Soboroff: Latest ICE Scandal Shows Systematic Lack Of Oversight | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Jacob Soboroff, MSNBC correspondent and author of "Separated," talks with Rachel Maddow about how the whistleblower scandal claiming unnecessary medical procedures were performed on ICE detainees is symptomatic of a larger problem of lack of oversight in the agency. Aired on 09/15/2020.
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  1. The international press is reporting this as “forced sterilisations in US concentration camps” Are they wrong? What have we become?

    1. A fractured nation lead by Trump.
      A shambles of what America was before he took office.
      Trump loves his dictators.
      I think he hopes to grow up to become one.
      Two terms wouldn’t be enough for him apparently.
      It really is pitiful what one man and his cronies have done to America.
      This should be a lesson to Congress on what loopholes need to be filled in the Constitution.
      Problem is that the “right” are apparently down with the plan to destroy America.
      You know, because they are “right”, and, to them, that means everyone else is wrong/immoral/deceitful/evil/against God/etc. You name it. If you aren’t “right” then you are a bad, bad person.
      So we can’t hope for anyone on the “right” to correct any of the issues.
      The “right” has to undermine America in order to remain in power. It’s their only option at this point.
      They haven’t won the popular vote in a Presidential election in decades.

  2. After the atrocities in Germany in the 30s and 40s, many thought “That could never happen here”. Incidentally, I read that Hitler also pretended to be pro-life to get support, whilst enforcing abortions on minorities.

  3. Trump is destroying America in front of the world, he is doing everything his minion Pompeo accused other nation guilty of

    1. Steve Miller and Trump ordered the hysterectomy so they could not give birth to kids in America and create American born citizens

  4. So we can now add human rights crimes to the long list of crimes and horrors that the Trump administration has committed.
    It’s a never ending pattern of lies and lawlessness.

    If we added up the anti-democracy maneuvers of the prior 10 presidents over the past 60 years, they wouldn’t equal Trump alone in under four years—indeed, if you compare the eight close associates of Trump convicted or indicted in his almost-one term of office, that would again exceed those of all presidents combined (excepting Watergate felons) from Kennedy to Obama..

    • Replacing the rule of law with the law of rule—courtesy of Bill Barr—as accused allies receive pardons and praise while enemies are threatened with arbitrary prosecution.

    • Engaging in multiple obstructions of justice, such as firing FBI director James Comey and urging White House counsel Don McGahn to lie to Mueller.

    • Basing an entire convention on himself—no platform, Trumps proliferating like Borgias—and on the daily violation of the anti-monarchical Hatch Act because “no one cares,” according to apologist Mark Meadows.

    • Worsening economic inequality by shifting trillions through tax breaks to “American Oligarchs,” in Andrea Bernstein’s useful phrase, who then gratefully support his assaults on environmental and consumer laws to make even more money.

    • Inciting violence by hyperbolic attacks on opponents, embracing neo-Nazis while ignoring warnings from the FBI about the number-one domestic threat, right-wing violence.

    • Enthusiastically embracing many of the world’s leading dictators—Putin, Xi, Bolsonaro, Kim Jung Un, Sisi, Duterte, Erdogan.

    • Repeating Covid-19 falsehoods in order to pressure Republican governors to prematurely reopen the economy and schools, causing the avoidable deaths of over 100,000 Americans so far.

    • Attempting to stymie postal delivery to, in effect, steal millions of mail-in ballots… and the election.

    • Erupting with a lava of lies—now up to an average of 22 a day, according to Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler—to bury rivals and reality (Goebbels in 1941 said, “There are so many lies that truth and swindle can scarcely be distinguished.”

    • Attempting to delegitimize the Fourth Estate as “enemies of the people,” using Stalin’s odious phrase.

    • Bullying neutral sources of information—the CDC, DNI, FDA, regulatory agencies—to bend their expected integrity to his political needs.

    • Milking public office for private gain by treating “his” federal government like he treated the Trump Organization.

    • Attempting to criminally extort the president of Ukraine in order to smear Joe Biden.

    • Fiiring career professionals and “independent” inspectors general for doing their job, increasingly having a government of cronies, cranks, multimillionaires, relatives, and unconfirmable third-raters.

    • Ignoring all congressional subpoenas (when Nixon ignored eight of them, it became the third article in his impeachment, “Contempt of Congress”).

    • Saying things such as “I alone can fix it” and “with Article II, I can do whatever I want,” as well as praising Xi Jinping and his Chinese Communist party, when it changed the country’s constitution, making Xi Jinping ruler for life.

    If you add it all up, What do you see?  It all has one purpose,” said Sally Yates, former acting attorney general, “to remove any check on his abuse of power.”  It is deviant fascism.

  5. A book I read for a WWII class years ago was written by a man who was conscripted into the german army. He said that the nazis treated their own soldiers so badly that many of them wanted to be captured by the Americans because American soldiers treated prisoners of war humanely. He went out of his way to get captured by us. Back then we had the moral high ground. We are not those Americans anymore. Under trump and his gop enablers we have become the fascists.

    1. There’s a documentary on Hitler creating an amphetamine which would allow German soldiers to stay awake for several days at a time (of course, they then crashed for several days). This drug gave the Germans an extremely big edge and surprise over the Allies, because they could travel many more miles in a day since they weren’t sleeping.

      It was total abuse of their soldiers. My German grandfather was a Nazi. I know he was ashamed of it, because he always told me that he was a “medic” and never shot anyone. His son (my uncle) told me that my grandfather always had trouble sleeping after the war, because of all the drugs they gave him to stay awake, so that now my grandfather could only sleep with a sedative. Of course, who knows if PTSD and guilt were contributors. I’m sure they were.

      Here’s one of them:
      https://youtu.be/hw-JP37q62Q

    2. @Annette youtube it takes a brave man to admit to going down the wrong path, I hope your grandfather found piece at some point. I’m no fan of Nazis but I’m willing to accept that a man can see the folly of his ways and change, I’m willing to bet that if your grandfather where here he’d be the first one to sock trump in the face and say “never again”.

    3. @Annette youtube the most important thing is that we learn from the mistakes of men like your grandfather and refuse to let those things happen again.

    4. Steve Miller and Trump ordered the hysterectomy so they could not give birth to kids in America and create American born citizens

    1. Hillary wouldn’t be stupid enough to work for Tramp. The Russians distorted lots of made up stuff about her, but I don’t think they ever said she was stupid.

    2. Steve Miller and Trump ordered the hysterectomy so they could not give birth to kids in America and create American born citizens

  6. Five books every US citizen should read:
    – ‘The Dictator’s Handbook’
    By: Bruce Bueno de Mesquita and Alastair Smith

    – ‘On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century’
    By: Timothy D. Snyder

    – ‘Our Time Is Now: Power, Purpose, and the Fight for a Fair America’
    By: Stacey Abrams

    – ‘Surviving Autocracy’
    By: Masha Gessen

    – ‘Black Earth: The Holocaust as History and Warning’
    By: Timothy D. Snyder

    1. Steve Miller and Trump ordered the hysterectomy so they could not give birth to kids in America and create American born citizens

    1. Steve Miller and Trump ordered the hysterectomy so they could not give birth to kids in America and create American born citizens

  7. This is Medicare *FRAUD*
    –> These doctors don’t think they’ll get caught. They’re trying to cash-in with a population they think won’t know how to report them.

    1. Steve Miller and Trump ordered the hysterectomy so they could not give birth to kids in America and create American born citizens

  8. Does the US have enough investigators to investigate all the crimes against humanity, corruption and civil rights abuse? Maybe it was not the best idea to destroy your public school system…..

    1. Steve Miller and Trump ordered the hysterectomy so they could not give birth to kids in America and create American born citizens

  9. Medical abuse. Whether that doctor did it for a sick power thrill or to defraud medical insurance (or both) he belongs in jail. My heart breaks for the women.

  10. GOD BLESS SOBOROFF for his commitment to this reporting. Only those who have gone through or witnessed HOW much of an assault on a child this is can comprehend how disgusting and criminal this policy was/is.

    1. Tons of oversight, just not in the news Steve Miller and Trump ordered the hysterectomy so they could not give birth to kids in America and create American born citizens

  11. Family Separation Policy Only Helps the Paedophiles to Exploit the Children without Parents to Protect them…..😤

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