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Coronavirus hot spots emerge as states move to lift restrictions and open economies, ahead of reaching public health benchmarks. Aired on 5/21/2020.
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Fears Rise Over Emerging Hot Spots And A Second Wave | Deadline | MSNBC

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  1. Blame rests with leadership. We have a child as president who is incapable of doing anything other than serve himself. So, blame rests with leadership, and the US has no leader at the top.

    1. @Donavan Grant They are all in for the grift and 45* provides them seemingly infinite cover fire with grift of his own.

    2. Terry Chadwick Why don’t you go get your daily dose of Fox News and stop coming here

    3. Yes, but let’s not forget the Looney tunes that won’t wear their fricking masks! 😠😠😠

    4. I agee, when the first case was identified in the US, it became Trump’s problem. Its all on his watch.

  2. The second Covid-19 wave is coming, folks. Trumpanzees are panic-buying Lysol and Clorox.

    1. @Geo Pipe69 Good now go out and attend some trump rallies. Hug and kiss all your like minded friends. I am so happy for you.

    1. @be youR owN GuRu Hon he proposed a cut in the growth of social security from 8.3% to 8%. Only in America is growing a social program by 8% considered a cut.

      Your marbel brain must sound like a can of spray paint in your vacuous head when you walk. I feel annoyed for your loved ones.

    2. @Kevin Lopez Careful Kevin. The trumpanzees are all spun up tonight, they might start flinging their poop around. 2020! McDonald’s And Golf Again!

    3. @Aaron Thomas Johnson China makes all the stuff we buy at Walmart! China good. Where’s my Trumpvirus money?!?

    4. @Aaron Thomas Johnson What, is it training day at the troll farm? You need retraining on you English there Johnson.

  3. Conversation at the white house?
    Isn’t that an oxymoron?
    Shut the madman down VOTE for our lives.

  4. The dirt bag president has already said that we will not shut the country down when a second wave hits. We are basically all screwed.

    1. @Li Zhao Just don’t let him near your kids, especially little girls. He has an affinity for them.

    2. @Minnie Minosa Children(even grown up ones) need adults to supervise and provide. Isolating themselves without having the government tell them to would require them making an adult decision on their own. They are nowhere near ready for that…

    3. @Minnie Minosa To put it as simply as possible, people are stupid that is why government is needed in the first place.

    4. @MJB For Trump Ok tell us in the history of disease outbreaks name one disease that did not have a second wave that was not stopped by doing something.

    1. I know, I just meant that he thinks being tested that morning, makes him safe to not wear a mask all the time. Lol

    2. Testing means nothing if not done daily. A logistical impossibility given our population. Face it folks. At some point , you’re going to have to grow some Kahunas and emerge from your hidey hole…

    3. @turfxpert If contact tracing and identification is done weekly, that is enough to stop the virus. Testing only needs to be done occasionally, or as needed.
      Contact tracing, identification, and math, can stop the virus. Testing _does not_ need to be done daily.

    4. It sounds like he’s confusing a test for a vaccine. It helps to have basic knowledge.

  5. Don’t forget, no major US company has filed for bankruptcy more than Donald Trump’s so called casino “empire”, due to his mismanagement. Think about it. Our nation could be next to file for Chapter 11, and this time America will pay with American lives due to the same mismanagement. I’m just sayin’.

  6. This shows how important a leader is. Korea was able to get a handle on this crisis because people had confidence in their president and the government and cooperated.

    1. @mtronix Unfortunately little testing happening in India, Indians want to be like America , while Americans are becoming like India

  7. If Trump were the leader of a poor 3rd world country the United States would sanction and threaten invasion to “liberate” their citizens

    1. We would be feeling very bad for those poor people dealing with a tyrant..hearing about all the corruption and watching his horrible behavior and watching he and his lackey’s run the govern into the ground…instead we are talking about ourselves in the United States!

    2. If we don’t get Trump out of office he will be the leader of a third-world poor country! Ours!

    3. @David M – “don’t worry Trump and America will be here to help you out when you need us.” wasn’t there for puerto rico.

    4. Kawaii Potato the Caribbean is rich compared to sone of the poorest regions of the world
      No one routinely starves in the Caribbean to my knowledge

  8. Oops trump didn’t want us to know the current numbers. However he already said it’s acceptable!

    I just heard him say he won’t no matter what close again….so no worries!

  9. America: Large cities seem to have the outbreak under control.
    Coronavirus: Darn it. I love city spots.
    America: But rural areas are not prepared.
    Coronavirus: Country buffet it is! Let’s go fellas!

    1. Actually, there is no science that proves that the lockdown has worked. We’ve been in lockdown for multiple months now and we’re still at a million cases. The problem with lockdown is that you can’t COMPLETELY lockdown!

    2. Brady N it’ limits the contact you have with others so that decreases the chances of getting Corona virus 🦠 so if you look at numbers it’s working especially for my county I live on a beach which is main tourist spot Without lockdown my county would Have so many cases you would have people from all states in one place without lockdown

    3. @Brady N There was no lockdown plan that has been part of a nationwide plan by this administration. Because it has been left up to individual states to construct their own one, all coordination on preventative measures have been a total failure

    1. I thought it was Cuomo that sacrificed the elderly by throwing Covid patients in Nursing Homes. Anything to up his numbers. ..

    1. MJB For Trump
      That needs to be at 70%+ & even then there’s no evidence it’s going to work. Test, track, isolate every case, & that means everyone. Too late now if all states are going to open up. Silent spreaders are going to be everywhere.

    2. MJB For Trump they don’t know yet if there will be herd immunity, not every virus does and even when it does sometimes the immunity isn’t permanent. Until the scientist figure this out, which will take time social distancing is the best protection.

    3. @MJB For Trump You know how you get to herd immunity? A population needs to reach a *bare minimum* of 40% of recovered cases to begin seeing a slow down in transmission. Meaning you’d need at least 131,280,000 Americans to fall ill, survive, and develop antibodies to the disease.
      America is currently reporting a paltry 1,577,140 cases of Covid-19, with miserable testing results, faulty reporting, and an unknown number of people who could have already contracted the disease and suffered no symptoms. So you know what, I’ll be generous, and say that 10X that number have already been infected and were the fortunate ones to be asymptomatic. That gives you a guessed number of 15,771,400 Americans who were or are active cases for the novel coronavirus. That is just 4.8% of the population, meaning you’ve got to get 115,526,400 more people infected by this virus in order to approach herd immunity.
      That could mean that even with an average death rate of 1.5%, that would be 1,732,896 Americans dead. But wait, because that number is assuming that the rate of transmission is still slow enough that hospitals are able to keep pace with the number of patients arriving with severe symptoms, which is reportedly between 10-14% of all cases. That would mean anywhere between 173,000 to 242,000 people could require urgent care. Not exactly a manageable volume of patients all requiring nasal specs, oxygen tanks, ICU beds, and ventilators, especially when American hospitals are operating at or near capacity.
      Now, let’s assume you just let people back out of their shelter-in-place orders, and open businesses, and by waving a magic wand every person who was fired or laid off was magically able to get their pre-pandemic job back. Nice, right? Well, that herd immunity margin of 40% could be reached in about a month assuming an R0 of 4.5 (that means 1 infected person is responsible for infecting an average of 4.5 people) with an incubation period of 3 days (how long it takes for an infected person to become contagious). That means you’d have hundreds of thousands of patients all crashing down on hospitals across the nation about 6-8 weeks after the first round of communal spread. The health care system is not. designed. for this.
      So guess what, patients show up, there’s not enough beds, and due to your age or your preexisting conditions, you may be turned away, left to fight off the pneumonia that’s settled into your lungs. And it doesn’t end there; every other patient waiting to have elective surgery, lifesaving operations, critical treatments for chronic disease, or emergency treatment or resuscitation can’t get the medical attention they need, either. As a devastating result, you’ll get even more people dying from non-covid deaths because their care couldn’t reach them in time.
      But by all means – lead the charge and help everyone get to that 40% threshold.

  10. I did some math. Good example in handling the crisis : Germany. Angela Merkel has a scientific background (doctor in physics) immediately saw the danger, reacted swiftly, informed the population and together with an excellent medical system could contain the pandemic. Multiplied to the bigger population in the US, this pandemic could have been contained to around 30.000-35.000 deaths if immediate and just measures had been taken. Now it will be five fold (around 150.000) and with reopening certain economies too soon, I foresee 200.000 deaths in the foreseeable future. With this nightmare of a president it’s like Murphey’s law : “everything that can go wrong, will go wrong”. I wish the american people lots of courage, strength and perseverance when they are going through this ordeal. Please vote this evil man out in November!

    1. @White Candle How can the MSM block anything. They are news organisations. How can the democrats block anything? The president has full control of the federal government. Give specifics. I know that cultists do not put any faith in details or facts, but give it a try. Waiting!!!!!

    2. Merkel has a doctorate in Quantum Chemistry, not Physics. As I am a person with undergrad degrees in both chemistry and physics, Merkel impresses the heck out of me

    3. NZ: population 5 million. Covid fatalities: 21. Prompt action, teamwork, cohesion, no flag waving gun toting halfwits squealing about a loss of “freedom”.
      If the USA had the same result with a population of 320 million it would have around 1,400 deaths today. Stupidity, greed and ignorance is responsible for the needless deaths of over 90,000 Americans.
      American “Exceptionalism?” more like moronism. It’s the same anti-science stupidity that drives American climate science denial. Hard to feel any sympathy.

    4. @Jim Battersbee Why are you responding to me? I’m just a peaceful innocent mathematician

    1. Brian Hesse hey Comrade…between me and you…youre dyin here, bruh.

      Take the “L” and maybe try to make Russia Great Again?

      😉🇺🇸🇺🇸

    2. @Brian Hesse Trump brought death and unemployment too. That’s sort of a big part of it. No thanks. Joe Biden 2020.

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