How Biden Administration Underestimated 'Inevitable Outcome' In Afghanistan 1

How Biden Administration Underestimated ‘Inevitable Outcome’ In Afghanistan

 

Amid the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, former CIA director John Brennan and New York Times correspondent Peter Baker join Andrea Mitchell to discuss why Taliban succeeded after the U.S. withdrawal and how the country quickly unraveled nearly 20 years after the September 11th attacks.
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76 comments

  1. No one has cared about Afghanistan since 2002…I find it amusing how everyone is so angry we are leaving Afghanistan all of a sudden. everyone said get out..we did..oh you meen theres consequences of doing that?! WHY DID WE LEAVE.

    1. @Jimmy Flores Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t the previous administration gloating about how they were going to pull out for 4 years?

    2. @Gambit2483 Even your overlords at CNN are calling out his incompetence but again here comes the government kool aid drinkers to defend their incompetent King

    3. @Jimmy Flores I love how you Chicom trolls use a capital letter for words like king while not ending a sentence. Yes in China your ‘brand’ is called ‘kool aid’. Cos Cool Aid was already taken right? Good thing we have the EO’s on record at the US National Archives. Taliban were all in prison helpless and handcuffed to the walls. Untill Trump signed their release. Else there would be no Taliban forces.

    4. @Grand Master 75,000 Taliban were chained to walls? They were all in civilian clothes and as soon as we started leaving they started coming out of the wood work. It’s funny when liberals pretend to be smart when everyone knows your side breeds stupidity

    5. @Grand Master Grand master of the klan great name or do you think that klan you are in is spelt with a c as well?

  2. Of course “US caught offguard.” After 20 years pouring support and trillions of dollars you would think they would be able to fend for themselves by now…longer than a few days anyway.

    1. @T&D CLips Pipe dream. They are committing war crimes, slaughtering, raping and forcing marriages. All women are being ordered to marry. Nothing kinder or gentler than that. The arms will end with the Iran. Iran is already embedded with the Taliban. You are a naive fool.

    2. They went unpaid many times. Ill-equipped and that number is inflated. Iran is heavily embedded with the Taliban. They have their militia with them. You are so naive.

    3. @T&D CLips K so let’s all see that real factual report you mention? Or did you just make it up? So naieve to believe anyone would fall for lies.

    4. @Grand Master unless what Biden was reading in ‘non-factual’
      i doubt Presidents would be given non-factual reports on critical issue as such….i talking # of Afghanistan troops.
      nb: listen to Biden speech

    1. And it’s all those people who have a husband or boyfriend or family from Afghanistan that’s talking crap on the Media why they don’t go to Afghanistan and go fight the Talibans for another 30 years. Let’s see if they can cope. Those US soldiers also got families back home. Who wants to be with there families.

    2. @Nolene Abrahams I have nothing but my Heart and prayers go out to every soul and those who made it home. Thank u.

    3. Joey was advised his plan wouldn’t work!! But he didn’t care. What a POS!!! The absolutely worst president ever!!!!!!!

    4. @Reid Earl what do you mean? Trump had the same plan and started the pullout (as I agree should have been done long ago) and said in April he Would have done it sooner than Biden. I don’t like Biden, but am not living in a fantasy land thinking this would have ended any other way. Trump & Biden knew it would collapse- the world is only shocked by how fast. Don’t be mislead by blind politics.

    5. So…Biden planned this to distract us from the Orange Traitor’s sedition, enoluments, fraud, election interference, and tax evasion trials?
      Or, like all Trumpicans, can’t you remember last week?

    1. @wwwaimiecapricecom nothing to do with Trump pulling out 7,000 troops without the taliban doing anything they agreed to! How much of a target do you think the 2,500 he left were? Nothing to do with Trump holding negotiations with the talban and not including the Afghans in these deals? Nothing to so with the deal Trump made to leave on May 1st? Trump was bragging a month ago about this being his deal and slagging Biden off for not withdrawing quick enough, to the cheers of his MAGA morons!! You lot are a bunch of hypocrites, you’ve all been chanting to Bring our troop home for 4 years, now you’ve about turned. Typical right wing cowards who can’t think for themselves, have to wait and see what dear leader has to say and Fox news of course.

    2. @Kevin Angus He was great for the country. People were working. The economy was great. Crime was much less. There was no border crisis. There was no Afghani crisis. There was some sort of crisis for women I guess… since we had a march against God knows what policy. He hadn’t made any policies at the time of the march. There was a lot of hate… from the Left though.

    3. @Ami L And you name by name the US President under which people were not working? Americans have been working since the day the US was founded last I checked history. Who told you all what you claim? Putino? Xi? You know those losers endlessly scream propaganda without any evidence ever right? Yes you do! And your doing it.

    1. @Lefty Loser anywhere outside of the country, like the nearest military bases. then to any countries willing to take them in like Canada, and the US

    2. @Kern Albert seeing as how they’re thousands of trump insurrectionists still in this country alive, it’s a drop in the bucket lol

  3. The system failed when there was barely an Afghan government to start with. Their leaders fled as soon as Americans troops left and Taliban started marching in.

    1. Well… that seems cowardly… but sensible… if they know they can’t win, why die when 2 decades of war have turned your country into a hellhole?
      If you definitely can’t save your homeland… find a new country lol.

  4. The Afghan army had little motivation or morale to fight after the US withdrawal. One US soldier wrote that an AA soldier quit one day and told him “you are here to fight for me.”

    1. Here we see the Russian edit troll bot people. Yet we see no writing shown from any ‘US soldiers’.

    2. @shelton mackey Putin’s trolls can change reality itself. What use is a fact against that? I love how Russia made up ‘AA soldiers’. As if that is a thing in the USAF!

  5. The same “reporters” who cheered on the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq are “deeply upset” by how things turned out in those countries. Nobody is buying this pearl clutching now. I guess I’ll skip the news for a few days until another shiny object is dangled in front of their faces and they all move on.

  6. There’s people clinging to aircraft & Brennan managed to turn it into “attacks on the homeland”

    1. @Tim There is always a Trump lover that will have some stupid comment. Trump lives in your head Rent FREE.. Enjoy!!!!!

    2. They often went unpaid, unequipped. You really think they didn’t try when they knew the Taliban was going to slaughter them? Iran embedded themselves in the Taliban. Did you really think it was Taliban alone? Completely naive and ignorant. Also, Biden’s 300,000 off by 250,000. Get a clue and stop parroting propaganda.

    3. @sofakings2pid This world is full of sin, people have free will and this world is brief in comparison to eternity. We don’t see things on eternal timeline like God. Lean not on your own understanding. But your religious bigotry is noted.

  7. I feel sorry for all the people that served there and paid with their lives, not forgetting those maimed or injured as well. No point in training an army if they won’t fight. Their President fleeing and leaving the Afghan people to their fate about sums up the leadership that the US and its allies had to deal with. This is a humiliation almost on a par with Saigon in 1975. Another humanitarian disaster awaits and probably increase in terrorism as well with the Taliban’s return.

    1. THIS IS WORSE, IT SHOWS WE DID NOT LEARN ANYTHING FROM VIETNAM WHICH WAS A THIRTY YEAR EXPERIENCE WE FINANCED THE FRENCH TRYING TO RETURN IN 1945 TO THEIR DEFEAT AT DIEN BIEN PHU IN 1954, WE THEN PROPPED UP AND SUPPORTED IN 1955 A CORRUPT REGIME OF THE DIEM BROTHERS IN THE SOUTH UNTIL THEIR ASSISINATION 3 WEEKS BEFORE JFK. THERE WERE ABOUT 8-10 COUPS FROM THEIR DEMISE TILL WE PROPPED UP THIEU AND KY IN 1965 AND WE SENT IN MARINES ON MARCH 8TH,1965 TO STOP THE FALL OF THE NATION BECAUSE THE NLF/VC WERE BEATING THE SOUTH TO A PULP. IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME THAT THEY WOULD FALL. WITH THE LARGE US TROOP BUILD UP FROM 1965-1967, US TROOPS AND THEIR GENERALS OBSERVED THAT THE ENEMY VC/NVA WAS LESS EQUIPPED THAN THEIR SOUTHERN BROTHERS ; BUT THEY FOUGHT WITH A FANATICISM TO THE DEATH, THEY LIVED IN TUNNELS, THEY MARCHED SIX MONTHS IN SANDALS IN JUNGLES TO GET TO THE FIGHT IN THE SOUTH, THEY TATOOED ON THEIR ARMS AND CHEST BORN IN THE NORTH TO DIE IN THE SOUTH. THEY SUFFERED TREMENDOUS CASUALTIES AND HARDSHIPS, WHEN NVA UNITS WERE WIPED OUT THEY JUST SIMPLY REFITTED THEM WITH NEW PEOPLE AND MONTHS LATER SENT BACK TO FIGHT. WE CALLED THEIR FANATICISM, COMMUNIST DRIVEN AND MISSED THE WHOLE PICTURE WHICH LED TO OUR DEFEAT THERE IN 1975. IT WAS A CIVIL WAR AND NATIONALISM IS WHAT DROVE THEM TO THE LENGTHS THEY WENT TO. THE VIETNAMESE HAD FOUGHT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGAINST MONGOLS, CHINESE THE FRENCH; WHEN AMERICA CAME IT WAS JUST ANOTHER ENEMY TO BE DEFEATED:THE MOST POWERFUL ONE. BUT THEY KNEW TWO THINGS, AMERICA WOULD TIRE FROM A LONG BLOODY WAR WITH NO PROGRESS AND ONE DAY WE WOULD GO HOME. THE TALIBAN MAY BE MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALIST OR TERRORIST, BUT THEY ARE NATIONALIST FIRST AND FOREMOST THEY ALSO KNEW TWO THINGS AMERICA WOULD TIRE OF A LONG BLOODY WAR WITH NO PROGRESS, AND THAT ONE DAY WE WOULD GO HOME! THE AFGHANS HAVE FOUGHT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, WE WERE JUST ANOTHER ENEMY TO BE DEFEATED. READ RUDYARD KIPLING’S FAMOUS QUOTE ON AFGHANISTAN.

    1. @OllieR Da da comrade Putin says ‘no way’ so that becomes the truth right? Why not focus on you Russians ending a sentence like 1st graders all can do? Jimmy Ward proves you wrong. He received the Victoria Cross because he held on? WWII veteran and to this very day he can even proved Putin bots lies wrong. Thank you for your service Jimmy!

  8. Afghanistan is an ancient country led by tribal leaders, it didnt matter when the US left the result would have been the same. The Afghan military relied on other countries to save their country from the Taliban,when they needed to fight for their own country.

    1. @Grand Master Again, I have nothing to do with the NSA report…you are making zero sense. Take your meds!

    2. @Ryan Shaffer Repeating your denial is what the NSA report said anti US trolls would do. Makes perfect sense. We are all seeing you do it you know? Sorry the US Constitution stands in the way of your lies against it. Endless rants about the drugs you use only shows your desperation. Shame facts make sense and you got nothing comment after comment. But go ahead. Make another comments about your drugs? NSA told us you troll would go off topic when we expose your lies against the US.

    3. @Grand Master What? Are you really doing drugs? I have no clue what you are talking about. Looks like you may be paranoid and need a psychologist.

    4. @Ryan Shaffer More ranting and personal attack covered up by denial. Luckily that is word for word in the NSA report. Shame you will never be able to read from any US public source. Can’t make Putin release that information right? When the debate is over? Slander becomes the tool of the loser.

    5. @Grand Master Look, anyone who reads this, can see you are a paranoid lunatic. I will not bother responding anymore who is like this.

    1. @René Well you first need to get an education and pass a 1st grade written test. Then you can enlist in whatever s-hole military your banana republic has. Throught history we see the facts and proof. You don’t need a weapon to fight.

    2. Yes they are , U.K. said they’ll help the most vulnerable woman and children but it’s always the same , the asylum seekers who cross the channel
      On a boat are always young men

    3. @Edward Verduzco Cognitive dissonance is real. They were also on a wheel well. Just trying to get on, they know what is coming. It’s called desperate. Taliban is committing war crimes… The only thing that is fishy is you can’t grasp the situation. You’re either lying or dumb, maybe both. Either way its pathetic.

  9. Sometimes one has to accept that no matter what you do you will not get the outcome you desired. In those cases, you have to stop throwing money at a bad situation, cut your losses and move on. It takes courage to do so regardless of the criticism others may pile on.

    1. All about the money. How many US soldiers had to die to make your money? Tell us how many. Stop crying about the money you lost.

  10. If you are somewhere for 20 years and they retake it in a week, you should’ve left at least 15 years ago.

    1. @Grand Master Yep, inflation from ought Eleven from a nickel prevails in another mega fumble by the Biden Admin, et al., that includes Gen. Millie Vanillie’s utter lack of leadership as Head of the Joints Chief of Staff. Pathetic.

    2. @Sheogorath LMAO. How do you *know that they are not already here with OUR open borders compliments of an inept Traitor and Liar as *Chief Commander?* Seriously? You’re too out of touch, very young, or just plain stupid.

    3. @Cora Wahine That makes no sense. We do have the NSA report telling us anti US trolls would show up namecalling like a pathetic child. I wil just stay on topic with the report as proof and evidence. No idea what your talking about at all.

    4. @Cora Wahine Thanks for calling me a mean name I won’t repeat. If 20 years go by and no one from Afghanistan attacks our homeland, I bet you will still be saying the same thing as you do now. That is what I think of you.

  11. Can’t imagine hanging on to a plane taking off just to have freedom.We are so fortunate in this country.praying they will help these people.

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