New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman talks about E. Jean Carroll's ongoing battery and defamation trial against former President Donald Trump. #CNN #News
Maggie Haberman: Trump is personally bothered by the E. Jean Carroll case
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If I’m on a jury and a lawyer keeps repeating the same question I start to not trust the lawyer.
@Arceus Thomas Oh when Trump says he is god it must be true eh? š¤”
ā@Arceus Thomas So you admit that she is a victim.
@over easy wouldnāt it be something if men had to fend off rapists in the changing room, in a darkened parking lot, at school, in a club. Wouldnāt it be something if all u had to do to āask for itā was to exist in a space nearby a rapist.
@IYamWhatIYamWell said!
Knowing what I felt, and others who’ve been assaulted, we always are in shock after this happens and all handle it differently. Her response is one many of us have suffered. Her age, like mine, raises that f*credit up thought and questioning of ‘why didn’t I see this coming?’ ‘Did I do something to make this happen?’
The fact is that the older the generation, the more women were conditioned, emotionally and mentally, for it to have been their fault when all along it is weak men who used us to exert ‘power & control’ and to solidify for theirselves their ‘manliness’. REAL men don’t do that! Only the truly insignificant and weak do.
Funny how they never have a response when you completely trash their lies.
@LucYfYre Arch of TwiLight tell me you didnāt look it up without telling me you didnāt look it up.
@LA Here ya go š¤”
āHer counsel have had plenty of opportunities in both of the two related cases to move to compel Mr. Trump to submit a DNA sample,ā Judge Lewis Kaplan wrote. āHad they done so, they almost certainly would have gotten it. But Ms. Carrollās counsel never moved to compel Mr. Trump to submit a DNA sample. They obviously decided to go to trial without it.ā -Source/CNBC
@LA Is the quote from the judge sourced from CNBC good enough for ya? Or do you have one shred of actual evidence to support her lies?
I’m just curious. How did Tocapina know that she didn’t scream? Or is that a basic question that is asked of people who have been attacked. I thought maybe he’s using this strategy because his client may have said that she didn’t even scream, which may infer that the victim liked it or the victim is lying about the attack. And, as for the screaming, I’ve been attacked by grown men attempting to rape me and I never screamed either. I was blessed with being able to fight them off. Too many victims are not so able.
Good for you for fighting the creeps off. Hope you managed to hurt the cojones.
@krista9270Ā
I once kicked a drunken creep down a hill when I was 12 years old. He jumped from behind a tree at an outdoor concert at a school. Nobody helped me either.
š„ŗ I was just glad to get away.
I was raped about 30yrs ago, I would not have a clue about the date, I just remember running down dark streets, barefoot in the middle of the night I did not scream…I did not go to the police, I told my best friend and no-one else…..the trauma of being raped stays with me still today
Bless you, sister. You’re here now and that’s what matters. Stay strong ā¤ Your post alone is helping and educating others. All the loveš
Same here Kit. I am confident woman, I am strong and was physically fit when I was raped. I was a wildland firefighter at the time. I did not scream, I did not fight back, I could not move. I only told my boyfriend who then dumped me. Double trauma from men. He slut shamed me and I felt so devastated. I knew what happened to me was wrong, but it took me 15 years to call it what it was: RAPE. There are so many people who shame and discredit women, and everyone knows that if you do file a case, and if it goes to trail, you will be dragged through the muck like you are the one who committed the crime. I can’t believe some meatball head like Taco-Penis, has the balls in this day and age, after Me Too, to try to cast doubt on a woman’s credibility.
@D K such sad stories, from you and Kit and everyone. There’s no shame in reporting this stuff, and D K your boyfriend wasn’t a man, he was a weasel. I cannot believe it.
@D K Yours is a story too often told dear one. I understand. My cousin was a hotshot in Arizona. She was raped by one of her team in the middle of the night in her tent. She didn’t scream. She never told anyone for fear of reprisal and being ostracized and never being able to work on her field again.
Name one shred of evidence to support her lie? In the USA, evidence is required, not just “cuz I said so”.
When an entity (not a real Man) brags he can grab a woman by her pā¬$$y and they let you because your a Celebrity, is definitely not above reproach in a situation such as this, talk about āentitled attitudeā.
It’s called evidence and that is needed when you make an accusation as she did. The only one that should be sued for defamation is this lying harpy.
@LucYfYre Arch of TwiLight you are referring to the orange one, who is in love with Putin.
Try to look in Tacapina’s eyes… This dude is absolutely nuts.
Cookooo
Man, Taco-boy just sunk the case with any female jurors. What a scumbag.
Why? For asking a liar some questions?
When I hear the word sleazy, Tacopina immediately comes to mind.
@sun dial ^^That’s a Ruzzian troll.
@M R
bloody cheek..!!!!!..I’m NOT a Troll..
i’m a BOT..š¤..with a personality..š
@sun dial only hatred makes you say that. Itās so ridiculous. are you six years old?
@cpamvca
i am a loving person and currently a Professor Emeritus of Theoretical Physics at Stanford and a part time Neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins…š
I was once attacked while walking down the street in the middle of the day. A man came up to me and tried to reach underneath my dress. Four young black men were driving by when it happened and they pulled their car over, grabbed the man, yelled at him, and smacked him a few times. They made sure I was ok and then they got back in their car and left. I was in such shock. I never screamed. The police got the man the next day and put him in prison. He had a rap sheet many pages long. I donāt know what wouldāve happened if it hadnāt been for those 4 young men who rescued me that day. I wrote a letter to the paper, trying to find them to thank them. Those young men are my heroes. I was frozen with fear, and they rescued me. Any man that repeatedly asks you why you didnāt scream in that kind of situation, is nothing more than a predator šš»š
@SSanf My boss at the time was a black man. The reason I remember those 4 young men so well, is because it was on a very busy street and there were plenty of other people that couldāve stopped to help, but those 4 were the only ones that did. I was on my way to the office when it happened. Our office building was right across the street and several people saw the attack from the windows. They were able to identify the man that attacked me. After it was over, the only ones I could remember were the 4 that came to my rescue. I looked at the accounts of the men that are criticizing and they are trump sympathizers so that tracks. Just your basic, narcissistic misogynists. Cowards that hide behind a keyboard to attack women because they canāt talk to us, face-to-face.
@SSanf Thank you but I wouldnāt waste my time on them. I just remove their comments from my feed. I appreciate it though and Iām sorry that you went through something awful as well and Iām glad you were rescued. If these guys knew that my husband is Asian, they would probably flip out even more. š
@Legal Docs, Inc. poor trumper
It happens to men too. When I was a teenager I had 2 adult women squeeze a butt cheek without my permission. I was standing in line at a store and a middle aged woman squeezed me from behind. The other woman was a boss at work. She gave me my paycheck and said she would stick it in my back pocket and squeezed a cheek while doing it. They both looked good, so I liked it, but nonetheless it could have been considered sexual assault.
Disgusting question. The last thing I would do for a psychopath is scream…. its what they crave most, the actuation of your fear.
Oh sure. You wouldn’t call out for help in a high-end dept store that has employees, security, and customers just feet way? š¤”
My sister didn’t have time to scream when she was assaulted while jogging. Predator twice her size came up from behind and threw her to the ground. She was immediately fighting for her life. All her breath went to that. Neighbors ran out of their houses to rescue her. Took several of them, one of them armed with a baseball bat, to get the man off of her.
Tocapina is a sadistic oinker of an attorney.
Not one shred of evidence to support her ridiculous lie.
@LA Well? Where’s the DNA? Where’s the dress it is supposed to have come from?
Not being able to remember times and dates after an extremely traumatizing event is a very real thing! My birth mother was so traumatized when she was forced to hand me over at birth, that she wasnāt even sure what month I was bornā¦ when she posted on one of those adoption sites that tries to reunite people, the best she could come up with was, āsometime in the summer, or maybe fall, of ā¦.ā And, thatās after being pregnant for 9 months.
With something like this assault sheās describing I can totality see, most especially pre Me Too, to first question yourself, then try to process everything, probably spend some time blaming yourself and trying to think of what you couldāve done different. And when you can finally acknowledge what happened to you, you then ultimately realize (again, pre Me Tooā¦ but apparently we havenāt come that far, even with that) thereās very little you can do to hold them accountable. Thatās when the rage sets in.
You spend some time being angry, and afraid of not just trusting men, but yourself for not realizing that what you thought was playful banter in a department store, could lead to you being raped by a predator. You sit with the anger and fear until you get so sick of it, that you try to move on from it.
Itās 100% plausible for her to not remember the date. After all, she spent years trying to forget that awful day!!
Iām an adoptee of the baby scoop era. I have only secondhand accounts of my birth & relinquishment. The trauma was terrible. My mum later took her own life. I can imagine she lost track of time. She was so young.
Former leader of the senate, the late Bob Dole ( he was a lawyer ) , he said : before you break the law, make sure you have a good lawyer.
Bob Dole. Another dude that talked about himself in the third person.
If every rape victim was grilled in public by a slick lawyer there would never be such a thing as a rape conviction. Rape victims should be given the protection of the court, not thrown to the lions and humiliated on a public stand.
The court should be looking for the truth, not who can twist the story the best.
It is farcical to think that justice can be served in a courtroom while lawyers are paid to āwinā.
@LucYfYre Arch of TwiLight in regards to god and 2A – why don’t you direct that comment to whomever linked them in the first place. I’ll give you a hint, it the comment that first mentioned “god given right” in this thread – I don’t believe a link either!
@Fifi Woof Guess you didn’t understand.
@LucYfYre Arch of TwiLight and you’re now claiming to understand better? How so?
@Chilkat River weāre not talking about your favorite subject. Weāre talking about a woman who was raped. Personal carry is extremely dangerous. You could have your gun taken away as easily as you can shoot the wrong person.
@cpamvca I’m surrounded by predators. Most of time we respect each other. I’m in rural Alaska, humans are not a threat, I rarely see one of them.
Of course you remember what happened but not the date and time. For anyone who had an accident and ended up getting stiches on their head or arm, do they remember the date and time of the event? I can’t remember mine. Then do you conclude that my scars are a hoax?
Your scars would be some proof that *something* injured you but not what injured you. Name one shred of evidence to support her claim.
Rape victims still get accused of not being sufficiently careful not to get raped, and of not taking stronger action after getting raped.
This case is why 2A is so important. She could have, should have stopped the assault right there in the dressing room.
Well it probably never happen so don’t worry.
He’s only “bothered” because he is afraid he might actually be held accountable for once. His reality check is coming and its going to be beautiful. Hopefully some of the other women he has assaulted will feel empowered to follow in her steps.
Yeah, like you wouldn’t be p1ss3d off if someone was lying and claiming you did something horrific like this.
Can we get a show of hands from people who think he did it?
Better question: Can anyone name one shred of evidence to support her ridiculous story?
If Maga Haberman can reveal that, I can only wonder what info she’s holding back for her next book.
It seems like a strange system where the plaintiff can be cross examined for days apparently and the “defendant” doesn’t even have to appear in court? Why is he not being cross examined under oath? Instead the judge tolerates him slandering her on his pseudo Twitter account.