Concerns Raised Of Corrupted Data As Trump Orders Bypass Of CDC | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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Dr. Richard Besser, former acting CDC director, talks about the unusually extensive effort by the Donald Trump administration to politicize the CDC and the science and data with which it deals. Aired on 7/14/2020.
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Concerns Raised Of Corrupted Data As Trump Orders Bypass Of CDC | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

67 Comments on "Concerns Raised Of Corrupted Data As Trump Orders Bypass Of CDC | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC"

  1. Where tf are all the conservatives who scream about wanting less government control? Where tf are the fanatics always railing against authoritarianism? We are truly living in the upside down. They are trying to control everything we see and hear, like we’re China or North Korea.

    • It was all BS from conservatives, they just needed to feed corporations (their donors) who really runs the USA. The big government talk was just their excuse to have the middle class pay extra taxes with no services in return.

  2. Sounds like something hitler would do.

    • Football Nerd | July 15, 2020 at 10:18 AM | Reply

      It’s what Jim Jong Un is doing in North Korea. It’s what Trump accused China of doing. Now he’s doing it himself.

    • Putin is doing it too.


    • J Hawk Smith | July 15, 2020 at 8:30 PM | Reply

      Every day we hear something new like this. He’s out of control !

    • Sounds absurd and funny when that thing living in the WH keeps on yelling and screaming that China, WHO, Democrats, CDC, Media, Doctors and Experts are lying and hiding, at the same time he is trying every way to hide his college grades, his tax return for years and now the Covid-19 data from it’s own people.

  3. Claressa Lucas | July 15, 2020 at 1:59 AM | Reply

    As a 20 year CDC employee, I take pride that this administration is trying to discredit us. Obviously, that means we do a good job providing non-partisan truth.

    • Claressa Lucas | July 15, 2020 at 10:18 AM | Reply

      @Shirley Dye It’s not just Trump. Congress decides our budget. I’m not allowed to be partisan, but you should be able to figure out what that means.

    • StinkyPirates | July 15, 2020 at 11:07 AM | Reply

      You can pretty much rest assured that if Trump’s administration and/or the GOP in Congress are against you (a few choice names stand out), then you’re doing something good for the country.

    • Is there a link between Bill Gates and the CDC.??

    • Claressa Lucas Fair enough.. thx

    • Cdc has dropped the ball on COVID test kits in the beginning causing tremendous damage to us all.

  4. The CDC should ignore this “order” and continue to lead with guidance as we try to flatten the curve of COVID 19.

    • Mericia Nader | July 15, 2020 at 9:41 AM | Reply

      @o o jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja!!!!!! Oh man! Should i be hurt?

    • StinkyPirates | July 15, 2020 at 11:02 AM | Reply

      @Jordan – Sort of like how that gal in Florida continues to update her site with the accurate case information despite being fired for refusing to tamper with the data being reported.

    • Antionette Wilson | July 15, 2020 at 5:42 PM | Reply

      Hospitals should ignore this as well and keep forwarding the information to the cdc

    • @o o, I’m just gonna quote what you said here. I really can’t improve on it.
      “you’re incapable of critical thinking and I have absolutely no brain cells whatsoever”
      And the really funny thing is that you probably don’t get why it’s funny.

    • You still believe in the flatten the curve BS?

  5. He puts everyone’s life in danger including his supporters… and they still support him…


  6. November election postponed due to health “emergency”
    Dictatorship attempt coming
    it’s the only way trump & his gang stay out of jail

    • claire bigelow | July 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM | Reply

      he CANNOT delay or postpone the Elections… sorry

    • @claire bigelow in a national crisis event yes the president can delay elections

    • A.C. Patterson | July 15, 2020 at 10:06 PM | Reply

      I’d like to see them try that. You think the protests we’ve seen lately are gnarly? They’d be nothing compared to what will happen if Trump and his goons try that move.

    • claire bigelow | July 15, 2020 at 10:30 PM | Reply


    • @claire bigelow look again, under crisis situations the President can override Congress. Its in the constitution

  7. Christophe L. | July 15, 2020 at 4:07 AM | Reply

    Hospitals should simply refuse to do this. Period. CDC are the experts, not the Turd-in-chief.

    • Kim Cornelissen | July 15, 2020 at 1:19 PM | Reply

      lets hope the Trump administration does not threaten them with with holding medical supplies and funding if they don’t comply as they have done with schools

    • Just send it to both.

    • Cuckoo Phendula | July 15, 2020 at 6:00 PM | Reply

      @E. That’s what I was thinking at first too. What would stop the hospitals from sending it to both? I can imagine a case in the future where we’d compare CDC data versus WH data, and hopefully one of them would have something that obviously screams “sharpiegate 2.0”

  8. This is where Orwell’s Ministry of Truth starts and democracy turns into trumpocracy.

  9. DATING HARLEY QUINN | July 15, 2020 at 4:21 AM | Reply


  10. The only way Donald will take this seriously is when he and those around him are infected with the disease. Donald Trump is only about Donald Trump.

    • StinkyPirates | July 15, 2020 at 11:09 AM | Reply

      People around him are already going down with COVID and he STILL doesn’t care. His secret service, his son’s girlfriend, Pence’s assistant, several people in charge of the rally and his reelection campaign… It will take HIM getting it, and even then, bet there will be some nonsensical conspiracy crap like Hillary snuck into his room while he was sleeping and coughed on him or something.

    • Justice For All | July 15, 2020 at 2:33 PM | Reply

      They have gotten ill. He, like the trash that supports him, just doesn’t care.

    • Acinonyx Jubatus | July 15, 2020 at 6:19 PM | Reply

      Somebody get that lunatic sick!

    • claire bigelow | July 15, 2020 at 6:53 PM | Reply

      @StinkyPirates lmaoo….but but Hilary..its Obama’s fault..its Dwight D. Eisenhowers fault !!!

  11. The Dudes Car | July 15, 2020 at 4:39 AM | Reply

    Isn’t this just straight up criminal intent to hide their incompetence.

    • i think it’s very sad actually. i don’t know it’s the people who doesn’t wanna follow the rules or it’s the government faults. everything go back to normal now in my country but the doctor say there might be a new wave, so everybody still wear mask and it took only 2 months of lock down.

    • Jeffery chamberlain | July 15, 2020 at 9:32 PM | Reply

      no, its another of donnie dickstains executive priveledges

    • claire bigelow | July 15, 2020 at 10:31 PM | Reply

      @Football Nerd IN April..the Orange Blob said… this is now JULY..WHERE’S THE MIRACLE ?

    • Football Nerd | July 15, 2020 at 10:41 PM | Reply

      @claire bigelow He also said it in February. In fact he’s actually said it at least a dozen times over the last few months. He still said it on the 1st of July.

    • the CDC is incompetent… if your positive… and test a few days later positive… and again.. until your negative… THEY ARE COUNTING IT AS NEW CASES… tested 5 times = 5 new cases

  12. Casanova Frankenstein | July 15, 2020 at 4:48 AM | Reply

    Trump is insane.
    Now he’s starting to run the government like Hitler ran his government.

    • Casonova- that’s 45’s idol can’ t you tell. It baffles my mind how any person of color or Jewish people could support him. He’s a tyrant.

    • Chuncho Munoz | July 15, 2020 at 9:33 AM | Reply

      Hyperbolic statements make the best arguments, especially when they have no relationship to reality.

    • jane diamond | July 15, 2020 at 9:40 AM | Reply

      He can put up a statue of himself and Hitler along with the confederate statues he so embraces.

    • Football Nerd | July 15, 2020 at 10:16 AM | Reply

      Trump has already admitted to trying to slow down testing to make himself look better.

      Seriously, would anyone put it past him altering the numbers to make himself look better

      This is the guy who drew on a hurricane path to make it look like it was gonna hit Alabama.


  14. black ringobagel | July 15, 2020 at 5:08 AM | Reply

    And hitler has reinvented itself in America’s time of utter weakness starting in 2016 with Russian backed election of trumps Republican Party

  15. Mikael Holmgren | July 15, 2020 at 5:29 AM | Reply

    Trump and his administration has become a criminal enterprise!! Anti science , anti truth!!!

  16. Craig Crawford | July 15, 2020 at 6:09 AM | Reply

    And republicans still do absolutely nothing with this corrupt and blatantly immoral president!

    • Antionette Wilson | July 15, 2020 at 5:47 PM | Reply

      Why aren’t Republicans going to the white house to demand he and pence Resign, like they did with Nixon???

    • Craig Crawford | July 15, 2020 at 5:50 PM | Reply

      @Antionette Wilson Because Trump is the useful bloviating ignoramus and blatantly immoral person republicans have been waiting for, that’s why. .

    • @Craig Crawford Exactly. Never can find anyone who is more idiotic, incompetent ‘ thing ‘ that is so easy to control. Once Republicans ignore and just let it do whatever to please it’s own ego. everything is all in their hands.

  17. Trump just today blamed for concealing the truth of this virus, now he wanna manipulate the figures himself? Is he Donald Xi or Trump Jin Ping?

  18. Clemons Kunkel | July 15, 2020 at 6:50 AM | Reply

    Putin loves Trump. Look who is killing Americans. Trump and Putin and Republicans

  19. Kimberly Galanti | July 15, 2020 at 9:19 AM | Reply

    We, the American people DEMAND the data be sent to the CDC.
    If he wants copies…fine.

  20. Canada here: Sorry but this is yet another reason why we’re NOT letting you cross the border for a while. A while is beginning to look like forever.

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