The Importance Of Remembering VE Day | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Author Rick Wilson joins Morning Joe to discuss Victory in Europe Day, which celebrates its 75th anniversary. Aired on 05/08/2020.
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  1. In high school (cir. 1959) I had a teacher who’d seen the celebration of end of both WWI and WWII. She thought people were more “enthusiastic” at the end of WWI because they believed it had been the ‘war to end all war’. At the end of WWII nobody quite believed that anymore.

    1. @Delboy0 Yes, it is certainly true that I myself did not appreciate both contributions until a VERY long time after high school. David

    2. @Pink Rose and the rest of the west spent 4 and 5 years. it was a near thing for the US entering either one. i took in both cases a deliberate attack costing US lives before the US deigned to support anyone else.
      there never was a great record there

    3. @Pink Rose more like 1.5 years in WW1. Common theme in both Wars, America comes in late and tries to take the glory.

    1. Who did not learn anything?! You’re not really familiar with modern history are you? The world learned allot from WW2. But the world have started to forget in the last 20 years.

    2. @6dazey9 so much of the stuff in the link you sent is a bunch of 3rd world countries that keep fighting each other for stupid reasons

  2. Is Trump going to say something today to celebrate this day? No wait, he probably doesn’t know the history of this date.

    1. Related: DT supposedly expressed wonder at why he was brought to a partially sunken ship – in Pearl Harbor visit.

    2. Well, at least he showed up for a commemoration at the WWII Monument in D.C. — remember he didn’t bother to appear for the 100th Anniversary of Armistice Day because it was a little windy & rainy over there! Fortunately, he didn’t try to give a speech today (from the clip I saw), & he stayed about 8 ft. from the handful of veterans present while he chatted with them — but, they were downwind of him! I truly hope those gentlemen keep well.

    1. @snoop alert I bet old creepy Joe knows better than to ingest disinfectants or nuke a hurricane. Dumb demented Trump please pass around your magical elixir at your next idiotic rally.

    2. Kevin McNeil Obama inherited a recession and not only pulled us out, but our economy had improved since! Trump inherited this and is trying to take credit. Most of us know belongs to Obama. Obama warned Trump of Pandemic, but what did Trump do? He spent his first 3 years dismantling all of Obama’s efforts! Obama, in March of 2009, instructed every Federal Agency to play a role in preparing us. It was first detected in on April 15, and within a week, the CDC was already working on a vaccine. Obama would not have failed as Trump has regarding Covid19, and many thousands would still be alive today!

    3. @Mary Hamm Obama doubled the National Debt.. Only President in History to do so. Obama also failed with the H1N1/Swine Flu epidemic.. Which killed more than Covid19 has..while he did nothing.

  3. Victory in Europe Day, the day we defeated Nazi fascism (or so we thought).
    Steve Bannon has been traveling all over the world igniting the flames of the Nazis, and supported by Trump, the Republikkkan Party, and Putin.

    1. Fascism is a Left Wing ideology … Mussolini, the founder of Fascism.. Was the Publisher of the Italian Socialist Party Newspaper, and an officer in the Socialist Party. FYI the last KKK member in Congress was Democrat Robert Byrd.. who finished in 2010. Al Gore’s Father… Albert Gore Senior.. Fillabustered the Civil Rights Bill. You’ve got some history to learn.

    2. @Ynwa6 so if someone gave you a 10 gauge shotgun with unlimited ammunition and you were at the white house or in the halls of Congress capital right now, what would you do?

  4. Thank you, to our greatest generation. They truly understood what it meant to serve a cause greater than themselves. The protesters we see throwing temper tantrums because they want to go to mall could learn a great deal from them. I salute you.

    1. Let’s not paint an entire generation, with such a broad brush. Every generation have the good, the bad, and the ugly. God bless US, everyone. God, we need you now, more than ever!

    2. @speks36 Honestly, stop that nonsense. No generation did anything as a whole–it was the people who maneuvered their way into positions of corporate, national and international power that gradually caused the problems we see today.

    3. @Edward Cochran Thank you. I should have been less blunt and let you take the lead here. Peace to all of you, today and through all future tribulations.

    4. Right there with you David J. I’ve always admired our greatest generation -all allied countries fighting fascism, combatants and civilians who came together. They showed us how great we can be when we stand together against nefarious forces, no matter how powerful those forces seem.

  5. So many have gone now. But at least they don’t have to witness as the country they fought for morphs into the country they fought against.

    1. @Richard K Rep. Senators could have made Pence president. They didn’t want to even hear any evidence against their Monster in Chief. The so called, Christians in this country have been making excuses for Trump from the start. They are gutless wonders as much as the rest of our Constitution shredders. Don’t preach Christ when you ignore what he said in Matthew 25.

  6. Harry Truman – Wartime President – “The buck stops here” Donald Trump – Pandemic President “I accept no responsibility”

    1. Please add these two lines to your post. “It’s Obama’s fault” and Trump puts that buck in his pocket!

  7. Four Generations of Trumps in America and not one has served in the military. DT grandfather was not let back into Germany because he did not serve in early 2oth C. I don t believe that the Trump family comprehends what sacrifice is yet DT asks regular US citizens to be Warriors in the COVID pandemic while they sequester in the WH. If we are Warriors then the Defense Budget needs to used to support Warrior families.

    1. And the irony, my great grandfather fought in WWI, he won several medals including the Iron Cross. Yet, when the Nazis came to power, they rounded up and murdered him and his family because they weren’t German enough. Today Trump treats many native born and nationalized citizens as not American enough, if they have too much melanin in their skin.

  8. Take it this is a day of mourning for trump as his grandpas team lost this day.

  9. Quite telling that Trump does not make a speech or statement today. He is a traitor to the West and its civilization, a destructive narcissist.

  10. My dad was a WWII vet. Landed on the beaches of Normandy. Later wounded by German sniper. He fought in France and Germany under Patton.
    He was no coward like Trump.

  11. Future generations of Americans will want to forget and abstain from talking about Donald trump just like how the Germans want to forget Hitler and the Nazi past!

    1. @Bret A. Mason I think I just broke a knee; fell off my chair laughing! The only place that will have a monument to Trump is North Korea!

    2. WYSO Alums 2015 There will be one erected there too when he frees the North Korean people from communist tyranny!

    3. @Bret A. Mason And speaking of communist parties, check out a small state called ‘Kerala’ in India that has been ruled by a communist party. See how they have responded to the pandemic. Before you check it out, make sure that Lysol you drank half hour ago wears out. LOL

  12. I hope we get strong, sound minded leadership who care about the American people back into office again.–Simeone we can trust, and is truthful and respectable in his/her actions.

    1. @Grace Bertrand yeah I was making fun of you. Being a leader isn’t about saying nice things or being handsome

  13. I just watched “The Bomb” from 2015. I never realized that during the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK consulted with Eisenhower. It was recorded on tape. Can you imagine Trump giving Obama a call???

    1. that’s because only 3 presidents led armies to victory…Washington…grant…and ike….

  14. “How quickly America moved through Europe,” Willie Geist?

    Americans weren’t the only combatants fighting Hitler. The British, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, East Indians and many others were fighting in Europe.
    The British and Canadians advanced far faster than Patton. So fast that they were ordered to slow down.

    1. @David Sullivan most of the nazis forces were fighting the soviet union on the eastern front

    2. In addition to that the Red Army won the war on the eastern front. General Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov won the war wrt the eastern front.

    3. @icarus514 Correct. When l was a kid growing up in the 1950s, the Cold War altered what I should have learned about the eastern front.

    4. @icarus514 quite right, the historian Max Hastings always points out that the Western Allies killed around 3-400,000 german troops while the Soviet Union killed 3,000,000+ which at the end of the day is how wars are won. However I do believe that just as Europe owes a great deal to the aid America provided in defeating the Nazis, we should be equally grateful for the fact that the Soviet advance was prevented from advancing further west by that military support and Churchill’s wisdom in ordering British troops to block the route into Denmark as it was certainly Stalin’s intention to occupy that country along with Greece. Because while we celebrate VE day it’s important to remember that for millions in Eastern Europe the defeat of Hitler just meant swapping occupiers. Many resistance fighters who had spent years defying the Nazis were rounded up by Stalin and either executed or sent to gulags

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