certainly shortened his life, whether he gets better or not..he is in for a serious medical challenge. Darwin Award Winner!

    • I don’t believe he has the virus to be honest…its a charade to gain sympathy.. another trick to slow down voting process…i wish you luck people.,im outside looking in and can’t help…

    • WakeUpAmerican000s | October 3, 2020 at 9:41 PM | Reply

      @george mira – do you find it ironic that we taxpayers are now funding the impeached president’s care at a Government run hospital for our Military (i.e. a socialized medicine facility)? After calling American servicemen “suckers” and “losers” for serving in his administration’s Military, Walter Reed could be a dangerous place for him. All this while he pushes hard for the SCOTUS to remove access to healthcare for over 40 million Americans by repealing the ACA and having zero plans to replace it?

    • Factsthat Hurtfeelings | October 3, 2020 at 9:45 PM | Reply

      At least Trump will know what Nancy Pelosi feels like. A medical mess.

    • @Factsthat Hurtfeelings ooooh dig…lol

    • Colin Cleveland | October 3, 2020 at 10:18 PM | Reply

      @Keith Johnson – Shelby GT500 it would be, if we were living in the 80s.
      Reagan is dead, mate.
      Did you not get the telegram?
      Did noone send you a letter?

  2. Gabriel Fernando | October 3, 2020 at 4:13 PM | Reply

    Only Biden can adequately respond to emergencies for the country.

    • @ed taiwo Unless you support fascists, you’re antifa. Derp

    • Jillian Copeland | October 3, 2020 at 10:30 PM | Reply

      @Earl of Mar you really should get off those right wing news channels. Obama called a public health emergency on 26th April 2009 before people died and before W.H.O declared it a pandemic on 15 thJune 2009.
      https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/world/27flu.html

    • @Phinneas Bluster If you check out Dinesh DeSousa’s movies about Hillary’s America, Obama’s nation, the United States of Socialism, you’ll have all the certifications you need.
      The communist playbook for their takeovers was captured in 1772 on it’s way to France, which went communist in 1778. THAT book sits in the Smithsonian Archives, and you can find treatises on it, or just watch it in action in America now. If our people dont turn to God in fear of that dragon’s- regime, it’s going to devour every morsel of freedom you ever had.

    • Lol 😂

    • Phinneas Bluster | October 3, 2020 at 10:58 PM | Reply

      Tiktokovna Shkrebneid Horse manure! Trump 2020

  3. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸Biden & Harries 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸Black lives matter ✊🏿✊🏽✊🏼✊🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • Factsthat Hurtfeelings | October 3, 2020 at 8:49 PM | Reply

      Do you believe most democrats determine a white supremacist by there actions or just by there skin color. Most democrats i have met a white supremacist to them is anybody white. They don’t even understand what a real white supremacist is or what they do. They can’t be trusted as a reliable source.

    • Factsthat Hurtfeelings | October 3, 2020 at 8:53 PM | Reply

      @La Blue Girl you must be badly confused your not allowed to say all lives matter if your a democrat voting for Biden. You can only say black lives matter. Because that’s all that does matter to them and even they don’t matter sometimes. For example if a black kills another black nobody cares. Research the party your voting for for.

    • Is this cat von du using another account?

    • @Big Red
      …will cultist Trump supporters ever wake up to common sense? probably not.

    • Christian Xander James Yeo,, Christian,, Very cool,, glad you answered for him as he clearly was clueless.. so show me,, how is BBC more honest in their reporting than the “main stream media”. Any little example I can research would do because I TRUST BBC reporting.

  4. Southvalleyfox | October 3, 2020 at 4:18 PM | Reply

    After Ruby Ridge and Waco they whined and were allowed to run around loose and NOW we got a big problem. I hope we can solve ’em

    • The confederacy lost the CW whined; Tilden won the presidency compromised the election by giving it to Hayes in exchange for pulling the federal troops out of the south putting an end to reconstruction WS whined again.

    • You do realize that those were clean up operations for spooks, right? The tragedy is the innocent, uninvolved victims who are collateral damage, and the corrupted officials (politicians-including those in the military/agents) who never get charged (for prior crimes or the crimes in the clean up op) because they just eliminated the witnesses. These operations have cultivated and stoked the fires for what we are now facing. All they needed was someone to come along and “embrace” the ideology. They should be careful, because not only is he the traitor in the WH, he will sell them down the river when he’s done using them, just as he will his own children. He has no loyalty to this country.

    • They squandered a 400 year head start.

    • nothing on the rise of Antifa and BLM burning, looting and killing from MSNBC I guess. usual Liberal biased fake news

    • WakeUpAmerican000s | October 3, 2020 at 9:47 PM | Reply

      @ed taiwo – two proud boyz have already been indicted for killings up in Seattle. And we’ve already witnessed two other killings broadcast on national TV where white supremacist trump supporters traveled across state lines to incite violence.

  5. Trump’s without transition reference to “someone needing to do something about antifa” right after telling his boys to stand-by, stand back is equally problematic. Got to say it again–he wants war, but he has already fallen.

    • @Evangelia Hernandez so why does antifa have a supply van, flat beds, and uhal truck supplying them with food and riot gear.
      Why do they always have the green hat lawyers guild giving them free legal council.
      Why is the fbi targeting their organizers. Why does antifa always show up in force to every proud boys rally?
      Why do they alway wave their banner at riots?
      I swear you people are pure ignorance.

    • Trenton Foster | October 3, 2020 at 9:00 PM | Reply

      Calvin P because they fight AGAINST RACISM & a lot of people support people who are against racism….

    • WakeUpAmerican000s | October 3, 2020 at 9:52 PM | Reply

      @Calvin P – Anti-fascists show up at white-hate-group rallies because these neo nazi hate groups are pushing for fascism, now with full support of the impeached president 45, who himself is a wannabe fascist, openly desirous of becoming a dictator, an adored “president for life”, and eliminating the entire legislative branch of government that he still doesn’t understand how to work with.

    • @WakeUpAmerican000s dictators don’t lower taxes and let you keep your guns. Trump didn’t even give lockdown orders and left it to free choice. You people want beach walkers thrown I jail. I know this because I read your comments every day. You people beg for authoritarian gov.
      I bet not one of you can show me a racist act of proud boys or Patriot prayer. While antifa and blm burn down minority owned businesses.
      Ive watched every fight of antifa vs proud boys unfold. It’s always the same. Proud boys have the rally permits. They get searched by police for weapons. Antifa shows up armed and attacks them. You people argue from a stance of ignorance. You only know what the media has told you.
      Show me any examples of proud boys destroying property, blocking or attacking motorist, or fighting anyone other than antifa that came to their rally.
      I know you can’t do it, because I know a thousand times more about this than you do.

    • It likely will look like a war to YOU when the militias set out to stop the punks from burning down your town, your jobs, your home. Suddenly you’re going to wake up when the UN blue hats come to your house and take out anything that looks like a gun or knife, and probably your food supplies. Then you get to go downtown and request some food from fema, who tells you “take the Darpa gel in your right hand. It works like the mark of the beast.”

  6. Doo K’a Hań | October 3, 2020 at 4:22 PM | Reply

    Proud boys are a gang, call them what they are, a white nationalist gang.

    • @RogerM and by the way Chicago suburbs are one of the safest counties in the country run by democrats …the high crime rates are in the south-side ghettos ..the murder capital of the country right now is St louis’ run by a republican …republican run WHITE suburbs of the south are by far the highest crime rates when compared to New York..Chicago..FACT

    • Colin Cleveland | October 3, 2020 at 10:22 PM | Reply

      @don stroud Also, he is the lightest toned person I’ve ever seen claim to be black.
      Apart from that white woman who was a college teacher or something.

    • Colin Cleveland | October 3, 2020 at 10:23 PM | Reply

      @Earl of Mar Gavin MicroPenis describing Proud Bums.
      https://youtu.be/WCIrVox7rME

    • Strange Wayfaring Stranger | October 3, 2020 at 10:32 PM | Reply

      @Alex Phillips GFY.

    • ​@Cynthia Gonzalez Please flip Texas and get rid of those criminals Abbott and Paxton. The only reason Texas has a trifecta of Republicans is because of rampant voter suppression. Texas is the poster child for voter suppression.

  7. Standby
    It’s Almost like he is their Leader….😏

  8. The Proud Boys are Trump’s base. Now that is a problem. He is evil and they are evil. People who think that Trump saying sorry exonerates him from being a racist are cowards and racist themselves.

  9. Alexis Mitchell | October 3, 2020 at 4:50 PM | Reply

    He also, didn’t retract the statement nor say he meant something else. Donald knew what he was doing. Trump didn’t condemn white supremacy nor the organizations that espouse that ideology because they’re his allies.

    • Alexis Mitchell | October 3, 2020 at 10:14 PM | Reply

      Factsthat Hurtfeelings how ironic.

    • Factsthat Hurtfeelings | October 3, 2020 at 10:23 PM | Reply

      @CanadaGuy 1971 very true. They can’t address there own issues. They wouldn’t even care about 1960 racism if they fixed today’s problems in there own community. As a American I can tell you this must only be certain neighborhoods in America. Mostly the places you mentioned. I live in oregon and its great here. All races live together fine here. They are trying to take problems from certain cities and make it a nationwide issue. There is so much BLM protesting here In Oregon and I think most of it is to just show support for other cities that actually have a problem. They would burn down Oregon just to protest for another city.

      I don’t even remember the last time we ever had a police brutality against a POC here in Oregon. I would have to do some heavy research to even get a date. It always happens In other cities and then they try to burn down Portland over something that happened thousands of miles away.

    • Chris Matthews needs to apologize to the militia people who stopped BLM idiots from burning down half of the businesses in their town a month ago. You think they’re racist Supremacists until they save YOUR life from a mob’s fire bomb.

    • Alexis Mitchell | October 3, 2020 at 10:34 PM | Reply

      Factsthat Hurtfeelings I’ve noticed many of the individuals accusing others of saying “white man bad” make up an overwhelming majority of the people actually saying it. I tend to avoid *thinking* of other humans in such generalized terms, let alone saying it.

    • Factsthat Hurtfeelings | October 3, 2020 at 10:48 PM | Reply

      @Alexis Mitchell yes I just wish the news would stop running these type of stories for a while. Imagine the love and joy we could spread by running positive racial stories. Like the old black guy who cant go to the store so the white couple brings him food. Then there was a story about the blacks guys that helped the old white lady. They might sound cheesy to you but running those kind of stories changes people way of thinking. Inspires us all to be better. Nothing good is going to come from screaming white man bad all day.

  10. Proud Boys don’t belong in this country. Freedom for all and every human being is equal under the law.

    • Courtney Scott | October 3, 2020 at 9:45 PM | Reply

      @Lex Gaming Exactly, they’re way too dumb and stupid to know the difference and know what it really is!!!!

    • Courtney Scott | October 3, 2020 at 9:45 PM | Reply

      @WakeUpAmerican000s Exactly!!!

    • Courtney Scott | October 3, 2020 at 9:46 PM | Reply

      @Mike Exactly!!!

    • Well spoken I am from Australia America does not need those racist thugs. I have hallways respected America but I believe trump should go and live in North Korea if he loves there leader so much

    • Lady, the Proud Boys are mostly exsoldiers who fought for world freedom from fascist regimes. They did that without any “White Supremacy racism” being mentioned even by Obama. Who are YOU listening to? CNN? surely you’ve heard they only tell the truth when they brag about their salaries.

  11. Biden and Harris 2020

  12. It sure seemed to me Trump had that phrase “stand back and stand by” locked and loaded. And it also seems that the Proud Boys had their merchandise with the phrase ready to go awfully quick.

    • @joyce Loesch First place, militia groups arent necessarily “Supremacy groups”, they’re simply exsoldiers preparing for the street wars that are going to break out when the polls tell you that Trump won by a landslide, and CNN blacks out to avoid your knowing the UN just took over your town.

    • @Mike And he knows what’s going to happen when the liberals and BLM get the bad news on Nov. 2, 3, and 4. The lawyers arent going to help them. The firebombs will fly.

    • Oh look antifa blm tossing a molotov at riot cops. Wonder why no liberal media outlet coverd this.
      https://youtu.be/NX9CdNLcklY

    • @Garland Parks <==== nutjob.

    • You forgot all about Trump being the one who kept pushing for hydroxychlorquin to be made available to the public, but they’ve witheld it, and cite “side effects”, though Fauci said there are none. There may be interactions with OTHER vaccines, but death is fairly avoidable with that. HOWEver, this new antibody found by the Univ. Pittsburg is 100% effective, and no side effects, as it’s “all natural. What will be their excuse this time, for allowing people to die? I mean besides blaming Trump, or Bush.

  13. Juanita Holland | October 3, 2020 at 5:30 PM | Reply

    Stand back and stand by Clorox injection time. They’re lying this is the Republican hoax. Stop lying to us . 🇺🇸 Trump is not sick just wasting tax payers money. Probably have a golf course at the hospital. Time to hide slipped up .

  14. Telling ProudBoys to stand back, stand by or stand down isn’t denouncing them. It’s assuming leadership and ownership of the white supremacist group. The ProudBoys have already responded to their sharpie master accordingly.

    • First place, militia groups arent necessarily “Supremacy groups”, they’re simply exsoldiers preparing for the street wars that are going to break out when the polls tell you that Trump won by a landslide, and CNN blacks out to avoid your knowing the UN just took over your town.

    • Dude what trump said was facts.

    • They are united in their hate for this country.

    • mr ady and mim yay | October 3, 2020 at 10:59 PM | Reply

      The leader of the Proud Boys is a black Hispanic. That must be a first in the history of white supremacist groups.

    • @Garland Parks first place cnn is ridiculous… and the “militia group” in my town doesn’t give af about anyone’s color or military history, but we do give af about defending the greatest country in the history of the world

  15. Snaggle Toothed | October 3, 2020 at 5:45 PM | Reply

    Ali-Soufan-is-a-hero.-If-the-CIA-had-listened-to-him-and-John-P-O’Neil,-we-wouldn’t-have-had-9/11-happen-at-all.

    • What kind of hero doesn’t say anything to the American public or do whatever he can to prevent what occurred?

  16. Carol Pickett | October 3, 2020 at 5:53 PM | Reply

    He will not condemn them, their votes matter to him at the expense of the safety of Americans. He’s a traitor.
    Patriots, get out there and vote!!

    • Abtifa/blm has shot and killed cops, citizens, and even children. They have caused over a billion in insurance claims from burning and looting.

      What have the proud boys done?v

    • nothing on the rise of Antifa and BLM burning, looting and killing from MSNBC I guess. usual Liberal biased fake news

    • WakeUpAmerican000s | October 3, 2020 at 9:44 PM | Reply

      @Paul Wilson – after a lifetime of his own demonstrated racism, there’s no reason to believe the impeached president’s faux “condemnation” of his fellow white supremacists. Most Americans know that his hidden message behind MAGA is “make American White Again”

    • Factsthat Hurtfeelings | October 3, 2020 at 9:44 PM | Reply

      @WakeUpAmerican000s then why does he need to condemn them then. You sound dumb.

    • Pah, their vigilance will matter to YOU when the BLM brings their fire bombs into YOUR neighborhood and put you homeless on the street. If they bother to save YOUR home you’ll learn some gratitude real quick.

  17. Ruth: I pray to God I don’t see a Trump second term!
    God: I got you! )

  18. Lilly Fitzgerald | October 3, 2020 at 6:17 PM | Reply

    i can’t believe this is the USA!! The world is watching the assault on democracy through Trump and his thugs.

    • Trump isn’t the one committing voter fraud. Just keep turning a blind eye with your tail between your legs. https://youtu.be/TiVTm7780wU

    • WakeUpAmerican000s | October 3, 2020 at 9:06 PM | Reply

      @Calvin P – tell us about Texas Gov Greg Abbot trying to change the rules on mail-in balloting AFTER his state citizens have already begun to vote. Only the latest in a long history of voter suppression and cheating in elections by pre-stuffing voting machines. Your fellow republican’t party-before-country pukes are terrified of mail-in voting because it creates an indelible paper copy of EVERY VOTE, making re-counts relatively easy and cheating relatively difficult.

    • What assault on democracy..please explain..

    • You’ve mistaken BLM thugs for Trump’s employees, while they’re really Soros’ “revolutionary” forces, & are provoking a visit from the UN blue hats, and they’ll likely come in the fall when BLM and antifa REALLY get the firebombs flying, after Trump wins by another landslide.
      . The big secret is that they’ll disappear into the night once the UN shows up to start the new regime, the United States of Socialism. Too bad CNN didnt mention that part of the plan.

    • @WakeUpAmerican000s It happened after they found trays of Trump votes in dumpsters, before they’d set up some safety rules to insure some accountability, which has been tossed out with the ballots.
      You can count on both sides being highly interested in recounts, and registries being rechecked for fakery, which is already shown up enmasse, but strangely the discarded Trump votes found IN the dumpsters are authentic. But we know to expect that now.The liberals dont really believe they can win a fair fight. .I sure dont.
      Wayki wayki, sleepy sleepy. YOu’re on the wrong channel, you need to wash your brain.

  19. BIDEN & HARRIS 2020
    BIDEN & HARRIS 2020
    BIDEN & HARRIS 2020

  20. birdlynn hubbard | October 3, 2020 at 6:58 PM | Reply

    American needs to be better prepared and protected from presidents like Trump.

    • Phinneas Bluster | October 3, 2020 at 10:12 PM | Reply

      Mike Mike. Do you parents know you’ve lost your brain?

    • @Pink Freud agree 100%

    • @Ron MartinAz the Republican Senate Intel Committee did their own investigation into Russian interference and the tRump campaign connections. Great reading if you like the truth. Anyway, the Republican led Intel Committee handed down 5 criminal referrals. Don Jr., Kushner, Bannon, Eric Prince & Sam Clovis. They don’t just hand out criminal referrals for nothing, ya know. They even reported that Manafort was warned about tRump on video with Russian hookers. They didn’t get their information from the Steele dossier. They got it from intelligence sources from within Russia.
      “The committee’s findings regarding reports of “kompromat” of a sexual nature that may have been collected on Donald Trump during his various visits to Moscow are significantly redacted”
      This isn’t the Steele Dossier. This is intelligence gathered by Republicans in the Senate.
      “(3) allegations that an executive at Marriott International overheard two other Marriott executives discussing a tape of Trump with women in an elevator at the Ritz Carlton Moscow.”
      https://www.lawfareblog.com/collusion-reading-diary-what-did-senate-intelligence-committee-find#Allegations
      “The report describes hundreds of actions by Trump, his campaign, and his associates in the run-up to the 2016 election that involve some degree of participation by Trump or his associates in Russian activity.”

      https://www.lawfareblog.com/collusion-reading-diary-what-did-senate-intelligence-committee-find

      “A sprawling report released Tuesday by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 election laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Kremlin officials and other Russians, including at least one intelligence officer and others tied to the country’s spy services. Headline: “G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia”

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html

    • Really what did all the liberal President’s do to protect us?

    • @Jeff Woods not too bright are you? trump is the one who has let us down, Bush and Obama saw this pandemic coming from a position of logic, they prepared for it, they created arms a walls against it. trump, out of his sheer malice to Obama, discarded those defenses, even though he had been warned that this would be his greatest challenge. Scoff as you will, this is the trump Pandemic, he is its willful master. His claims otherwise ring false.
      When you’re in charge and your solution is to blame others for everything, it’s time for someone else to be in charge.
      Trump 2016: I alone can fix it.
      Trump 2020: I accept no responsibility.
      “The last administration left us nothing,” Trump said last month.
      But the St. Louis Post-Dispatch found that Trump’s own budget documents show the opposite ― exposing what it called “a lie of colossal Trumpian proportions.”
      The newspaper’s editorial board said the Trump administration told Congress that the Obama administration left it with everything needed for a pandemic ― and sought big budget cuts from the programs as a result.
      Trump’s 2020 budget asked Congress to cut the pandemic preparedness budget by $102.9 million, part of $595.5 million in requested cuts to public health preparedness and response outlay.
      “Obama left office with an unblemished record of building up the nation’s pandemic preparedness,” the newspaper said. “Trump systematically sought to dismantle it.”
      Trump has since blamed his predecessor for lack of personal protective equipment and testing supplies, saying “our cupboards were bare. We had very little in our stockpile.”
      But the newspaper said a chart provided by the Trump administration with the budget shows that by 2016 ― Obama’s final year in office ― the nation’s public health emergency preparedness was at least 98% on every key measure.
      “That’s by the Trump administration’s own assessment,” the Post-Dispatch said. “If the cupboard was bare, it’s because Trump swept it clean.”
      It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.

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