‘Outrageous’: Historian On Trump’s Threat To Veto Defense Bill Over Confederate-Named Bases | MSNBC

‘Outrageous’: Historian On Trump’s Threat To Veto Defense Bill Over Confederate-Named Bases | MSNBC 1


Ahead of a Fourth of July holiday unlike any other, presidential historian Michael Beschloss joins Andrea Mitchell to discuss the effect of the pandemic on the American public and President Trump's leadership, and the president’s threat to veto the national defense spending bill over an amendment to rename military bases honoring Confederates. Aired on 07/03/2020.
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‘Outrageous’: Historian On Trump’s Threat To Veto Defense Bill Over Confederate-Named Bases | MSNBC

101 Comments on "‘Outrageous’: Historian On Trump’s Threat To Veto Defense Bill Over Confederate-Named Bases | MSNBC"

  1. Makes sense the traitor in the WH supports Confederate traitors.

    • Trump is start the 2nd civil war, if he doesn’t win, He Will 100% start a civil 2ar and he will be backed by Republicans, Bill Barr’s weaponized DOJ, Fox News and his brainwashed followers. If you doubt this, you dont understand the grave situation we are in….

    • Craig Staples | July 3, 2020 at 5:48 PM | Reply

      @omi god Its not just my opinion… Look around… Keep eyes open wide… WE THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN…. TRUMP 2020

    • Craig Staples | July 3, 2020 at 6:00 PM | Reply

      @Jock Young Vote all you want… your kind🤮 has expiration date… A freakun aid will get you

    • What proof do you have that Trump is a traitor?..the media..ever hear of Operation Mockingbird?

    • Alex Hamilton | July 3, 2020 at 7:49 PM | Reply

      keep trying, At some point you might get one right LOL

  2. Walter Godsoe | July 3, 2020 at 3:37 PM | Reply

    As the Trump Dump approaches celebrations start to breakout, we take a deep breath and get to work rebuilding America in Our Image.

  3. President of the Virgin Islands | July 3, 2020 at 3:38 PM | Reply

    Ok Trumputin trolls now try to tell us Trump is not a racist, there is no possible argument in his defense any longer.

    • Understand, those that voted for 45 were racist themselves .Like a little white lie,it’s still a lie and to many white AMERICANS think that because they don’t use the N word they aren’t racist.

    • He not a racist it’s you that racist

    • Guillermo Gutierrez-Santana II | July 3, 2020 at 8:30 PM | Reply

      Isaiah Kern That doesn’t make sense, I was arguing with the Russian troll guy, idk what your problem is with me but it seems like you don’t understand how YouTube notifications work.

    • Guillermo Gutierrez-Santana II | July 3, 2020 at 8:32 PM | Reply

      Too Bad that’s the “I know you are, but what I am I” argument. No wonder Trump says he loves the uneducated.

    • Robert Glass | July 3, 2020 at 8:50 PM | Reply

      @Isaiah Kern,

      Yes, I know… Glad you enjoyed my little play on words.

  4. Max Africanus | July 3, 2020 at 3:39 PM | Reply

    Life today is like being in a really BAD sci-fi movie.

    • Ahmad Abdullah | July 3, 2020 at 8:15 PM | Reply

      Its much worse!!!!

    • Edward Miessner | July 3, 2020 at 8:56 PM | Reply

      Or in a really bad alternate history written by Harry Turtledove

    • @bmon40 BM, if that is your real name, throw the hate at the enemy who has killed 128,648 Americans and rewarded Putin for actually paying out $ for dead American soldiers. WH – WE WANT AN ANSWER!!!

    • This Toxic Trump administration is like living the nightmare of an alternative bad ending to Stephen King’s _’The Dead Zone!’_

    • Used to be, the moon revolved around Earth. With this President, we’ve gone into lunacy orbit.

  5. Traitor Trump fighting for the confederacy, but not for American soldiers in Afghanistan nor for Americans here at home.

    • George Miller | July 3, 2020 at 10:35 PM | Reply

      @Josephus S tRUMP’s response to the Russian bounties on U.S. soldiers show him unfit for the office. In Helsenki he believe a fomer KGB agent over the FBI and CIA. Putin is a trained liar, tRUMP is a compulsive liar ( over 20,000 lies) . I will say you are a dedicated sycophant supporter of that draft dodger ( bone spurs).

    • @George Miller I just don’t see boogiemen around every corner like you

    • George Miller | July 3, 2020 at 10:38 PM | Reply

      @Adam GS because of your skin color, you have been living boogie man free, good for you.

    • @Adam GS lol..one can only hope..

    • @George Miller I believe people like you want there to be racism. You want to believe the world is racist. Gives you an excuse for your personal failure.

  6. Walter Godsoe | July 3, 2020 at 3:41 PM | Reply

    President Trump responds “Oink, oink and oink…”

    • Are you in fifth grade little boy? Go out and play it’s summertime TRUMP 2020!

    • Mad Max 2.0 | July 3, 2020 at 5:42 PM | Reply

      He isn’t a pig he’s a monkey

    • Walter Godsoe | July 3, 2020 at 5:45 PM | Reply

      @hhhh9579 Oink oink oink

    • Guillermo Gutierrez-Santana II | July 3, 2020 at 5:49 PM | Reply

      hhhh9579 Oink Oink Oink

    • Thyalwaysseek | July 3, 2020 at 10:21 PM | Reply

      It’s interesting how in 8 years of a black man being in office not once were any of these issues raised to him by the black community. Before anybody accuses me of being a Trump supporter, I’m not, I am also not a hypocrite, seems to me there has been failures on both sides of the party line.

  7. *So – Trump is President of the Confederacy now, is that it?*

  8. Donna McDonald | July 3, 2020 at 3:48 PM | Reply

    Thirty years ago Trump and his circus of clown would be in prison facing dead now.

  9. Clemons Kunkel | July 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM | Reply

    Fake president baby bone Spur is running Scared Vladimir Putin is a killer and he can’t file bankruptcy on Putin

    • Alex Hamilton | July 3, 2020 at 7:52 PM | Reply

      Clemons Kunkel
      you comment like a 3 year old having a tantrum LOL

    • what do you think Putin has done that we haven’t?

    • Adedamola Osinusi Keep on dreamin’.

    • @Lyn Wwhat if I told you I can PROVE they are lying about the number of Covid cases..or that I can PROVE that Joe Biden is corrupt..and I can..why would they lie about these things..Or do you think I am dreaming about that..You wouldn’t believe me would you..then if you saw these videos would you finally come to the realization that we are being played..Where is their proof of Trump’s guilt I see no witnesses I see no evidence ..and those witness I want them under oath..not like the Trump Russian Collusion when they all said they had proof and then once under oath ..they ALL admitted they had nothing..What if I told you that the donations to BLM is going to white democrats..lol..it’s true..I’m not a dreamer I’m a realist and can back up all I say..bet you don’t ask for those videos I possess..who’s dreaming now..

    • Danny Baldwin | July 3, 2020 at 10:19 PM | Reply

      President Trump Putin Owns ” You ” Pay Attention ” America ” 🤔🤫🇺🇸

  10. Mike Stanton | July 3, 2020 at 3:52 PM | Reply

    Having confederate statues is like putting up a statue for ; Stalin, Putin, KIm Jong Un, Osama Bin Laden, or the 9/11 highjackers. They all fought against us too.

    • @Rod so it won’t bother you in the least when they come down.

    • Ian Dalziel | July 3, 2020 at 7:29 PM | Reply

      @Rod – Awwwww. Does little Roddy get his jollies abusing strangers – Maybe get an adult to help with your next hectoring attempt – or better yet get a life and be useful somehow, at the moment you re just a carbon sink.

    • Mary Jean Jones | July 3, 2020 at 9:31 PM | Reply

      @Whicker Boy – Why were they ever put up to being with? The whole thing is a contradiction to the country’s history. You have been glorifying men who failed, who lost the war, who embellished slavery and were against everything the country was fighting for. Go figure!!

    • Whicker Boy | July 3, 2020 at 9:57 PM | Reply

      @Mary Jean Jones Why were streets named after Martin Luther King, WHY???
      Get rid of EVERY MLK STREET, building, and statue CAUSE HE WAS A PHILANDERING ADULTERER!!!!!

    • Mary Jean Jones | July 3, 2020 at 10:13 PM | Reply

      @Whicker Boy – Yes and JFK had a dozen girlfriends while married to Jackie and while in the White House yet the country seems to idolize him. A number of US presidents had affairs and mistresses. Including Franklin Roosevelt. We could talk about this all night.

  11. nigel perring | July 3, 2020 at 3:52 PM | Reply

    He thinks and reacts at ‘gutter’ level.

    • Miguel WOLF Rivera | July 3, 2020 at 4:20 PM | Reply


    • He reacts at ‘gutter’ level. He doesn’t think. FTFY

  12. tRumpstinky is the best Putin’s Agent

  13. LaToya Taylor | July 3, 2020 at 4:00 PM | Reply

    This immature nut is just throwing out a series of tantrums

  14. a traitor trying to protect other traitor’s statues

  15. Frank Winkhorst | July 3, 2020 at 4:05 PM | Reply

    Putin really got his money’s worth from Bunker Boy.

    • @A.I where is the implications that Putin directly paid Trump anything? The point that you’re too stupid to see is that Putin got value out of his campaign to support an anti-establishment candidate. It wasn’t necessarily about Trump since Russian bots supported Bernie in the 2020 primary.

    • Alex Hamilton | July 3, 2020 at 7:48 PM | Reply

      Frank Winkhorst
      you really think Putin has bought Biden?

    • Jim Battersbee | July 3, 2020 at 8:24 PM | Reply

      Didn’t cost Putin a dollar, Americans did it to themselves, the greatest failure of a nation in history. Thanks though for building a wall to keep Mexico safe, they appreciate it.

    • @tthreat23 Black lives matter may have unwittingly supported Bernie and Biden..and as far as being anti establishment if you’re talking about the government prior to Trump..that establishment has been rogue for quite some time especially under the Manchurian candidate Obammy who wasn’t even a natural born citizen..I wonder how he even made it to candidacy with his fake birth certificate and fake family..so much for intel ..eh

    • @Jim Battersbee Mexico by no means is safe..and the only failure of this nation was the reaction we had to take from the psy op known as Covid 19..But I’m sure the democrats appreciate all those donations coming from BLM..

  16. machintelligence | July 3, 2020 at 4:10 PM | Reply

    Trump DOES have a position on systemic racism: he is in favor of it.

    • It’s not so much that he’s in favor of racism. It just that he doesn’t oppose it. It does not concern him.

    • GAY LIVES MATTER !!! | July 3, 2020 at 5:08 PM | Reply

      @ruth depew he’s in favor of it

    • Mad Max 2.0 | July 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM | Reply

      @No Name he didn’t handle the virus correctly protesters would stop if Trump would actually work with them and he has lied to the U.S in our face I can list some examples if you don’t believe me

    • Thyalwaysseek | July 3, 2020 at 10:22 PM | Reply

      So why didn’t Obama ever do anything about this “systemic racism”? He had 8 years to make a difference for his people and what did he do?

    • GAY LIVES MATTER !!! | July 3, 2020 at 10:28 PM | Reply

      @Thyalwaysseek after the first two years he couldn’t do anything because the Republicans had full control of House and Senate.
      Do you ever pay attention to anything except what you find in Hannity’s toilet?

  17. Fabled Creature | July 3, 2020 at 4:12 PM | Reply

    You left out one possibility: he’s spreading the virus on purpose.
    When you plug that into the equation, it all makes sense. How long are we going to wonder if Trump is anti American? Even a clock is right twice a day. But Trump continues to do the wrong thing and divide us, every time.

    • Ian Dalziel | July 3, 2020 at 6:11 PM | Reply

      Sure has cut back his ‘pre-existing conditions’ payment liabilities on any ‘pulic health care systems’ he might come up with – but he has admitted that those are ‘More complicated than anyone knew’ – he always talks about himself in the third person…

    • Who keeps bringing up race and making it everyone else’s problem? It isn’t Trump. You’re so blind.

  18. timber_beast | July 3, 2020 at 4:18 PM | Reply

    Why are republicans so quiet with such treason on display?

    • Republicans are traitors too.

    • Republicans: “Democracy is great…just so long as we can subvert it to gain power and maintain our minority fascist rule!”

    • Republicans got the disease of false prophet hero-worship! That’s ’cause not only are they unable to admit Toxic Trump is a sicko, they can’t even admit any mistake he makes, or any wrong he does! In the Republican cult Trumpette moron’s bubble-world, Trump MUST _always_ remain pristinely “perfect.” Toxic Trump really is a sicko, can’t help himself, but what about all of you Americans engaging in WILLFUL ignorance, making yourselves sickos? You got the cure…it’s your brain! *_Use it!_*

    • GOP has gone rogue, doesn’t want to play by the rules in America, anymore. Republicans are all about constant deceit and hypocrisy, rigging elections, and rampant crony corruption.
      One would hope that his cabinet or the Republican Senate would have done the right thing and removed him. Or, that the Republican SCOTUS would have defended our Constitution, instead of partisan power grabs. In fact, it’s more than hope–those are the minimal basic expectation of our public officials. They failed themselves, and they failed our nation horribly. Because they are weak, and ignorant, and corrupt.

      Thus, we are forced to suffer another six months of a failed Presidency, a failed Senate, and a failed SCOTUS. While confident Trump would be defeated before the pandemic and ensuing economic collapse, his loss has since become a virtual certainty. So, that isn’t really about hope, either.

      What does give hope is that the majority of Americans reject Trump. There is hope that the end of Trump will mark the beginning of the end for the Republican cult. There is hope that out of this darkness will come the realization progress is vital to our future, and that reactionary conservatism stagnates and kills.

      In short, the GOP has become proto-fascist, bound by the ignorant Republican cult they created, and the fear, bigotry and hate they cultivated and nourished for decades. Fortunately, the cult is not the majority, so there is hope yet for America!

      “The problem at the heart of all this is a Republican cult built up over decades by plutocrats, the GOP, and right-wing media. Those Americans elected this pitiful, puerile President, and have continued to support him no matter what travesty he commits! The creators of the Republican cult have always been weak men, and now find themselves harnessed by those they sought to enslave, subject to the fickle whims of a moronic madman and the mob whose ignorance they relentlessly nourished and cultivated.”

      Conservatism as always been the endless, futile quest to justify greed, but the coin of the realm in GOP land is fear; it’s what they peddle, it’s what they traffic in, it’s what they carry in their pocket at all times. Then, they turn that fear to hate. And that hate is the poison killing them, America, and all of us. It’s the poison to which the Republican cult has become addicted.

      Republican cultism is the disease, Toxic Trump is merely the most visible symptom and but one carrier of that disease. It existed before Trump, and it will continue when Trump is gone–unless or until the problem is adequately addressed. COVID-19 is also a disease; but a virus is blameless, unlike those who engage in willful ignorance. America would have confronted and easily conquered COVID-19 disease, had America not already been diseased for so long with Republican tribalistic partisan cultism. Racism, xenophobia, homophobia, misogyny and bigotry were central to the formation of the Republican cult, and remain its lifeblood.

      The only thing been stopping the GOP cult from turning America fascist has been the long-held universal repulsion and rejection of Toxic Trump’s hero, Adolf Hitler, by Americans. Fortunately, the majority of Americans still remember that painful historical lesson many Republicans choose to ignore. There is hope that good will once again triumph over evil; love prevail over hate; common sense outweigh blind faith, mindless tribalism, and silly superstitions.

    • Reality Check | July 3, 2020 at 10:50 PM | Reply

      Not every one has a mixed history, some people evolve, learned from their mistakes, others have no redeeming qualities. Amazing Grace was written by a repentant slave trader.

  19. We need a real president in the white house, not a racist tv show personality.

    • Tired of all the chaos in our cities run by Democrats and the press endorsing it. Tired of Trump getting blamed for a virus, and tired of a two year federal investigation that found nothing.
      🇺🇸 Patriotic Democrats for Trump 🇺🇸

    • mart coesmans | July 3, 2020 at 5:07 PM | Reply


    • Well don’t vote for Joe Biden then because he referred to little black children as roaches…smh democrats are such scum

    • @No Name Found nothing? Really? Blinkered fool read some literature and stop believing Fox News. Yours is the voice of ignorance.

  20. Emsley Wyatt | July 3, 2020 at 4:38 PM | Reply

    One thing is sure: We won’t be having this debate a hundred years from now about statues of trump.

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