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    1. I just wonder if this the. Only one I donโ€™t live in Michigan I live in Vermont I would know what to do with I am not geek comes to electronics

  1. It’s crazy that the guy who bought it second is a Professional white hat and spent quite a bit of time at Def Con this year working on a election system trying to find flaws.

    He’s actually one of the good guys, I’m sure when he made the call he had purchased it on Ebay a LOT of bells went off ๐Ÿคฃ

    1. Harri Hursti is a Finnish programmer who specializes in election integrity. Yes, it took a Finnish man in Connecticut buying on eBay to alert election officials in Michigan that a voting machine was stolen!

    2. @ChickenMcThiccken they pretty much answered those questions in the video. Itโ€™s possible the Goodwill didnโ€™t even know it was a voting machine and the guy who bought it didnโ€™t know it was a voting machine either.

    3. @SeanPat1001 actually the guy buying it did know , at first he thought it was a computer when he saw it on the Goodwill site but then on the corner he saw it said Dominion voting .

    4. @ChickenMcThiccken I work in a county elections department and the story from the guy who bought it from Goodwill sounds very plausible. To most people, Dominion ICX machines just look like a big computer monitor. There’s nothing people can do with them unless they have a special access card and a password, though.

    5. @shari .. yup, had that first guy contacted authorities, he might’ve gotten a Reward for alerting them of the Stolen machine. Those can not be sold in the Open Marketplace…they have to be destroyed or wiped clean before disposal, is my understanding ๐Ÿค”

      Hell, Dominion might’ve probably given him a reward

  2. Should be easy enough to trace it back to a county by serial number. I’d be staggered if they don’t have an asset register.

  3. That’s bad for it to go missing/stolen without anyone’s knowledge. I bet one of clerks didn’t do their job, and is likely the culprit. This warrants an FBI investigation.

    1. @Stu Bonner Hopefully they can get them Identified and they can answer for their crimes. Have a nice weekend man. Cheers

  4. That machine has a serial number, a way to trace it to Whomever was supposed to be securing it. Find Him/her and jail him/her.

    1. yeah my thinking too. Somebody is responsible for the custody of that machine, that somebody needs to be fired ASAP & maybe jailed.

    2. It is probably taken from some warehouse, where they store/keep these machines. Anyone that can open the door, has access to those machines. Unless there is a security system/CCTV installed, there is no way of finding out.

  5. As someone who has worked directly with voting machines in my local county elections department, responsible for setting up and preparing them for an election I can tell you that there are numerous safeguards to each machine. Serial # of each machine, matched with the serial # for each data cartridge, matched with the person handling said machine to the video recorded of the transaction – all of this is stored in more than 1 place. The serial # CAN be matched to the corresponding County to which it belongs.

  6. Last time I voted, they let me take the machine I used home.
    In Canada we use paper and a pencil. You got to keep the pencil, COVID precautions.
    Take out the extra steps where all the shady stuff happens.

    1. Last year’s “Black Hat” conference in Vegas had ~12 of them purchased from Dominion, I’ll wait till they check the serial numbers and know who bought it. (I know at least 3 of those are out of commission, 3 teams failed by bricking theirs – not sure if any of the other 9 were in salable condition or not after the conference)

  7. Did anyone ever say anything about it missing
    Track it and you might find out more
    Someone stole it and should be held accountable

  8. Well, some local clerk’s life is about to get really interesting… Luckily, an apparently clueless guy, then a good guy got it… Dang folks.

    1. “From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Matthew 4:17

      “Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.” Matthew 5:38-39

    2. If he was a good guy he would have got it to someone who could let us know for sure whether something nefarious on a large scale occured

    1. “From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Matthew 4:17

      “Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.” Matthew 5:38-39

    2. Brilliant! May I add, โ€˜So sir, would you go to the library then for documents containing highly sensitive American Nuclear Weapons system data,โ€™. It probably is registered as on the non fiction shelves , easy to find!

  9. I donโ€™t imagine that Goodwill has security cameras that could be used to identify the donor. I suggest the local or state elections committee changes their procedures to protect & secure ALL machines at ALL times so this incident is NEVER repeated. This is NOT a good look on the State of Michigan.

    1. No worries they can’t do anything apart from destroy the machine the person who did this will be found the machines has serial numbers and a log of who was around them.

    2. @phriedokra61 My guess is the sheriff, if it is that sheriff, knows which have CCTV and which don’t, and picked where to drop off with that in mind.

    3. Why does it look bad for Michigan? Did you watch the video? They aren’t responsible for the security of the machines between elections, the counties are, as it is in most if not all states.

  10. I still don’t understand how delegating national elections to the local level is still a thing in the US. How is the entire process not conducted and overseen by a federal agency is mind-boggling.

    1. @jb888888888I wasn’t sure if I read it right, so I hope they didn’t think i was attacking them. Your state is 1 of 30, I believe that has this. The other 20 don’t. So, 40% of the states don’t give this right to the people.

    2. 100% agree. It is unbelievable that States get to decide which Americans can vote in National/Presidential elections. Every American, irrespective of where they happen to live, should be guaranteed exactly the same right to vote for their President and national representatives as any other American. States should only be able to make rules about state-level elections, not elections at the Federal level.

    3. @David Warren Arizona has a two tiered system. To vote a “full” ballot you have to submit documentation proving you’re a US Citizen. If you declare you’re a citizen but don’t demonstrate it you only get to vote for President, Senator and US Rep.

  11. Seller: “As far as I was aware, it was a completely legal sale on my end.”
    Also seller: “I wasn’t even aware that they were supposed to be sold, let alone donated to Goodwill”

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