From Trump’s War Failures To Who Killed JFK, Oliver Stone Weighs In On 2021 1

From Trump’s War Failures To Who Killed JFK, Oliver Stone Weighs In On 2021

 

Acclaimed filmmaker, cultural icon and veteran Oliver Stone joins MSNBC’s Ari Melber in this special, wide-ranging interview to discuss his new book, the rising wealth gap in America, COVID conspiracy theories, the withdrawal from Afghanistan and more. (This interview is from MSNBC’s “The Beat with Ari Melber, a news show covering politics, law and culture airing nightly at 6pm ET on MSNBC. ).

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40 comments

    1. To the military industrial complex who run our country, with the president being an empty suit, afghanistan was great. they made a fortune and all it cost americans was a tril or so, and oh yes, a few hundred lives.

  1. George W. Bush did as much damage to America as Osama bin Laden,
    down to the numbers – 3K Americans killed (+Iraq), Trillions of $ wasted.

    1. @Morgrim is that sarcasm? The CIA conducts all terrorism on earth its always been that way. That’s why JFK said “I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind.”

  2. My friend Cole got blown up in Afghanistan. Cole was in the Canadian military, Cole was there because we were supporting the U.S. military after 9/11. Cole died for nothing and it really really hurts.

    1. @Christian 153 He didn’t. That’s the point. This was why Trump wanted us out of this stuff. This is why Washington warned us to stay out of this stuff. We are WAY better than this. You become who you hang out with.

    2. @Christian 153 That’s because 9/11 was an anomaly. 5,000 people died in a tower in New York and it changed your entire way of life. And they spent trillions in Afghanistan and Iraq.

      Just like now – with COVID, selfish politicians and ambitious men and women are taking advantage of your weakness. And your job is not to feel safe. It’s to be a responsible citizen and call BS when it’s your job to call BS – which is ALWAYS. When you don’t WE ALL SUFFER.

    3. @Christian 153 And by the way, you hadn’t had a major terrorist attack on US soil in the previous 40 years prior. Does that mean Afghanistan worked? JESUS HORUS CHRIST.

    4. Never back up the yanks again
      They are clueless Afghanistan is the 3rd defeat caused by supporting a corrupt regime that the peaple won’t fight for lebanon and Somalia a bloody nose and they run away
      The USA is the frend you invite to a party he smashes the place up and doesn’t see the problem

  3. In the end, it’s sanity vs insanity. The rest is just circumstantial. Such has it always been. Only the technology has changed.
    Too many humans. Not enough Planet.

    1. Perhaps, enough planet if all of the too many humans assumed responsible and sustainable ownership and management.

  4. Over the centuries and even thousands of years, different parts of the world evolve differently.
    The US use its military superiority to impose their ideology on others is self-righteous and arrogant.
    It has resulted in the misery and deaths of millions of people all around the world.
    Will they ever learn?!

    1. You are funny the USA has not won a war since 1945 excepting Panama Grenada and Kuwait

  5. WOAH they let Oliver Stone back on MSM. HA HA HA
    He said “THAT’S OF SURE”. Yea the MIC learned how to make money longer. 20 year wars. Every war since WWII has been a failure.

  6. Great interview worth watching for those to learn about Oliver Stone and his insights to US war and propaganda makes the world a more dangerous place.

  7. “ War is rich old men protecting their wealth by sending middle class and lower class young men off to die. It always has been …. George Carlin ”

    1. @Thomas De Quincey …. I believe Carlin was referencing , Korea , Vietnam and the Iraqi wars dude . Not WWII . I’m aware many Hollywood celebrities saw combat action , ( Clark Gable , Jimmy Stewart , Charles Bronson , Lee Marvin , Ernest Borgnine , Paul Newman , Kirk Douglas and Captain Kangaroo , to name a few ) including prominent politicians sons like Theodore Roosevelt Jr. and JFK . Even Elvis Presley served his country , unlike the mango carnival barking draft dodger .

    2. @barry macochener no he wasn’t, he was talking about all wars! You name an handful of actors etc who at the time weren’t that famous or hadn’t yet found fame and those that were didn’t have the wealth of today’s Hollywood actors. The sons of the wealthy and politicians were automatically given top jobs and weren’t fighting on the front lines like the boys and men that were poorest, they have always been the cannon fodder! Yes there was the handful from wealthy backgrounds that chose to go to war but the poor never got to choose, like Trump their daddy’s bought their way out.

    3. @Jillian Copeland …. It’s probable Carlin might have been referring to ALL WARS . ( subject to interpretation from where I sit ) Given that most folks are not historians or military strategists , yet they can reasonably grasp 20th century conflicts . However the fundamental reasons for war haven’t changed since records were kept . What I do agree with is many of Carlin’s observation , which were spot on and accurate . ” A Rich Man’s War , A Poor Man’s Fight ” …. but as pointed out , a few wealthy and affluent did step up during WWII , not since then though . Presley being the exception and that was way back in the mid 60’s .

  8. I think the problem with war, since WW2, is that in spite of the US military power, conventual warfare is no longer viable in the long run because a third word war in impossible to win. In such a world war, any power finding itself losing will use it’s nuclear weapons and the very threat of that makes using military to accomplish any ends is obsolete.

  9. I loved how Melber didn’t get Stone to say what he wanted him to say in the end, about conspiracy theories. How media is pushing this issue all the time, are really part of the problem about how so many are distancing themselves from official narratives, and start believing in crazy stuff.

  10. Another, on average 400 year war in the Middle-East! So far: 40 years of war in Afghanistan, and the Afghan men still won’t fight the Taliban! Only 360 years remaining of the Afghan men running from the Taliban!

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