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Former State Department official Anja Manuel joins Morning Joe to discuss why she says U.S.-China relations are in a free fall. Aired on 05/20/2020.
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86 Comments on "U.S.-China Relations Are In A Free Fall, Says Expert | Morning Joe | MSNBC"

  1. If you don’t have a seat at the table, then you’re going to be on the menu.
    Sorry US, t’rump is too dumb to be a global leader.
    America First = America Alone.

    • @Von Dor whenever you have a conversation with a Trump supporters you always have to bring crayons to draw it out for them or else they won’t understand how they’re being screwed. There’s no liberals vs Repubs anymore. It’s class warfare.

    • auditorium Maximum | May 20, 2020 at 2:47 PM | Reply

      stray fiftynine great English sentence structure

    • @thom wessels Actually, I have read the Mueller Report, which it seems you haven’t. If you can read the Mueller report and come away with the conclusion that Trump is not a criminal you must be either a Russian troll/bot or a brain dead Trump acolyte.

    • WELL SAID. One man brought the country down by Dividing and with his Incompetence. Building the Wall & Repealing & Replacing Obamacare has been his “only” focus and then alienating all the U.S. Allies & of course attacking them also…No Diplomacy.

    • Allan Gregory | May 20, 2020 at 7:22 PM | Reply

      You are now irrelevant on the world stage, go away

  2. But… But… But…
    Didn’t the orange buffoon say Xi was his best friend?

    • Allan Gregory | May 20, 2020 at 7:19 PM | Reply

      But but but OBAMA 😭 waaaaaa 🍼🍼

    • Charlie Brown | May 20, 2020 at 7:28 PM | Reply

      @RJ You say it’s all a front, TRUST ME. Why should I trust you? You just made lots of unsubstantiated claims with no evidence, and you say TRUST ME. Who are you to say anything?

    • Charlie Brown I don’t care if you trust me or not. You would not believe the credible information one can search online even from the government website. All these issues are there in black and white, don’t need any media outlet spitting garbage. There’s some truth on both sides. But at the end of the day, better believe it’s all about gathering the vote. It’s always been played this way and will continue till after you and I are gone… it’s called politics…. for me I care about life! This is my one and only issue. As a businessman Trump is brilliant he truly is. I wish he possessed empathy for humanity. And when you see frontline say we are out of PPE this is no lie or political gain to be met. It’s about keeping us and others safe. Can’t save lives if we get sick.. then there’s this well Obama left the cupboards bare. Even if this where true. He’s had 3 1/2 years to fill them. And he can’t blame H1N1 🤦‍♀️ trust me there want enough to wipe out PPE. Just more propaganda to take the blame away for failing. You think about this one point. Yes many contract Covid-19 and recover. But here’s a few issues. One if you are not needing any assistance with breathing. You will not be hospitalized. I don’t care how much pain your in you will not find and bed in a hospital, and Covid-19 does cause pain in whatever part of the body it has affected. Second the biggest myth of all is Hydroxychloroquine keeps you from contracting Covid and that if your young and healthy you won’t contract it. This is a major deception. When Covid-19 first started in Wuhan it was a unknown respiratory illness spreading rapidly. This is it and all that was known by ALL. By the time it hit Europe, it had evolved into a deadly form of Covid strain. It mutates several more times from droplets to aerosolized. Then the US. It mutates again two strains S and L. This is where you hear asymptotic. People walking around infected and don’t even know their spreading it. Two weeks ago Covid-19 had 42, strains. The last two one affecting children and it can be deadly causing cardiac arrest. The other a strain that reinfect those who’ve already had it and this a 50/50 with recovery.. Shutting the United States down is impossible because families have to have a way to provide. But this man needs to improvise not making jokes about medications and mask. They do help slow the spread allowing time for proper treatments and hopefully a cure or vaccine. Covid is no joke and the numbers today are staggering considering today’s count is more then day one of eruption..
      No mean to argue with anyone I just care about life and I’m sure you have family you care for too.. this shouldn’t have to be a YOU effort it has to be a WE or will never get through this without more lives lost.. and about the politics.. history will show democrats and republicans are and have been shady. That’s been proven
      Good luck

    • thom wessels | May 20, 2020 at 9:07 PM | Reply

      ​@RJ You seem reasonable for a liberal, so I’ll spend bit of axon – dendrite energy responding: I am empathetic about people dying but I don’t mourn every person who dies in a car wreck, from cancer or from using Johson and Jonson talcum powder. My focus is more on getting America back to work, not politics. Working again will help more people get and remain healthy. Constant whining about the China Virus and who made mistakes here and how we could have done that better is not helping ANYTHING. That’s just reality. Realize this: I’m NOT a Trump fan. I DO however appreciate how my family has benefited from his (only) 3 years of strong leadership, and consider this: Pre China Virus Stock Market, GDP. NATO severely spanked and paying up now. 4 hostages released from NOKO. Strong Russia sanctions (still on), America’s welfare roles dramatically reduced (YAY!). Employment stats UP. Big Beautiful Wall going UP! Liberals are so angry and spun up, filled with overflowing, unmitigated hatred and terminal TDS that they look absolutely idiotic and confirm that every time they become MSDNCNN echo chambered – Hive Minders using borrowed, unoriginal tripe. If they would only look at facts that ACTUALLY happen, they would only look smarter. CHEERS!

    • Colin Mahoney | May 20, 2020 at 10:45 PM | Reply

      @R Thomas Yep that true but after Epstein was arrested ole toxic donnie, and his side kick ole billy barr assisted Epstein to commit suicide!

  3. Max Mustermann | May 20, 2020 at 11:15 AM | Reply

    US-China Relations ? …. wake up dear USA … ALL countries are laughing at you 🙂

  4. The only difference between US and China is that in the US you are given the illusion that you live in a free society and in China they tell you up front that you do not.

  5. Marc jackson | May 20, 2020 at 11:20 AM | Reply

    Why does China bear ‘a lot’ of the blame for covid 19? Did the USA bear ‘a lot’ of the blame for Swine Flu?

    • stray fiftynine | May 20, 2020 at 2:11 PM | Reply

      @Shirley Mccrindle Please show us or tell us that information. Because i keep hearing that but have seem no proof what so ever. All i know is they wouldn’t let us in to investigate. Why do you think that is? I am willing to change my mind. But where is the reliable truth? For now all i see is 6 weeks delay. And people trying to blame the virus on Trump. Came from China but it is Trumps fault???

    • @Shirley Mccrindle Yep–….It’s the “End-all” to anyone who wants to say the opposite….Nothing left to say! lol! Stay safe!

    • @Cleon P. on that hate thing ..dont worry the puppeteers are working overtime to grow that hate and point a finger at the next “boogieman” that we need to be rescued from. after all there is an election coming , and Trump got nothing!

    • The US bears the blame for it’s Slow & Late Response where many people did not have to die.

    • I think you meant to say the Spanish flu as it originated in America

  6. Old Uncle Bob | May 20, 2020 at 11:24 AM | Reply

    Putin’s puppet has savaged all of America’s foreign relations.

    • anne-marie Andrews | May 20, 2020 at 10:48 PM | Reply

      @brian gardner did you notice after trump ordered solimani assassinated and was tweeting insults to iran that as soon as putin rode into iran trump calmed right down, wonder why?

    • anne-marie Andrews | May 20, 2020 at 10:51 PM | Reply

      @STAY HOME Stop the Spread then why did flynn lie? flynn himself said he lied, said it twice. do you have as many friends in jail as trump does? I don’t know anyone in jail, don’t hang around with that type, do you? trump does.

    • anne-marie Andrews | May 20, 2020 at 10:52 PM | Reply

      @STAY HOME Stop the Spread obamagate is a republican joke, hillary is not locked up and mexico did not pay for the wall – trump took that money out of american troop funds.

    • anne-marie Andrews | May 20, 2020 at 10:53 PM | Reply

      @Brett Schlee china did not hide, the virus came to u.s.a. from europe. you are a “low information voter” and like conspiracy where there is none.

    • anne-marie Andrews | May 20, 2020 at 10:54 PM | Reply

      @stray fiftynine right, russia is so transparent they let us know they helped trump get elected.

  7. Patrick Kingfisher Kennedy | May 20, 2020 at 11:26 AM | Reply

    China has a leader, the US does NOT.

  8. Not so easy to be rivals with China while simultaneously being adversaries with Europe.

    • Antonio Perales del Hierro | May 20, 2020 at 1:51 PM | Reply

      You’re talking about a US government in a serious and destructive adversarial relationship with its own citizens as well. The Chinese are made to understand they’re not free, US’ers are fooled into thinking that they are. The indigenous, the blacks and the chicanos know better.

    • ryvr madduck | May 20, 2020 at 2:28 PM | Reply

      The United States should NOT be paying for NATO. NATO is leftover from World War 2, Europe should be defending itself by now and paying their own way, that’s why they are mad. The issues with China are much more serious. If we bow to China they will not just let it go, they will press harder until we are at full Chinese serfdom level to them.

    • ryvr madduck I suggest you look up how powerful the E.U would be today if we combined our forces. We already have considered it and the U.S was uncomfortable with the idea of it

    • ryvr madduck | May 20, 2020 at 8:37 PM | Reply

      @Audi Yeah that was the idea, but Europe expected the U.S. to pick up the tab.

    • ryvr madduck No I’m talking about implementing a European Military. It was not asked for the us to pay for it they didn’t like it cause they thought it may be a threat. I suggest you look up the combined spending on eu forces already it’s ahead of Russia by a long shot.

  9. The Insane Anonymous Streamer | May 20, 2020 at 11:31 AM | Reply

    China, if you’re listening…..please dump some information to wikileaks in October about Trump

  10. bandoha bandoha | May 20, 2020 at 11:32 AM | Reply

    Seriously you need an “expert” to tell you this.

  11. on the economic front, ‘experts’ in the west have been saying Chinas economic ‘bubble’ is going to burst for decades. Alot of them have lost alot of money betting against chinas economy. lol
    china seems to be doing fine still after 30 years of people saying its going to burst. hmm
    on the other hand the US economy was hit heavily in 2008 and im sure u guys remember being broke af just like u are now 😉

    as for relations, I think people around the world will and have looked at how the two countries handled the outbreak and I mean just based on pure numbers it doesnt look good for the US. China is pretty much open now and I dont see mass death, people dying in the street, their hospitals overwhelmed. Maybe they really do have it somewhat under control ( although I think its always dangerous to claim a place has it under control ie south korea and Singapore) Well as for the US, u guys had like 20K new cases yesterday so….

    I think companies and people will look at these things when looking for a place to invest and would u invest in a place where if theres crisis things get handled harshly but quickly and effectively?
    or would u rather invest in a place where its 1/2 assed the whole way and then theres a 1/2 open, 1/2 closed deal where factories are getting 1000+ infection outbreaks?

    tl;dr – we’ll see how things play out 🙂

  12. Patrick Kingfisher Kennedy | May 20, 2020 at 11:36 AM | Reply

    “China has been working very hard to contain the coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American people, I want to thank president Xi.” – tweeted 24 JAN by tweedledum dum

  13. Italy 10-week lockdown someone complained America one month and people or storming Governor mansions with with automatic weapons

    • George B. Wolffsohn | May 20, 2020 at 7:05 PM | Reply

      widdle donnie has succeeded in turning the US v China power structure on it’s head. He has withdrawn America from its role as leader of the free world and China had stepped in to fill the void. They’re donating money to the WHO to fill the void left by widdle donnie’s withdrawing US aid to the WHO. His anti science, anti facts administration has made America the laughing stock of the entire world.
      America can’t afford another term with him at the helm.

    • Yeah we got some real William Wallace types around here. 🙄

    • Allyloo Lacy | May 20, 2020 at 8:18 PM | Reply

      Suzanne Smith it’s not just an inconvenience. I’m a business owner. Even with the ppp loan (a portion I have to pay back) there isn’t a way for me to not to go into bankruptcy after this if it continues. I don’t like the way many people protest, and often times they give people with purpose a bad view. But they have some pictures posted out there with the real messages too.

      Im not saying they are right and you are wrong I’m saying we’ve got to work together to get the country open safely, where some won’t face a decade of financial turmoil and others can also be safe and stay at home to work if they can due to comorbidities.

      Many people believe they can take precaution and battle this. That’s why Georgia’s and Florida’s numbers are down and didn’t spike despite being stated that opened early.

    • KingandQueen 2019 | May 20, 2020 at 8:27 PM | Reply

      @George B. Wolffsohn it’s call Martial Law up next!

    • @Brian Liew They are helping to create the very government they want to defend against. They are so loyal to Don, they can not see it. Don told them it was a hoax, and they believe him. The test of their loyalty came when he said he takes hydro-whatever to prevent it. Two contradicting statements. They believe both. They have lost their ability to think and Don knows he owns them now.

  14. If your neighbor house is on fire, you sit and laugh and do nothing until your house is burning. Who is to blame ?

    • Trump needs to see this one

    • Chris Banks | May 20, 2020 at 5:58 PM | Reply

      Well played sir… Well played

    • Joanne Battersby | May 20, 2020 at 7:47 PM | Reply

      ocean there is a very good little joke here in Canada told by Stomping Tom Conners who was from Skinners Pond Newfoundland. So – so I’m driving down the street and I see a man dancing on his lawn with his house burning behind him. ” Hey Newf’!! Don’t you see your house on fire ? ” That’s okay Buddy . I’ve got enough wood in the attic to build another one “

    • Michael Lee | May 20, 2020 at 9:29 PM | Reply

      Trump <<<< of course who else

  15. “China is an authoritarian state”…….well I guess that’s exactly what the US is, or at least moving towards that wonderful system…..

    • Yep, that;s what Trump wants and taunts…Unlimited Power. You see the GOP Senate didn’t Impeach him for his Crimes. What the Master wants the Master Gets. Now they want to waste time and money investigating one of Trump’s Criminal side kicks…Flynn….who pleaded guilty twice. It’s just a Disgrace. He wants to be Putin so Bad.

  16. ORIENTAL EXPRESS | May 20, 2020 at 12:32 PM | Reply

    china lock down city to control virus, plus we have no idea where the virus started. It looks like is probably not originated in China, because the US numbers are sooooo ridiculously high, i would make an educated bet that it is actually the American flu that started last year. Which is NO BODY’S FAULT. Is mother nature saying FU to human.

  17. What do you mean by China deserve a lot of the blame? How is it China informed the world so early on in January 2020 while Trump downplaying COVID19 for two months leading to disastrous chaos is any fault of China? – that’s just repeating trump’s lies!

  18. Beisong Quanwen | May 20, 2020 at 1:12 PM | Reply

    When American Gov dying, people can really hope for world peace

    • Chinese bot spotted

    • @Audi y? coz you dont like it? believe it or not US makes war whenever they go…heck if US disappears maybe there will be less war in the middle east and weapons selling…. you guys manipulate just to get money.. when KARMA hits you with this pandemic it shows that no matter how much money you make it meant nothing if you die…

    • Toq Wan I’m not American. And the Middle East has been fighting amongst themselves for centuries it’ll never stop sorry.

    • Shlomo Jewdog Rabbi Barksteinbergovitz | May 20, 2020 at 9:13 PM | Reply

      Audi jew neocon spotted

  19. Алия Ашералиева | May 20, 2020 at 1:30 PM | Reply

    China is much more democratic than USA and to blame China in your sh…t is beyond anything rational.

  20. Trump: “just ask Chai-nah, they know better than me “.

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