Why The 2016 Election Was Just A ‘Dry Run’ For Russia | Morning Joe | MSNBC

The Atlantic's Franklin Foer joins Morning Joe to discuss his new piece 'Putin Is Well on His Way to Stealing the Next Election.' Aired on 05/13/2020.
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  1. And Brian Kemp’s intensive reconstruction era syle Race Based Voter Suppression was simply a Proof of Concept Demonstration

    1. @Coco Crisp They are #FoxNFiends rags. Mark Warner thought Burr was sane. Sorry Burr is as perverted as Trump. You know at least #MoscowMitch #MoscowMitchSecTranswife and others dont give a fork about truth or democracy. They dont even try to hide they are paid well.

    2. @Jeff Williams yep I know and Republikkklans are easily triggered when you tell them who they are.

  2. In 2016 Americans made the worst mistake in the American History. We voted a Manipulator to run the Country.

    1. He was not legitimately elected but appointed by the electoral college. In my first sem college poli sci class learned how one rich enough could buy the presidency through campaign contributions lobbyists using foreign intermediaries. We even used CorruptRump as the class example in early 2000s. Im cinvinced he learned the same weakness in the system and exploited it. Its basically legal bribery. I knew when the campaign was having multiple clandestine meetings with russians associated with NRA exactly what was happening. He bribed bought threatened blackmailed bribed his way to office. The easy part was pretending to be a Christian Republican just before his campaign. He is leading a false Christian cult. And literally is a communist dictatator who hates free speech, hates free press, hates peaceful protest, hates freedom of religion, hates equality for all under the law and is stripping our inalienable rights one by ine. Hes a predator and conman without morals or
      integrity. Sadly just as his uneducated idiotic hypocritical false Christian cult base is demonstrating to be as well. Without people like him there could be no him so i blame the shallow cowards who have elevated him.

    2. @msndrstdwlf BB Thank you so very much. You said it so eloquently. Keep telling this truth. The so call evangelical fake church needs to be reminded of their grave hypocrisy. Their fake prophet has been unveiled and they have proven to World that they are liars and there is not one ounce of integrity among them.
      Anyone who has an education would have known that principle. The founding fathers also played a role when the electoral college was implemented to steal the power from the people if and when the people nominated an individual that would not be conducive to adgenda of the wealthy.
      Thanks again.

    3. Lon Chan watch this video, it’s worse than you think david cay johnston, and you’ll understand why.

    4. Dmc 1960 – The Country voted for retaliation against the 8yr Obama Presidency for the sole reason was because he was Black. Because there’s no way, could Hillary would allow the current and past 3yrs of chaos that has gone on. Just no way. but people hated her, and didn’t come out to vote.

    5. msndrstdwlf BB You are so right!!! Everything you said I agree 100%. I hope for the sake of our Country Trump loses. I know hes not gonna leave if he loses because he will say and do anything to keep power.

    1. thom wessels maybe you should try wearing a jumper with the stripes going downwards so you don’t look so fat. Alternatively cut down on the ’hamberders’ 🤷🏻‍♂️

    2. ​@Zippy Bungle That was the very best you could come up with, Ms Do Dah?
      I’m at a great weight (and color). You? I’m also not comfortable knowing you are completely obsessed about my avatar. It’s a little creepy. Does your ‘ ‘…domestic partner…’ know you’re even online?

    3. @thom wessels Sir the sun hates you look at yourself. It’s evident you don’t even like yourself. The problem you have is your brain.

    1. I still want to know why russia sent millions to turtle man & graham..Because it doesnt matter what bone head liar, failure in chief say, they will back him up. They have forgotten America. Money is more important

    2. Mitch McConnell surely is Chinas’ they gave him a Chinese princess, Russia gave him $200,000,000 they own McConnell. McConnell is Americas’ ugliest prostitute.

    3. @carbon copy I call them Russian republicans and we have too many of them. Russian Fox news is determined 24/7 to protect Russia from interfering in the 2016 election and say nothing about Russia might interfere in the 2020 election.

    4. @Richard Mendez The 200 million is not accurate but the John birch Koch brothers gave McConnell 20 million to obstruct everything a black president wanted to do for this country. If you notice the Koch foundations do not care about Russian interference in the election.

  3. very well said, ty everyone. btw, there are still plenty of russian trolls on youtube and posting on facebook on a regular basis.

    1. @Cindy Pomerleau Amazes me that so many in the South continue to vote against their own personal economic interests! Years ago I though everyone was economically self interested.

    2. @Malca’s Grace while that would certainly be fun, they want us to do just that. for every direct reply to them, they receive 85 rubles ($1.15). i refuse to enrich them. every once in a while i reply to my own comment, making fun of them. i try never to mention them by name, to keep them from getting paid. talking about what a worldwide laughingstock is their putin usually sends them scurrying away 🙂

    3. @Malca’s Grace hey, if you want a good laugh, google putin skating or putin falling. it is hilarious. the clumsy oaf tries to show off his ice skating and hockey ‘ability’ and falls on his face, lol. that is how i troll them via my own reply, mentioning that.

    4. @mary jones As someone who skipped grades. I long ago sussed out that some people are stupid and remain so. I am still surprised by their number.

  4. US Supreme court is not buying his lawers’ BS. Uh Oh.
    My good friend PUTIN ? BS (what was in that letter hand carried to DJT from Putin? )
    Donald the vics are just not buying the bull.

    1. @Susan Baron besides a copy and case comment what about your opinion on Donald Trump discrediting American institutions? You don’t have an opinion on that? Are you saying that his discrediting is Justified?

    2. @Terry Bryant and you don’t think that Russia is a totally totalitarian government!!! Russia’s total economy is less than California’s.! Putin is a murderous dictator!!! We don’t need Russia….. China has 10 times the economy that Russia has!!! Even the Trump family has all of their products made in China!! China needs to improve on HUMAN RIGHTS… BUT YOU NEVER HEAR TRUMP MENTION HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS!!!!! BECAUSE HE IS A WANNABE FASCIST, DICTATOR!!!

    3. Susan Baron Wow, the lack of common sense and any type of mental stability in your ridiculous and psychotic rant/comment is lacking significantly!
      You are incredibly deranged just like the junkie lunatic, you’ve drunken too much of the stupid juice there’s no turning back now. And there are no recovery for dead brain cells, sorry comrade.
      You choose to live in a bubble of stupidity and ignorance, and you will rot in it.

    4. @Susan Baron
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  5. Perry here from Liverpool ; I didn’t realise Joe Scarborough was a Reds fan 🤗
    All the more reason for subscribing to ” Morning Joe ”
    Although I was a bit concerned when he went off on a rant recently.
    I’ve become fascinated by watching YouTube videos of how Donald Trump is dealing with the Corona virus ; he debases the Office of the President of the USA.
    Let’s hope the Supreme Court doesn’t confirm him as the King of the USA
    We had a “mad King” ; George the Third, whose legacy will forever be that he was the King who lost the Americas.
    YNWA

  6. This is Russia’s economical attack, overspending on Military was the downfall of the USSR. Not only are Republicans ignorant to science they are ignorant to history as well as we keep dumping trillion after trillion into the military budget when Russia destabilized us with a few troll farms and computers.

    1. john carioscia how did that make America great again thing workout? He was going to run on keep America great but quickly flushed that idea down his golden toilet LOL how’s that 401k? Your president got impeached by a girl LOL

    2. karl marx obamagate is Obama living rent-free in Trump’s head LOL

    3. @Stev Rex Balh blah blah! Socialist Freeloader! Maybe STINK FINGERS JOE will check out your old ladies “oil”, see if it’s a gusher, or just another “dry hole”.

    4. @john carioscia do you judge your president the same way you Judge Joe? Remember the blue States bailout the welfare red States.

  7. Trump believes Putin because it benefits him. He’s letting all his friends out of jail because he knows this very well could be the end for his presidency

    1. @Sandra Caster They will get rid of him as soon as they are done with him. It just shows how they are willing to sacrifice their own for power and money.

    2. Hopefully@Moe Snert
      For evidence I give you his expressed glowing love for any tyrant who gives him a parade, his hiring sycophants to replace anyone on staff who tries to tell him 😡 what he doesn’t want to hear even though they speak needed warnings and truth.

  8. We might not be a Socialist country but we have nuclear bombs, no Universal Healthcare and people standing in long lines for free food.

    1. Boris Johnson supposedly loves the NHS in the UK and pledges to increase funding for it. So I asked a maga head if that makes him a socialist. Answer: Fake News! So what is a socialist? Answer: Anyone Fox news tells me is. Anyone who dares oppose Don the Disinfectant Con Put Light In The Body didn’t know the flu killed people as late as March 6 2020 Trump!

    2. @Wheatie Sweetie It’s become apparent to me that Andrew Yang was right and the rich are finally catching on. They need to keep us consuming to keep this system going. As we all now see, tying our need to eat to keeping a job is not the most reliable or humane solution. Our economy is based on us spending, not working; so give us the money; free us from wage slavery and allow us to choose our own paths. The economy is a system where only those who contribute money are rewarded. As the rich now see, they need us to continue their silly little Monopoly game! Bernie was wrong! People need a steady source of money like the rich!

    3. @Wheatie Sweetie don’t worry most of the bailout money went to the capital list, corporations, the wealthy oh, the scrums date through the Common Man it would hurt them the most though oh, nothing is painful is helping the working class or the middle class for the greedy republicans in Congress

    4. We DO have socialism for the wealthy… Too Big To Fail, etc. I”m failing these days, but too small for any notice. I thought a good society was meant to repel worst of rapacious capitalism. Hah.

  9. The details will come out one day and trump along with moscow mitch will be shown for the traitors they are.

    1. Mr Private fat chance. Trump is a dream target for Putin. His brittle ego, narcissism and desire for affirmation means he will do anything to be President…. Anything. He doesnt care about the USA. He cares only about his oen ego and image.

    2. @Petyr Kowalski if putin did or dose interfere there is not one thing we or anyone do anything about it,putin needs to mind his own business I do not want trump back in but I’m afraid it will happen again

    3. If you believe what Putin says……..?????? I think Teflon Don will need his buddy to help him in November(again!!!)

    4. I hope Russia interferes but I don’t think it happened in the first place. With Russian interference maybe America will become a “normal” country instead of the world bully.

  10. The Drumpf team had over 150 contacts with russians! Is that normal during an election? No, not even a little bit!

    1. @Dave Moore Not entirely true but I get your point. I do not expect anything legal to happen to donal.

    1. JoanAnn Malarkey
      He man is the biggest liar there is. His denials mean nothing. Read on Google
      About a girl called Katie Johnson. Curl
      Your hair

  11. Republicans have to cheat to win but some how we have to over whelm the system with voting numbers never seen to overcome the cheating and get Donald Trump from office at all cost. When Bill Barr said the winners write history I heard him loud and clear. He’s going to allow anything to help Trump win re-election. They’re telling us to our face they’re going to cheat to win. All of the Senate told us when they let Trump off the hook for cheating that cheating is ok. It’s not and the media needs to keep hammering on this and adding pressure on Mitch McConnell, Bill Bare and Donald Trump to protect our democracy and elections. We all should be afraid.

    1. Hephaestus I will, say this only once, because you asked 😊
      The entire political system, regardless of geography or political preference, ALL systems are corrupt.

    2. @Byron Young it’s not the Russians who CONTROL THE SUPREME COURT,, IT’S THE CORPORATION’S, AND THE 1% WHO CONTROL 50% OF THE WEALTH IN THE COUNTRY….. THEY CONTROL THE SUPREME COURT,, AND ALL THE POLITICIANS WHO TAKE MONEY FROM THEM,,, AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA THAT THEY OWN… JUST LOOK AT HOW THEY TREATED BERNIE SANDERS,, WHO WAS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THEIR POWER!!! LIKE BERNIE SANDERS SAID,, JOE BIDEN IT’S 100 TIMES BETTER THAN TRUMP AND I BELIEVE THAT,, IF YOU WANT BERNIE SANDERS TO HAVE A VOICE,,, VOTE BLUE…. DON’T FALL FOR THE OLD ARGUMENT THAT THEY ARE ALL THE SAME SO DON’T VOTE… THAT’S HOW TRUMP CAME TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!! RUSSIAN TROLLS HAVE BEEN PUSHING THAT SAME MESSAGE,, IF WE ALL VOTE REPUBLICANS WILL LOSE,, EVERYTHING!!!! AND WE CAN BEGIN TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!! FROM THE CORPORATIONS THAT ARE CONTROLLING IT!!!!

    3. ​@John Edward, agree. I have to show my ID before I get a ballot. I don’t know WTH Hephaestus talking about.

    4. @John Edward Oh ! Thanks… you are educating my 3 neurons and I really appreciate it.
      Sir, pardon for my insolence, but.. still….my 3 neurons say this:
      There had to be a CONCRETE VOTE FRAUD fact to twist the election. So, 1) The Russians implanted a virus on the computers, so votes for Hillary were switched for the orange-deplorable-man.. but how ? There is no evidence. 2) The Russians have a satellite which sent a hypnotizing ray which made good pro-Hillary Americans to go vote for the orange. ….See, yes, yes, there are thousands of pages of the collusion…yes, yes…Russians were calling Trump everyday telling him “orange-boy we are with you, hurra, hurra!”, their spies were doing malevolent plans, Trump was in full agreement “Yes help me help me!”, etc. but….HOW THIS TRANSLATED INTO SPECIFIC VOTES ? ? ? 1), 2) or you sir, have a 3)?. Thanks for illuminating me. CONCRETE VOTE FRAUD explanation please.

    5. @Hephaestus REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS IN STATES THAT VOTE BY MAIL,, TRUST THAT THEIR VOTES ARE ACCURATELY COUNTED… AND THERE IS A PAPER TRAIL,, IN CASE OF A RECOUNT THAT IS VERIFIABLE.. WE WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO RELYING ON VOTING MACHINES AND COMPUTERS…. WHEN YOU VOTE BY MAIL THERE’S A SERIAL NUMBER ON YOUR BALLOT, THAT CAN BE TRACED BEEN VERIFIED THAT IT WAS COUNTED… WHY DO YOU THINK DONALD TRUMP and the Republicans,, ARE SO AFRAID OF US ,,VOTING BY MAIL!!!!!

  12. My father was an intel officer in the Canadian military. He was very worried about Putin and the GRU. He said they were much more dangerous than most people imagine.

    1. There are throngs of them, and they’re not always obvious. Many pose as one thing and implant subtle little lies that can be perpetuated and fully capitalized on by other trolls. People’s best bet is just to assume any person they’re interacting with online is a troll – and for the love of god, don’t get your news from Facebook or the comments section of a website (such as this.) Always followup on sources, and if their is no source provided be highly skeptical. That’s my PSA for today. Oh – and vote in November!

    2. Yes it’s a problem. And the republican controlled senate blocked efforts to stop russian bots.

      I think the RNC leadership was compromised in 2016 as well.

    3. Whenever you see MAGA forever, Trump 2020, what a wonderful president we have, support America not China, and Hillary and Obama are the real threat to America you most likely have seen them. It’s either the bots or severely programed Trumpers.

  13. He’ll never be, “strong and powerful” as he so loves to say! He’s a bully and backs down if any one dare question him. He does nothing but lie and has no answers of truth to give to the American public. This has been the worst 3 and a half years of my life. I couldn’t physically take another FOUR YEARS of this mobster and his goon squad!

    1. @Julio Chavez With a name like yours you better keep your ID in order here on the border for the last 3 years they hastle every one that looks brown. Many of my friends have been harrassed. American citizens. Worse than ever used to be safe go across the border shop have some great Mexican food. Not any longer humptytrumpty saw to that.

    2. He is small and insignificant. His lack of integrity has allowed this country to spiral down into chaos.

    1. CW? With who? The right? You mean all the crazy gun nuts who have been training their whole lives to shoot guns? Those people?🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣 yeah okay.

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