“Art of the Deal” coauthor Tony Schwartz goes deep on the spiritual holes of modern life — and ways to transcend the current societal pressure to constantly focus on yourself, brand yourself and seek fame, power and fortune at the expense of others, a process that he argues ultimately leaves people feeling inadequate and empty. In this interview on the roof of NBC's iconic 30 Rockefeller building, a special Thanksgiving segment on "The Beat with Ari Melber," Schwartz explores how people try to fill their “inner deficit,” a theme he has often discussed as applying to his prior writing collaborator Donald Trump, and how to pursue a more spiritual focus. Aired on 11/27/19.
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Turning On Trump, 'Art Of The Deal' Coauthor Says Inner Hole Drives Lust For Fame, Power | MSNBC