What Last Night’s Debate Could Mean For Bernie Sanders | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Former Obama campaign manager David Plouffe and Democratic strategist Adrienne Elrod discuss their takeaways from Wednesday's debate and what four moderates splitting the moderate vote could mean for the 2020 campaign. Aired on 2/20/2020.
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What Last Night's Debate Could Mean For Bernie Sanders | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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    1. @G D Well gosh golly, I guess Bernie is establishment then, huh? I guess Buttigege talking about Bernie BERN-ing the party down is just hysterical and you moderates can just calmly all support Bernie, huh? XD

  1. If Bernie wins Nevada, he’ll have momentum going into SC and might win, at least he’ll come in 2nd. Then 4 days later we have Super Tuesday where Bernie could end the race

    1. @Dave Waldon independents are what started the bernie movement ( they tend to think for themslevses not a party dogma)

    2. @Brenda Fudge he is energetic, Bloomberg had the same procedures done 25 years ago, so apparently this procedure does not affect life expectancy.

  2. Plouffe still thinks it’s 2008 mentioning George Bush. Politics and Democratic party have moved on thanks to the progressive agenda led by Bernie. #NotMeUs

    1. @Ty can we please change that slogan. Bernie will make world better place (MWBP) yeah I don’t like it… Sorry✌ #notmeUS

    2. @Bjay AwesomeBlackDude Thanks for that, really makes everyone nervous about this result as well. Don’t like them not giving information about the developer of the app. Also, Google is involved and they don’t like Bernie.

  3. We did it, boys. Even MSNBC can’t spin last night’s debate as a loss for Sanders. This is the type of overwhelming victory that will propel Bernie straight to the White House.

    1. @W TF? It shows the true colours of Hillary supporters but also that Bernie supporters are tuly against Trump. So many won’t vote for trump but may stay at home because they are not going to vote for a rigged ‘DNC’ or for candidates like ‘Mini Mike’.

    2. James Tobin in all these decades he hasn’t been able to do anything because of McConnell? Right now there are over 300 bills being held up by McConnell. If Sanders is so great, what has been doing all these years?

    3. @Abz The Dabz… The proof from 2016 shows that Bernie’s Socialists voted for Trump, after getting screwed by the DNC.
      The DNC is going to screw Bernie Sanders again with a contested convention.
      Like always, the Super Delegates decide for the Democratic Plantation sheep and tell the sheep who the nominee is going to be.
      The sheep get herded in and because they’re all so freaking shallow… they follow along like a herd of good little sheep.
      Bernie’s Socialists will vote for Trump again in November.

  4. MSNBC is literally telling us that Bernie is an extremely popular candidate and the DNC would ignore the direction people want to take the party in just to push a nothing candidate that does nothing to solve the problems that gave us trump last time.

    1. Did anyone realize just how racist bernie is https://youtu.be/-VyPEkLLB4o and he is right, free medicare for all will destroy this country. At least he is honest, the fact that he tells you and you still ignore what he is saying and still vote for him, is your fault.

    2. @JSINmartini And what do you refer to? That his support lags far behind me his likability? Look at any poll. That he won’t be able to get anything done without a bunch of Senate seats flipping? That’s reality. Democrats would have to get to 55+ seats for any of his ideas to have a chance. I’ll admit that that is a possibility, but it would take a exponentially larger blue wave than 2018.

    3. @Poop Brain it’s Mitch that is holding up so many Bill’s passed in House. Just like he stopped a just impeachmeny.

  5. American media: socialism is bad…except if it is for rich people and rich corporations, then it is fine…

    1. ​@Derek Smidl-In a recent NBC/Washington Post poll. Only 25 percent of respondents ranked “socialist” as a desirable trait for a candidate. Americans don’t want a socialist President. Those are the facts.

    2. @Derek SmidlSo, Bernie wants to take other people’s money to help the middle class while keeping his own. Why hasn’t he donated proceeds from his book? Bernie is a conman just like Trump preying on weak-minded Americans.

  6. Most normal people don’t want another corporate puppet republican-in-democrat-clothing moderate that corporate medias like CNN and MSNBC crave on behalf of their wealthy owners to protect tax cuts for the wealthy.

    1. @CJ J . It will save me money….. debunked.
      You’re pretending I don’t want guaranteed health care from my check. Your pretending I won’t save money. You’re essentially lying to people to change the results. Your numbers are meaningless. 76% support m4a according to a poll that I saw. If I average them, we’re in the margin of error. I said Biden was weak, your numbers didn’t…

    2. @Terry Tater I am a Democrat and have always supported Democrats.. during the past 30 years. I have a good life… thank you. I own my home and have lived in it for 3 decades … I pay my taxes… I help people who are less fortunate.. I travel around the world. I did not say Mr. Sanders was a populist…that’s a claim his supporters make. Please re-read my last post.

    3. @Terry Tater People will save money if their premium is more than their tax increase. And when they go to the doctor.
      But for far more than you think, that tax increase will be MORE than their share of insurance premiums. They won’t save at all UNTIL they actually go to a doctor. That’s one reason unions are against it.
      Look at the Medicare payroll tax deduction on your pay stub. Triple it. Compare how much it went up to how much your insurance premium is. That will tell you if you save or not.
      But keep in mind that at 4% instead of the current 1.45%, which is part of Bernie’s plan, his plan is underfunded by more than $1 trillion a year. So look for that 4% to be closer to the 7.5% he’s hiking the business’s side of it to.
      So multiply that deduction by five.

    4. @Terry Tater Assuming we’re not talking about people getting six-figures or more, people who don’t get their insurance through their employer will likely save quite a bit.
      Those with children and other dependents on their policy will save, since those are usually pricy. But remember if a spouse or partner works and is on that policy, they don’t get that premium offset. That affects the savings.
      But single people who have decent plans through their employer will very likely face smaller paychecks.
      Its not far-fetched that someone could go years before they start to really see any savings, if they rarely go to the doctor.

    5. @Blessing John Chelliah . The problem is that populist means different things to different people. Demagogue doesn’t. Bernie is popular. That doesn’t make him a demagogue..

  7. Bernie didn’t say whoever has the pledged delegate lead should be the nominee. He said whoever has the most VOTES should be the nominee. Huge difference

    1. @roc oita No it wasn’t . “We was robbed!” is a classic excuse. Doesn’t mean it’s accurate.

      The System Isn’t ‘Rigged Against Sanders
      https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-system-isnt-rigged-against-sanders/

      No, the DNC didn’t ‘rig’ the Democratic primary for Hillary Clinton
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/11/04/no-the-dnc-didnt-rig-the-democratic-primary-for-hillary-clinton/?noredirect=on

      The Democratic Primary Wasn’t Rigged
      https://www.thenation.com/article/the-democratic-primary-wasnt-rigged/

    2. @Sea Star Its important to watch all types of media coverage to gain a more objective perspective. I watch FOX sometimes, and I enjoy certain conspiracy channels. Just because I don’t watch a video you seem to like doesn’t make my point of view invalid, and it doesn’t help yours. I think that Bernie is a big risk as a primary candidate because of many reasons, including his health. Its called consideration, and its what smart people do. I consider the risks and avoid reacting to my gut feeling. Bernie could potentially destroy the Democratic Party in the way that Trump destroyed the GOP, and that won’t help our cause in 2024. Its something to think about. Why don’t you want to think about it? Keep in mind, everything we are talking about is pure speculation, so its just sharing opinions.

  8. If the DNC takes the nomination away from Bernie so Many people who he’s inspired are not going to trust the system and won’t vote. If he’s clearly the popular choice by people why don’t they just get behind him. Media is saying that Bernie is the one dividing the dem party but it’s actually the establishment dems… why not just get behind him and unify the party in that way…

    1. @Matthew Vollmer Right Matt. It’s the ” elites” that control everything…🙄🙄.

      I’m not an elite Matt. I’m a middle class blue collar worker that has to work over time . Its not the government’s fault, it’s not society’s fault, and its not your fault I work so much. But I’m making progress, and getting ahead . I dont want to give my hard earned money to you ot anyone else. I dont want a free handout. I dont want more government control.

      It’s really sad( not being sarcastic) that some people in this country want to turn this great democracy into another China or Russia. As a gulf war Vet its embarrassing to see people want this.

    1. Yea… you’re going to vote for the old fool, Communist who had a heart attack? Then you’re a moron. And Denmark said they’re not a Socialist country.

  9. I just fell off my chair at MSNBC saying “BERNIE is the strong winner of last nite’s debate.” Hello Somebody!

    1. @Celeste Connor I realize Trump is no angel, but yet again, who is. But He has been one of the best Presidents we have ever had. I think he will be re-elected, so no need for all that.

    1. @Zeno of Citium disagree. Moderates are people who are content with the status quo. The default settings as it were. Problem is that both parties since before Regan has been shifting to the political right. That is why Nixon and Regan wouldn’t fit in today’s Republican party, but would fit in with the Democrats. Bernie is only radical to people who are out of touch with the troubles people face currently.

    2. @Chris B – Sorry, I will not be pushed to the extremes of either side. Find someone else. Maybe your Fortnite, Tide Pod eating, buddies in high school, will go for it.

    3. @Zeno of Citium oh sweetie, tidepods didn’t exist back then. Moderates are dinosaurs sinking in the tar pits because they lack the reason needed to struggle for freedom.
      Only the insane would think that so-called Moderate Republicans – or – Moderate Democrats are anything other than sellouts to whichever lobbyists cut the biggest checks. “Radical” Trump got elected because people were upset with the Moderates’ status quo. They are *still* mad at that status quo, which is why “Radical” Bernie has the momentum he has.

    1. @Lindsey Stein
      Duh !!!!! Government TOTAL takeover of Healthcare with penalty of Jail if you try to go private sounds like Communism to me. And there is NO such thing as Democratic Socialism , its PURE Socialism and its 75% of Communism .
      ” America will never be a Socialist Country ” —》 Donald J Trump
      President of United States , State of the Union address 2019…… 🇺🇸

    2. @Admiral Crunch Right, because Americans aren’t free to be whatever they want. Other Western countries must be better at freedom, huh ?

    3. @- B. B. B. – Then move there if your SO oppressed. My guess is that you can’t provide for yourself and resort to being a crybaby PARASITE.

    1. And yet, the majority don’t care. They didn’t want a corrupt POS like Bernie, they wanted either Trump or Yang. Remember Yang? He actually had some intelligence and some integrity. Bernie has none of that.

      Trump 2020 😀

    1. Well then you are all a bunch of racist people and could care less about crashing this country for “free” crap Did anyone realize just how racist bernie is https://youtu.be/-VyPEkLLB4o and he is right, free medicare for all will destroy this country. At least he is honest, the fact that he tells you and you still ignore what he is saying and still vote for him, is your fault.

    2. @Septembers Whisper NOTHING IS FREE WE ALREADY PAY TAXES- WE ARE SAYING “SHOW US THE MONEY WE PAID”

      Denmark IS FAR from destroyed, Switzerland is fantastic as most SOCIAL DEMOCRACIES

      How is wanting people NOT TO DIE RACIST?
      L O R D– LMAO yall are losing your minds defending ACTUAL NAzis like Bloomturd and Trump!
      Then you let those republicans like Amy and Pete in your party- with CLEARLY Republican policies, no wonder there is a man with ties to ACTUAL NAZIS in the white house?
      I hope Medicare for all can solve your issues- therapy will also be FREE. o.O

  10. Bernie Sanders is the first and only politician in my entire lifetime that I can say I actually believe what he say cares about America and it’s people..

    1. @steven henson,
      Where do I start?
      America is hugely better than it was a few years ago!
      Many more people are employed today than in 50 years!
      Many more minorities are employed today than at any time in history, which is a fantastic improvement!
      – Thanks to President Trump we now all have a clear path into a moderate American ideological future based on increasing Peace on Earth and fairness between Nations.
      * Think of Trump’s plan as a lifestyle change rather than a crash diet.
      There are no magic pills like all of the Democrats are proposing.

    2. @Doppler Overrun I don’t have to admit to anything. I am not a “Bernie Bro”. Heart attacks are a sad fact of life and happen to people of all ages.

    3. @Rand Kocher I asked how is your life in particular … Not anecdotal … Not talking points .. not just saying winning … are you making more money ? Getting better paying job ? Did you save a ton in taxes ?

    1. @Septembers Whisper you planning on copy&pasting your blurb to every post on here? Gotta ask, are you bored or is someone paying you to do this?

    2. @Septembers Whisper And you must be pretty dumb and ignorant. That bs does not fly coming from a tRumpty uneducated troll. Your bs lies only makes Bernies campaign stronger. Thank you for your narrow-minded ignorance.

    3. @Margo Resd up on the fraudulent Warren. She is a rethuglican at heart and she lies. No thanks. tRump would eat her for lunch, but not dinner, he prefers hamberders. 😅

    4. @Lets do this You might like this better : Bernie want to make it so we stop deportations https://bigleaguepolitics.com/open-borders-bernie-sanders-wants-to-stop-deporting-illegal-aliens/     Plans to take over the power grid    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sanders-climate-plan-federal-takeover-energy       https://realamericanpundit.com/2020/02/04/oh-no-bernie-sanders-has-completely-gone-mad-will-take-over-power-grid/   Grant all illegals in our country immediate legal status     Wants free health care for all even though he admitted in 1987 that it would bankrupt our country ( but who cares, it will be FREE)   Is also a big fan of Russia and communism https://www.waynedupree.com/bernie-sanders-russia/      https://m.theepochtimes.com/videos-emerge-of-bernie-sanders-praising-castro-communism_2813516.html     Plans to let non citizens vote in his hometown  and why not, he has promised them the world, it is like winning the lottery for them  https://americadaily.com/bernie-sanders-hometown-passes-proposal-to-let-non-citizens-vote/    and this is just the beginning be sure to watch the project veritas videos about bernies staff on youtube.  There is so, so much more,  get to know your canididates!

    1. Did anyone realize just how racist bernie is https://youtu.be/-VyPEkLLB4o and he is right, free medicare for all will destroy this country. At least he is honest, the fact that he tells you and you still ignore what he is saying and still vote for him, is your fault. Bernie is a racist jerk.

    2. BERNIE IS A FRAUD, UNAUTHENTIC. HE DOES NOT WALK THE TALK. WHY IS HE PUSHING SOCIAL MARXISM FOR THE PEOPLE, WHILE HE LOVES AND ENJOYS CAPITALISM? WHY HE NEEDS THREE HOMES IF HE SPENDS “MOST OF HIS TIME IN WASHINGTON”? WHY IT IS A PAIN FOR HIM TO DONATE ONE OF THE THREE HOUSES TO A FAMILY IN NEED? BLOOMBERG, AT LEAST CREATED JOBS WITH HIS MONEY SO HE’S ENTITLED TO SAY “I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT WITH MY $$$”. BERNIE WANTS TO LIVE LIKE A FILTHY CAPITALIST AT EXPENSE OF THE PROLETARIAT —THIS IS USA, NOT USSR, CUBA OR VENEZUELA!

  11. #BERNIE2020 Leading Among People Of Color, Young People, Non-Voter’s, Women, African-American And Independents #Fact

    1. US OLD WHITE GUYS WITH BRAINS TOO! MEDICARE FOR ALL! BERNIE SANDERS 2020 IF DNC TAKES IT FROM BERNIE SANDERS THERE SHOULD BE A RIOT!

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