Good News And Bad News For Gaetz As Associate Takes Plea Deal 1

Good News And Bad News For Gaetz As Associate Takes Plea Deal

 

Rachel Maddow looks at the new details in the enduringly gross case of Joel Greenberg, associate of Donald Trump acolyte Rep. Matt Gaetz, and explains why Greenberg's new plea deal is bad news for Gaetz for what it contains, but also for how it treats Greenberg as a witness.
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  1. Matt’s starting to realize his ‘minor’ crime has major repercussions…

    Open the Prison Gaetz!

    1. I don’t think Gaetzs Father can get Matty Boy out of this one like he has done in the past .

    2. It’s impossible to get away with rigging an election. 

      If this election was rigged in certain cities of key swing states, as Donald Trump claims, then this election would have produced a ton of data anomalies and irregularities. We would expect to see things like:

      •Bellwether counties would suddenly stop being bellwether counties despite decades of near 100% consistency

      •Bellwether states such as; Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and North Carolina would suddenly stop being bellwether states despite centuries of near 100% consistency

      •Rigged cities in key swing states would produce implausibly high turnout but demographically identical cities in neighboring states would have normal turnout

      •If an algorithm was used to flip the presidential election then it would leave behind obvious clues like the same two spikes in voter turnout would show up in the data in every county across the country

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of “Biden-only ballots” with no down ballot selections in those same key swing states and reports of “Biden-only ballots” with perfectly filled in circles and no creases or folds

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of adjudicated ballots in those same key swing states and reports of voting machines with unexplainable high error rates sending ballots to adjudication

      •There would be suspicious activity during the election in key swing states like; blocking poll watchers, kicking out Republican observers, vote counting would stop on election night, video of election workers scanning the same ballots repeatedly after observers had left, and evidence of boxes of ballots being dropped off past deadlines in the dark of the night

      •There would be suspicious activity after the election in key swing states like; missing chain of custody documents, missing paper ballots, refusal to turn over routers, withholding of administrative passwords, deleted election databases, and corrupt election officials would do everything to stop full forensic audits from happening

      •The media would be working in overdrive to say rudimentary audits were enough to verify the election and they would be discrediting any full forensic audits that were ongoing while social media would be banning everyone from talking about election fraud

      •If Donald Trump really did win a landslide victory but lost the election due to vote flipping & corrupted machines then you would expect to see a red wave, such as Republicans flipping 12 house seats, and winning all 27 house “toss ups”, while Democrats have a poor performance on election night despite Biden winning the most votes in American history

      •So obviously, since none of the above was observed in this election, there is no reason to suspect it was a fraudulent election. Joe Biden is clearly the most popular presidential candidate in American history, the legitimate winner of 81 million votes, and a once in a century type of politician.

  2. Crime incorporated it’s all coming at them and it is not good. The republican’s did say they wanted to drain the swamp, the problem, it’s their swamp

    1. trump drained the swamp an filled it back in with crap it’s now a septic tank that needs pumping Lol

  3. PLEASE THROW MATT GAETZ TO PRISON AND MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN FOR ALL OF US PERIOD!!!!!!!

    1. @Enchanted Homeschool Don Jr did knowingly lie to Mueller, Kushner and Ivanka did too, all for the Trump Tower Meeting. “I’m loving it”…

    2. @Analogy Accepted Hello greetings… how’re you doing today? I have a proposal for you

    3. But not one picture of goetz doing any Sri g doing just a drug addiction trying to shave off years. Not one picture not one witness that isn’t going to jail. Nobody. The most photographed politician and not one picture. Just a drug addict going to jail. For decades. Want s less time. A known liar. So why would goetz go to jail

    4. @fastguitar hello fastguitar greetings… How are you doing today? I have a proposal for you.

    1. Yes, there’s that, and they always tout the party of Law & Order, GOP is anything but, family values, law & order,& patriotic.

    2. wrong kind of family values . Gaetz is so unfit in so many ways besides the fact that he is a propagandist for the Bad guys

    1. @eponack 100% It was all just a projection campaign. They knew what was out there they just used their base as a weapon just like with the tax issue. The rich has convinced working class ppl to fight for their loopholes and tax havens.

    2. It’s impossible to get away with rigging an election. 

      If this election was rigged in certain cities of key swing states, as Donald Trump claims, then this election would have produced a ton of data anomalies and irregularities. We would expect to see things like:

      •Bellwether counties would suddenly stop being bellwether counties despite decades of near 100% consistency

      •Bellwether states such as; Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and North Carolina would suddenly stop being bellwether states despite centuries of near 100% consistency

      •Rigged cities in key swing states would produce implausibly high turnout but demographically identical cities in neighboring states would have normal turnout

      •If an algorithm was used to flip the presidential election then it would leave behind obvious clues like the same two spikes in voter turnout would show up in the data in every county across the country

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of “Biden-only ballots” with no down ballot selections in those same key swing states and reports of “Biden-only ballots” with perfectly filled in circles and no creases or folds

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of adjudicated ballots in those same key swing states and reports of voting machines with unexplainable high error rates sending ballots to adjudication

      •There would be suspicious activity during the election in key swing states like; blocking poll watchers, kicking out Republican observers, vote counting would stop on election night, video of election workers scanning the same ballots repeatedly after observers had left, and evidence of boxes of ballots being dropped off past deadlines in the dark of the night

      •There would be suspicious activity after the election in key swing states like; missing chain of custody documents, missing paper ballots, refusal to turn over routers, withholding of administrative passwords, deleted election databases, and corrupt election officials would do everything to stop full forensic audits from happening

      •The media would be working in overdrive to say rudimentary audits were enough to verify the election and they would be discrediting any full forensic audits that were ongoing while social media would be banning everyone from talking about election fraud

      •If Donald Trump really did win a landslide victory but lost the election due to vote flipping & corrupted machines then you would expect to see a red wave, such as Republicans flipping 12 house seats, and winning all 27 house “toss ups”, while Democrats have a poor performance on election night despite Biden winning the most votes in American history

      •So obviously, since none of the above was observed in this election, there is no reason to suspect it was a fraudulent election. Joe Biden is clearly the most popular presidential candidate in American history, the legitimate winner of 81 million votes, and a once in a century type of politician.

  4. We as ordinary people have to get drug tested but these elected officials can go out and do lines of coke and keep his/her job? Seems like a huge double standard given it’s a federal job.

    1. @Lex Slate They should also breathalyse every public official when they return from lunch. Anyone who blows numbers should be instantly fired irrespective of the office they hold because if you are under the influence of alcohol your judgement is impaired and therefore any decisions that they make are flawed.

    2. @James Mohler I’ve you ever read the bible you’ll understand why they do (outside their general unhingedness). There’s plenty of madness and cruelty. Apparently I am still paying for Adam and Eve being spoken to by a serpent. Bonkers. It’s a shame it wasn’t Adam and Steve, then perhaps this perceived sin wouldn’t have happened. PS do eat your fruit it’s good for you

  5. So the cosplayer with his tax collector badge and gun is turning states evidence on the other cosplayer who acts like he’s a senator

    1. It’s impossible to get away with rigging an election. 

      If this election was rigged in certain cities of key swing states, as Donald Trump claims, then this election would have produced a ton of data anomalies and irregularities. We would expect to see things like:

      •Bellwether counties would suddenly stop being bellwether counties despite decades of near 100% consistency

      •Bellwether states such as; Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and North Carolina would suddenly stop being bellwether states despite centuries of near 100% consistency

      •Rigged cities in key swing states would produce implausibly high turnout but demographically identical cities in neighboring states would have normal turnout

      •If an algorithm was used to flip the presidential election then it would leave behind obvious clues like the same two spikes in voter turnout would show up in the data in every county across the country

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of “Biden-only ballots” with no down ballot selections in those same key swing states and reports of “Biden-only ballots” with perfectly filled in circles and no creases or folds

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of adjudicated ballots in those same key swing states and reports of voting machines with unexplainable high error rates sending ballots to adjudication

      •There would be suspicious activity during the election in key swing states like; blocking poll watchers, kicking out Republican observers, vote counting would stop on election night, video of election workers scanning the same ballots repeatedly after observers had left, and evidence of boxes of ballots being dropped off past deadlines in the dark of the night

      •There would be suspicious activity after the election in key swing states like; missing chain of custody documents, missing paper ballots, refusal to turn over routers, withholding of administrative passwords, deleted election databases, and corrupt election officials would do everything to stop full forensic audits from happening

      •The media would be working in overdrive to say rudimentary audits were enough to verify the election and they would be discrediting any full forensic audits that were ongoing while social media would be banning everyone from talking about election fraud

      •If Donald Trump really did win a landslide victory but lost the election due to vote flipping & corrupted machines then you would expect to see a red wave, such as Republicans flipping 12 house seats, and winning all 27 house “toss ups”, while Democrats have a poor performance on election night despite Biden winning the most votes in American history

      •So obviously, since none of the above was observed in this election, there is no reason to suspect it was a fraudulent election. Joe Biden is clearly the most popular presidential candidate in American history, the legitimate winner of 81 million votes, and a once in a century type of politician.

    2. @HS You realize that during previous elections, “bellwether counties and states” also stopped being “bellwethers”? The future isn’t set in stone. People move, die, vote, don’t vote, change their minds — nothing is special about historical flukes like “bellwethers.” Bellwethers have increasingly stopped working since W Bush’s first term. And if Democrats actually cheated, don’t you think they would’ve chosen states not completely ruled by the GOP like Arizona and Georgia? America didn’t want or like Trump, so he lost the election. Al Gore vs George Bush came down to 500 votes in Florida, but Gore didn’t try to destroy the country.

      Trump is a nearly 80 yr old petulant baby who doesn’t care about you, the people, or the Constitution. Even when Ted Cruz won the Iowa caucus results in 2016, Trump said the process was rigged and that Cruz cheated. No one was even paying attention to Trump at that time. He has a problem: his ego can’t handle losing, so he lies to delude himself.

    3. Do tax collectors normally walk around looking like wannabe FBI agents? These people watch way too many CSI type tv series , way way too many..

  6. Maybe Gaetz can get his sentence reduced for flipping on Roger Stone. There is that whole pay for pardon issue.

    1. I would like to know if the pardons will be revoked if it is verified it was a pay for pardon thing by trump

    2. It’s impossible to get away with rigging an election. 

      If this election was rigged in certain cities of key swing states, as Donald Trump claims, then this election would have produced a ton of data anomalies and irregularities. We would expect to see things like:

      •Bellwether counties would suddenly stop being bellwether counties despite decades of near 100% consistency

      •Bellwether states such as; Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and North Carolina would suddenly stop being bellwether states despite centuries of near 100% consistency

      •Rigged cities in key swing states would produce implausibly high turnout but demographically identical cities in neighboring states would have normal turnout

      •If an algorithm was used to flip the presidential election then it would leave behind obvious clues like the same two spikes in voter turnout would show up in the data in every county across the country

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of “Biden-only ballots” with no down ballot selections in those same key swing states and reports of “Biden-only ballots” with perfectly filled in circles and no creases or folds

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of adjudicated ballots in those same key swing states and reports of voting machines with unexplainable high error rates sending ballots to adjudication

      •There would be suspicious activity during the election in key swing states like; blocking poll watchers, kicking out Republican observers, vote counting would stop on election night, video of election workers scanning the same ballots repeatedly after observers had left, and evidence of boxes of ballots being dropped off past deadlines in the dark of the night

      •There would be suspicious activity after the election in key swing states like; missing chain of custody documents, missing paper ballots, refusal to turn over routers, withholding of administrative passwords, deleted election databases, and corrupt election officials would do everything to stop full forensic audits from happening

      •The media would be working in overdrive to say rudimentary audits were enough to verify the election and they would be discrediting any full forensic audits that were ongoing while social media would be banning everyone from talking about election fraud

      •If Donald Trump really did win a landslide victory but lost the election due to vote flipping & corrupted machines then you would expect to see a red wave, such as Republicans flipping 12 house seats, and winning all 27 house “toss ups”, while Democrats have a poor performance on election night despite Biden winning the most votes in American history

      •So obviously, since none of the above was observed in this election, there is no reason to suspect it was a fraudulent election. Joe Biden is clearly the most popular presidential candidate in American history, the legitimate winner of 81 million votes, and a once in a century type of politician.

    3. @HS Thanks for the sensible conclusions. Let’s now wait for the usual Cyber Ninjas / AZ audit defenders… Stay safe.

  7. Matt better keep an eye on his own back Gaetz when he gets to PRISON! I’m sure he will make a great wife to some inmate! LOL!

  8. This Matt Gaetz Sugar Daddy scandal looks to have more juice than Pizzagate ever did. Congratulations to the party of personal responsibility & family values.

  9. These “people” are soooo disgusting , greenburg , gaetz , stone …. just looking at their faces makes my skin crawl

    1. @Erasmo Ganceres Hello greetings… how’re you doing today? I have a proposal for you

    2. @Erasmo Ganceres It will be okay if you leave me your email to text you so as to keep things professional thanks

    3. @Morgan Yenesia and how is that supposed to be professional? Why don’t you add your email info so that everybody who wants it knows how to contact you?

  10. The question is will his cowardice outweigh his narcissism long enough for him to punch his own ticket…

    1. Yes, that laptop isn’t going away. Neither is Tara Reade

    2. @BidenHarris: MAD Magazine’s Person Of The Year

      Old fool.
      The laptop Fox News wouldn’t cover except for desperate you?
      The laptop that has Rudy’s fingerprints all over it?
      And when are you going to give Katie Johnson her day in court gramps?

    3. It’s impossible to get away with rigging an election. 

      If this election was rigged in certain cities of key swing states, as Donald Trump claims, then this election would have produced a ton of data anomalies and irregularities. We would expect to see things like:

      •Bellwether counties would suddenly stop being bellwether counties despite decades of near 100% consistency

      •Bellwether states such as; Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and North Carolina would suddenly stop being bellwether states despite centuries of near 100% consistency

      •Rigged cities in key swing states would produce implausibly high turnout but demographically identical cities in neighboring states would have normal turnout

      •If an algorithm was used to flip the presidential election then it would leave behind obvious clues like the same two spikes in voter turnout would show up in the data in every county across the country

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of “Biden-only ballots” with no down ballot selections in those same key swing states and reports of “Biden-only ballots” with perfectly filled in circles and no creases or folds

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of adjudicated ballots in those same key swing states and reports of voting machines with unexplainable high error rates sending ballots to adjudication

      •There would be suspicious activity during the election in key swing states like; blocking poll watchers, kicking out Republican observers, vote counting would stop on election night, video of election workers scanning the same ballots repeatedly after observers had left, and evidence of boxes of ballots being dropped off past deadlines in the dark of the night

      •There would be suspicious activity after the election in key swing states like; missing chain of custody documents, missing paper ballots, refusal to turn over routers, withholding of administrative passwords, deleted election databases, and corrupt election officials would do everything to stop full forensic audits from happening

      •The media would be working in overdrive to say rudimentary audits were enough to verify the election and they would be discrediting any full forensic audits that were ongoing while social media would be banning everyone from talking about election fraud

      •If Donald Trump really did win a landslide victory but lost the election due to vote flipping & corrupted machines then you would expect to see a red wave, such as Republicans flipping 12 house seats, and winning all 27 house “toss ups”, while Democrats have a poor performance on election night despite Biden winning the most votes in American history

      •So obviously, since none of the above was observed in this election, there is no reason to suspect it was a fraudulent election. Joe Biden is clearly the most popular presidential candidate in American history, the legitimate winner of 81 million votes, and a once in a century type of politician.

    4. @HS
      Plus they keep glossing over the fact that millions of independents came out to stop Trump. A big reason he got destroyed was his own terribly low popularity.

  11. I suppose the prosecution will just have to try to connect the dots. Fortunately for them, there are only two dots.

    1. The House Judiciary Committee is charged with overseeing the administration of justice within the federal courts, administrative agencies and FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES.

      This is a huge CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Matt Gaetz should be removed from the Judiciary Committee immediately until the investigation has been completed.

    2. It’s impossible to get away with rigging an election. 

      If this election was rigged in certain cities of key swing states, as Donald Trump claims, then this election would have produced a ton of data anomalies and irregularities. We would expect to see things like:

      •Bellwether counties would suddenly stop being bellwether counties despite decades of near 100% consistency

      •Bellwether states such as; Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and North Carolina would suddenly stop being bellwether states despite centuries of near 100% consistency

      •Rigged cities in key swing states would produce implausibly high turnout but demographically identical cities in neighboring states would have normal turnout

      •If an algorithm was used to flip the presidential election then it would leave behind obvious clues like the same two spikes in voter turnout would show up in the data in every county across the country

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of “Biden-only ballots” with no down ballot selections in those same key swing states and reports of “Biden-only ballots” with perfectly filled in circles and no creases or folds

      •There would be hundreds of thousands of adjudicated ballots in those same key swing states and reports of voting machines with unexplainable high error rates sending ballots to adjudication

      •There would be suspicious activity during the election in key swing states like; blocking poll watchers, kicking out Republican observers, vote counting would stop on election night, video of election workers scanning the same ballots repeatedly after observers had left, and evidence of boxes of ballots being dropped off past deadlines in the dark of the night

      •There would be suspicious activity after the election in key swing states like; missing chain of custody documents, missing paper ballots, refusal to turn over routers, withholding of administrative passwords, deleted election databases, and corrupt election officials would do everything to stop full forensic audits from happening

      •The media would be working in overdrive to say rudimentary audits were enough to verify the election and they would be discrediting any full forensic audits that were ongoing while social media would be banning everyone from talking about election fraud

      •If Donald Trump really did win a landslide victory but lost the election due to vote flipping & corrupted machines then you would expect to see a red wave, such as Republicans flipping 12 house seats, and winning all 27 house “toss ups”, while Democrats have a poor performance on election night despite Biden winning the most votes in American history

      •So obviously, since none of the above was observed in this election, there is no reason to suspect it was a fraudulent election. Joe Biden is clearly the most popular presidential candidate in American history, the legitimate winner of 81 million votes, and a once in a century type of politician.

  12. It’s all bad news for Matty Gaetz. The prosecutors don’t need Greenberg’s word, Greenberg got the receipts.

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