States Move For Transparency On COVID-19 Deaths In Long-Term Care Facilities | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Rachel Maddow points out the need for more public information about coronavirus cases and deaths in U.S. nursing homes and long-term care facilities both because the public needs to know and because governments need that information to know how to direct resources to address the problem. Aired on 4/17/2020.
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States Move For Transparency On COVID-19 Deaths In Long-Term Care Facilities | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

71 comments

    1. @Gabe Dudley Well than, good for you. Ok, you’re not a Trumpster. Than you’re an ignorant TRUMPER 🤷. Take care.

    2. @Elkslayer I got hairy legs, that,that, that, that, that, turn blonde in the sun kids rub my legs and jump on my lap and I learn about roaches! Only a Joe dementia!

  1. Nothing is going to help me in Florida, as mom spends the last years of her life seemingly abandoned

    1. Msnbc is the corporate beast system mouthpiece spreading the fear and fabricated lies. They are the serpent left antichrist network…
      The devils legion
      They bring your extinction at warp speed

    2. @Twig Spinner Perhaps you should stay out of the Devils layer if you cannot handle the heat…🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵

    1. @MajesG it seems like to me you’re obsessed with Putin. You probably have posters of Putin on your wall lol Obama is the real Russia agent.

    1. so… why are we paying our taxes to it? I’m self-employed, and I think my full tax payment will go to my state this year. My federal government does nothing for me, so why I should I help them bail out billionaires? I don’t see the point. My state may not have the army to secede (yet), but I, personally, can do so with my checkbook.

    2. The current federal administration is what has failed. Government can work and has worked when you have competent individuals running it rather than profit driven business men.

    1. TheSilent People no. Some people just don’t want help. Some don’t realize they are in as bad of condition they are in. They aren’t afraid…. afraid of what main comment guy? Oh you believe I’m the “trump made people scared to go to the racist doctors” crap that was put out

    2. @bobby bee You didn’t isolate 1.5 to 2 million chinese students. They came from a country where 1,300,000,000+ people didn’t/don’t have the virus. How many multiples of that 2 million do you think the US contends with?

    3. @MajorLeague no we didnt isolate all of them most of them came through a second country but private schools did they were not allowed in school but we were ready for that they had to wait two week s before they were alowed beck but those that came from suspect ares did have isolate

    4. @bobby bee That’s just prejudice. You isolated them because they were Chinese nationals?

      The bottom line is that isolation and a lack of major metropolis explain Australia’s position. A comparison between Australia and the US is absurd.

    5. @MajorLeague we isolated everyboby not just chinese, i just happened to mention we had aprox one point five milliom and two million students returning for the new school year and how many used another country to QURANTEEN before reching Auatralia. Other travellers too had to self isolate, then later forced quaranteened for fourteen days. But we were mindfull of the amount of students and had to take that into quesstion as they return from aprox middle of Junuary to middle of February. Please read full post.

    1. @Terry Davis my new nickname for trump is pathological. Short for pathological liar. Don’t you agree?

    2. @G O’Rourke I don’t know if I agree or not. Are you saying that he lies and nobody else does. Because if you think that then you need to change your name from BO SOX to BOZO. I am a recovering Democrat. I believed in them so much that I could not see any other way but the Democratic way. Then along came the internet and thru hour and hour for days and days over months and months and throughout years I found out that the Democrats and their pals the main stream media have been lying to me for a very long time. I’m not saying that they lied since the beginning but lately they have changed from what I believed them to be. They are about government in total control and that is not what this country is about. If you want to be taken care of for the rest of your life that’s you but I want to take care of me and mine without some one forcing me to be a certain way. Unless the Democratic Communist Party goes back to what they were instead of wanting to play mommy and daddy to everyone I will never ever vote Democrat again. So you see BOZO you cannot change my mind anymore than I can change your mind. Stay safe and health and all my best to you and yours.

    1. @Jean-Claude Arsenault I heard her. Now she thinks she’s a doctor and epidemiologist, but gets it all wrong. She is a moron. There is no reason for indiscriminate universal viral testing. That is fake news. If you have no symptoms and get a negative viral test, that doesn’t mean you can’t catch the virus within even the next minute. It’s a waste of time and limited testing resources because PCR/gel electrophoresis takes a lot of time and labor to process.

      What you’re doing by testing indiscriminately is taking time away from a real infected person whom they have to know if they’re positive so they can trace and quarantine all their exposed contacts. You’re killing more people by indiscriminately testing just anyone because it’s taking the focus off the needed testing of those suspected of being infected and contact tracing their exposed contacts.

      It’s also too late for aggressive testing and contact tracing efforts because the virus is out of control and everywhere. Aggressive testing and contact tracing only works early on where there are a few cracks with leaks, but once the dam has burst, you’re really only left with mitigation strategies (e.g., lockdown) and the hope of a vaccine. Aggressive testing and contact tracing at this point is just a drop in the swimming pool.

      Millions of tests at this point are pointless. The virus is everywhere. You would need an effort 10x bigger than the national census to do the footwork of contact tracing at this point.

      S. Korea brought the pandemic under control within weeks without locking down any cities. They had tons of masks available, ventilators, ICU beds, and they were surveilling its citizens by cell phone GPS and credit card activity, and sent them a text message if the government saw they were moving around too much. They also had drive-by testing facilities to prevent infection of hospital staff. (See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOcNEfuJBT4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE-cA4UK07c).

      But you got to understand that South Korea had a decade to prepare for this, so they got the pandemic under control very early, when it was containable. You can blame Obama for not preparing the U.S.

      We are past that narrow window where intensive testing and aggressive contact tracing can bring this pandemic under control. You can’t control something that is completely out of control. We are therefore left with only mitigation strategies (e.g. lockdown) at this point, and hanging all our hopes on an effective vaccine.

      One other thing you have to understand: Mitigation by lockdown is also not a long-term solution. Many countries will go under and cease to exist if they do this past 6 months.

    2. @Rodney Boehner Every News outlet have News Department and Entertainment Departments. All News anchors are in the Entertainment Department, it’s like wrestling, 6 for half a dozen

    3. yes, Rachel has something so short in her brain, that she amazes herself, alone…I can take one from every News outfit and just laugh. They are like wrestling caracters

    4. @Jean-Claude Arsenault At least wrestling admits it’s fake. Rachel Madcow and her libitard herd takes whatever she says—even though it’s batsh&t crazy—as the gospel truth. “Vive le libitard!”

  2. the part of the constitution that defines ”UNITED”, the relationship between Washington and the States, was not written for this….If interpreted by a Moron, turns out to dysfunction, impulsive decision-making and infighting.

    1. Rachel Madcow is just fake news for libitard idiots. If deaths in Long-Term Care facilities are not being reported, then that’s on the states because they keep sole records of it, not the feds. Fake news!!!

    2. If Covid-19 is so deadly, then how come essential workers aren’t dying in the hundreds of thousands right now?

    1. @MediaProxy if social healthcare is great then why doesn’t the senate and congress use it? Why do they have private healthcare?

    2. @Jeff Woods No plan is great. It’s a choice between something that sucks and something that sucks less.

      Regarding the members of congress in the U.S., Snopes has a good article explaining the mixed details here: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/members-congress-health-care/

      One thing to remember about congress is that many of them make a lot more money than your average American. Something that would bankrupt a small family might be a drop in the bucket for a member of congress. Of course it depends on which member of congress you’re talking about because some have wealth outside of what they make being a congress person.

    3. @MediaProxy it is irrelevant what they make and dont make..if the plan is that great anyone and everyone should be a part of that plan shouldnt they? And who better to test it out on than those who are supposed to serve us?

    4. ​@Jeff Woods Speaking about congress, yes, if there is a single plan out there that works for all of them and they all can afford it then one would assume all members of congress would be on that plan. But not all of them need the same plan. Younger members of congress might not need all the same protection that an older member might need. Single members don’t need all the features on a plan meant for families. Different plan for different people with different prices.

      In regards to the general populace, cost and affordability are even more important. The options available are dependent on who your employer is, what state you live in, and the size of your family. The most affordable healthcare plans are tied to your employer.

      If we had a “medicare for all” plan you wouldn’t need to worry about who your employer is and if you can afford to go to the hospital. Or conditions based healthcare. Of course the details would be dependent on how such a plan is implemented by the government. And like I said a national health system does have its down sides. Nothing is perfect.

  3. MN Sen & Dr. @drscottjensen said that he received a 7 pg doc from @mnhealth to fill out death certificates with a diagnosis of #COVID-19 whether the person actually died from COVID-19 or not.

    oops! )

    1. In America, every death is covid. Heart attack, old age, car accident, drug overdose, gunshot in head, knife in chest, suicide, etc

  4. Turn the economy back on. This is getting out of hand. If the worlds economy breaks down, death will be welcome

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