Del. Stacey Plaskett On The Downplaying Of Capitol Riot 1

Del. Stacey Plaskett On The Downplaying Of Capitol Riot

 

Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett, who represents the U.S. Virgin Islands, discusses the danger posed by her colleagues who were at the Capitol on January 6th but continue to repeat lies and downplay what happened

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56 comments

  1. If you ever turn on fox news during primetime, it’s pretty clear the extent to which it resembles nothing like actual credible news.
    No wonder a study found that people who only watch fox are actually LESS informed than people who don’t watch ANY news.

    1. Fox is too busy whining about ‘important’ issues… like canceling Dr. Seuss. (And the funny thing about that? The Dr. Seuss Foundation decided to pull a few problematic books from publication when no one asked them to).

    2. @Bald Eagle Goes Caw Caw Me too, as a kid. Too bad my mom donated them to charity. Grrr…
      My fave was “Go Dog Go”, with the last two-page spread of the dogs partying up in a huge tree. lol

  2. The transformation of the GOP from plutocracy-loving gentleman’s club to homegrown American ISIS is still ongoing and it will only get worse. Years ago, Limbaugh was considered “extreme” and now even Alex Jones is quaint.

    1. @The Logic Party You win? What exactly are you winning.

      You listed numbers – data, if you insist – I give you credit for that, but that data is not comparable, because what you’re comparing is not comparable. Apples to penguins.

      Look up:
      McNamara fallacy
      Proving too much
      Misleading vividness
      Retrospective determinism
      Post hoc ergo propter hoc
      Wrong direction
      Regression fallacy

      Nobody is saying there were no riots in conjunction with BLM protests. And yes, there was property damage, assaults, and lives lost during those riots. But you are conflating the BLM protests (peaceful – but certainly emotional and angry), aimed at petitioning for serious law enforcement reforms, with violent, chaotic riots. And then, you are comparing that false conflation with a single event – a violent, deadly, destructive insurrection and attempted coup. That coup was building for about 4 years, and it culminated on 6 January 2021, in large part due to Donald Trump’s invective, hate-filled, fear-mongering rhetoric. (That guy is a complete lunatic – topic for another discussion.) These are two completely different things. The insurrection was intended to be violent, the BLM protests were not.

      Now, if you want to compare those summer riots with the insurrection, that’s getting closer to logical. But even still, the riots during the summer were not intended to overthrow a government. They were chaotic, unplanned riots (not good, and nobody is saying they were). But what happened on 6 January 2021 was a premeditated, predetermined action – intended to be violent, and seemed to be aimed at actually killing several members of Congress. Did I misrepresent that? Let me know what you think.

      And again I ask, are you seriously supporting the insurrection at the Capitol on 6 January 2021? Was that a reasonable, normal reaction to a secure, free, and fair presidential election?

      These events are not comparable, and there’s no winning here – you are either supportive of an attempted illegal coup, or you’re not. You seem to be supportive of it – I’m not. And you’re arguments trying to downplay an insurrection are fairly alarming.

    2. @Phil Groves the debate. I won the debate. 5 rounds of responses and you’ve not offered a single counter point. Measurable data is all that matters. I’ll list it out again for you racist.

      Blm riots – over a year Capital riot 1 day
      Blm riots killed dozens Capital riots 4 dead
      Blm – 2 weeks Of seiging on a federal building in Oregon, 1 week of holding a police station and entire block walked off in Washington Capital riots – delayed confirmation of the president for a few hours
      Blm – tens of billions in cost to the country Capital riots a few million.

    3. @Phil Groves Also there’s no point in you continuing to make the bold face lie I support the capital rioters. Anyone following the thread can see the three posts where I point out what pathetic dipshits they were. When you have to lie to try to win an argument you should re evaluate your position, racist.

      You’re also misapplying you’re fallacies. Misleading vividness for example isnt applicable and would actually support my point if it were as the capital riot was one singular event.

    4. @Phil Groves wait, you think Covid was a hoax. I get it now. You’re really a trumper. But why the facade?

    5. @The Logic Party And I almost forgot to mention – calling me names, like ‘racist’, a ‘trumper’, etc. is another logical fallacy. It’s called ‘ad hominem’ – personally attacking your debate opponent because your stance is false, and you know it. It’s how a coward or a bully reacts, when they have been shown to be incorrect.

      And really, you’re loving all this – right?!

    1. Uh huh, and if Q’s last post was Dec 8th, 2020 and the Capitol riot was January 6th, what you’re claiming is entirely false.

  3. Every Republican needs to start their statements with “Q sent me”!
    That’s the level of their aiding and abetting Trump and the MAGA MOB!

    1. And the left wing media doesn’t cover the facts of who the real perpetrators really were. Hmmm, strange world we live in, eh? Sort of like the Matrix.

    2. @Shawn Corbin The real perpetrators were far-right nutters, spurred on by the giant orange manbaby.

    3. @Shawn Corbin But they do cover the facts – Donald, Rudy, Puppet Kevin, Joshie, Teddie, Gosar, Biggs, Brooks, Gaetz, Greene, Paul, Don Jr., Boebert – the list of perps is long – and oddly enough, they all happen to belong to the Republican faction. So, just own up to the fact that the Republican faction is a traitorous group of authoritarian wannabes. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

  4. Jan 6th, 2021 happened and no matter how much gaslighting the GOP throws out that predicament is a stark reality.

    1. @Bald Eagle Goes Caw Caw Everything happened on Jan 6th, 2021 and no one’s going to forget it. Those burnings and looting did NOT involve stopping a certification of Biden’s victory. Nor did it involve trying to “Hang Mike Pence” or the killing of Pelosi and any other congress people these magats could get their hands on. Did you know that ALL of those Magats that invaded, pillaged, murdered a DC cop and injured over 140 DC cops are now on the NO FLY LIST. Yeah, that’s a special list for special people. It will take years to get off that list and No employer will hire someone on that list. So sad

    2. @Bald Eagle Goes Caw Caw That cop died due to the pepper spray and everything else that led up to his heart attack. Do you think he would’ve died on his own?? Nope, those Magats precipitated his heart condition. Yeah, nice try.

    3. @Bald Eagle Goes Caw Caw if someone shoots and wounds me and I have a heart attack during surgery. The person who shot me will still be charged with murder.

    4. @Bald Eagle Goes Caw Caw Wrong! His heart attack was precipitated by those Magats. Nothing you can say will change that. If those Magats weren’t at the DC capitol ATTACKING it he wouldn’t have had his heart attack. There were 4 other people that died that day needlessly AND 2 DC cops committed suicide weeks after this Terrorist attack by the Magats. Keep trying Loser.

  5. New info, Miller talked to Trump after DC mayor’s 12-31 request for help, Or lack there of. But Trump said to Miller, “do whatever it takes to protect protesters”, seems to as part, just the only part that could be said out loud. What else was said? It is just the wierdest thing to say and the way it’s said doesn’t seem complete.

  6. Can we PLEASE have more analysis from Ms. Plaskett? She, her intelligence, is such a pleasure to listen to.

    1. However NOBODY is willing to state the obvious: This was an inside job by white cops who set the stage.. They removed the panic buttons from certain offices .. They reported siknick was murdered.. then waited 4 months to claim he died of a “sudden blood clot” to the head..to protect white attackers from a capitol murder charge.. this is way dirtier and slimey than watergate could ever dream of

    2. @john smith . Even his DAD sad his son told him he was hit on the head during the WHITE terrorist attack.. yeah keep trying to defend your klan buddies boyo

    1. I don’t think that’s what she said, or meant. But I might be misinterpreting your comment. She was making the point that for years Donald Trump was destroying the nation, thwarting and shredding our Constitution, fostering internal fear and hatred, dismantling our democracy – and people like Liz Cheney did and said nothing. They stood aside and were quiet. The smoke was thick and the full-on blaze was imminent – yet they continued to say or do nothing. Until now, when their house (the GOP house) is fully on fire, and possibly beyond saving. It’s a very, very sad predicament. Liz, and so many others, had a chance (many chances) to speak out, but they did not. I believe that’s Rep. Plaskett’s issue.

    2. @Phil Groves the house burning, and now they are speaking up. In other words for 4 years liz said nothing and many others spoke up.

    3. @minister kev Yep – but the ones who were speaking up were not in the Republican faction (except maybe Romney). It’s the GOP house that’s burning – a conflagration – and they have only themselves to blame. And I think Plaskett is just saying like it is – they had a chance, they knew it was happening, and they did nothing. And only now is Liz speaking up and out. Good for Liz now – but it would have been much better for the country if she (and others) had spoken up much earlier. They traded power for principles.

  7. I’m trying to figure out where that type of agenda has really gotten the ignorant racist folks. Not very far from what I can see, but keep trying.

  8. I think the footage speaks for itself. Anybody trying to downplay it agrees with the traitors.

    1. Traitors are someone that goes against the constitution, do some research, socialism which biden and democrats are pushing with their stimulus checks is what goes against the constitution, you idiots are being fooled just like hitler fool his people in to hating Jews. Again do some research

  9. Liz Cheney: Out
    Marjorie Taylor Greene: In
    Matt Gaetz: In

    That tells you everything you need to know about the Republican party.

  10. 2:10 “let’s get back to the grab, take, and gimme gimme” is the upshot. Do the poor slugs who always have their hand out ever give anything back?

  11. Five books everyone should read:
    – ‘The Dictator’s Handbook’
    By: Bruce Bueno de Mesquita and Alastair Smith

    – ‘Black Earth: The Holocaust as History and Warning’
    By: Timothy D. Snyder

    – ‘On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century’
    By: Timothy D. Snyder

    – ‘Our Time Is Now: Power, Purpose, and the Fight for a Fair America’
    By: Stacey Abrams

    – ‘Surviving Autocracy’
    By: Masha Gessen

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