95 Comments on "Why Pennsylvania court ruling is a win for Democrats"

  1. Its not only for democrates man… its a win for democracy.

    • @Sparky Sparky member of corrupt administration says it’s not corrupt lol

    • @Sparky Sparky Your naivete is amusing. Addicts run half the world. You thinking that someone having done cocaine stops them from being in charge of things is laughable. Literally tons of ceos and people in charge of things have been on coke, meth, and heroin.

      Everyone knew Obama had done coke when they put him in charge of the US. Get a clue.

    • @Sparky Sparky just remember, princess, come January your man will have a nice orange suit to match his face, then we can all carry on where the Moeller report stopped. HE’S GOING DOWN

    • Jesus was a social activist | October 20, 2020 at 8:48 PM | Reply

      @Sparky Sparky we are in a global pandemic,.which needs a federal governments to take immediate, orchestrated & funded nationwide response,doing it by state is incoherent,,&expecting states to compete with each other fof severely limited supplies is abhorrent.it is a deriliction of goverment,not individual states. if the resources needed were already in place,in a functioning federal healthcare system,like in Germany,Uk,(although uk nhs has been underfunded to the point of collapse, as a policy of conscutive right wing gov).. this unfolding nightmare could hav been avoided.

    • @Jennifer Quinn explain to me why zero experience ivanka trump and her husband serve as senior white house advisor and engage in business, even profiting on policy proposals that he himself pushed for within the administration.

  2. Vote in person if you can. But if you can’t, vote as early as possible. It takes time to count all the ballots. We can’t afford to have mistakes happen.

  3. Don’t count on any of this. Send the message so there is no doubt. Tell that idiot, “”YOU’RE FIRED”

    • @Bird Dog
      🎴 Incredible biden family corruption over the years. Could implicate even Obama now.

      https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/two-huge-new-developments-emerge-hunter-biden-laptop-saga

    • @Sparky Sparky well first off that’s an opinion piece. It says so right there in the front. That’s already biased. 2nd that’s a questionable “source” to begin with because it’s an option piece. So it’s not credible “proof” of anything.

      I’ll sell you a MAGA shovel for that hole you’re digging there.

    • @Sparky Sparky your English is very good but your approach is straight out of the Russian playbook

    • Breaking News AP: Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and Federal Bureau of Investigation ( FBI) have confirmed today that Hunter Biden’s Laptop is his and not part of a Russian Intelligence Disinformation operation. Biden Campaign has not deny the authenticity of the Hunter Biden Emails. FBI has confirmed they are in possession of Hunter Biden’s Laptop. *****************

    • Could Pennsylvania Republicans bypass the popular vote for president and pick the winner?

      By ANGELA COULOUMBIS AND CYNTHIA FERNANDEZ

      SPOTLIGHT PA

      SEP 26, 2020 AT 6:05 AM

      

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      HARRISBURG — Spotlight PA is an independent, nonpartisan newsroom powered by The Philadelphia Inquirer in partnership with PennLive/The Patriot-News, TribLIVE/Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, and WITF Public Media. Sign up for our free weekly newsletter.

      It is the nightmare scenario Pennsylvania election officials have fretted over for months: a knock-down, drag-out fight over which presidential candidate will win the state and snag its coveted electoral votes.

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      Now, the head of the Republican Party of Pennsylvania has fueled fears of chaos after Election Day, raising the specter that his party could break with tradition and allow the GOP-controlled Legislature to choose a slate of presidential electors to cast the state’s votes for Donald Trump — even if the president doesn’t win the popular vote.

      In comments to The Atlantic made public this week, state Republican Chairman Lawrence Tabas suggested that he had spoken with Trump campaign officials about the possibility of bypassing the results of the popular vote, should there be uncertainty or disputes over the validity of ballots cast. The U.S. Constitution, Tabas said, allows state legislatures to choose presidential electors.

      “I’ve mentioned it to them, and I hope they’re thinking about it too,” Tabas told the magazine, referencing the Trump campaign. “I just don’t think this is the right time for me to be discussing those strategies and approaches, but [direct appointment of electors] is one of the options.”

      His remarks, coupled with those of state Senate Majority Leader Jake Corman, R-Centre, have placed the state’s political world on alert for a constitutional showdown, with Democrats claiming it would amount to stealing the election.

      Senate Minority Leader Jay Costa, D-Allegheny, called it “an affront to all voters and our democracy as a whole.”

      “Voters must determine our next president,” Costa said, “not a few Trump loyalists handpicked by Republican legislative leaders.”

      Tabas did not respond to multiple requests for an interview. In a statement, state GOP officials said Tabas’ comments were taken out of context to spin a “pre-emptive farce that projects conspiracy, delay, and even violence onto Republicans.”

      Corman said in a series of tweets Thursday that his comments to The Atlantic — suggesting that the Legislature has the power to step in and appoint electors if there isn’t a clean count of the popular vote — were “hypotheticals” and “pure conjecture.”

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      “I have had zero contact with the Trump campaign or others about changing Pennsylvania’s long-standing tradition of appointing electors consistent with the popular vote,” he said. “The General Assembly is obligated to follow the law and the law is the Election Code, which clearly defines how electors are chosen and does not involve the Legislature.”

      A spokesperson for state House Republican leaders said there have been no discussions about the Legislature taking over the process of nominating electors.

      “We have had no discussions about departing from the practice of appointing electors consistent with the popular vote,” said Jason Gottesman, spokesperson for House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, R-Centre.

      The Atlantic, quoting sources in the Republican Party at both the state and national levels, said the Trump campaign has been making contingency plans to claim widespread fraud during the election, giving it the opportunity to contest results in the days and weeks after Nov. 3.

      In the face of such chaos, Republican-controlled legislatures in swing states like Pennsylvania could step in to choose electors who would be loyal to the president.

      In most states, electors are nominated by political parties. They are critical players: When voters cast their ballot for president on Election Day, they are actually voting for that candidate’s slate of electors. Those electors then get together a few weeks after the election to formally cast their ballots for the candidate they represent.

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      Pennsylvania law dictates that each political party’s presidential candidate gets to pick his or her own electors. It’s a “winner-take-all” state, with 20 Electoral College votes.

      Trump could “pollute what we are hearing about the election and try to convince people that he hasn’t lost when in fact he has,” said Dan Baer, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

      And if the validity of ballots cast on Nov. 3 is called into question, the Pennsylvania Legislature could decide to offer its own slate of electors by invoking Article II of the U.S. Constitution. That section grants state legislatures the right to designate the manner in which electors are selected.

      In the 1876 presidential election, three states sent two competing slates of electors to Congress. That precipitated a constitutional crisis, Baer said, “because there was no way to deal with it.”

      The Republican Party ultimately won the Electoral College by one vote.

      “I don’t think that’s likely but we’re in a moment where if we don’t think through what might happen — part of being responsible is trying to think through the scenarios that could happen even if they aren’t likely,” Baer said.

      Exactly how Republicans in Pennsylvania would put forth their own slate of electors is unclear. Members of the party said they have not discussed the process.

      Rep. Kevin Boyle, D-Philadelphia, minority chair of the House State Government Committee, said the GOP, in theory, could pass a resolution that doesn’t require Gov. Tom Wolf’s approval. That’s what lawmakers in Florida considered doing in 2000 before the U.S. Supreme Court settled the contested presidential race.

      “If they are trying to circumvent the governor, that’s the form of legislative direction they would go on,” Boyle said.

      Lyndsay Kensinger, spokesperson for Wolf, said Thursday, “Any scheme to undermine the public’s confidence in the election process for political gain is an affront to the core values of our nation’s democracy.”

      Wolf and Republican leaders are in the midst of a contentious fight over how to best change the state’s election laws to allow for a quicker and less cumbersome vote count in a critical election year.

      The state Supreme Court earlier this month handed Wolf a victory when it extended the deadline for mail-in ballots to be returned, allowed voters to submit their ballots through satellite drop boxes, and restricted the residency requirements of poll watchers.

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      Republicans had asked the court to issue a stay, but that request was denied Thursday. GOP leaders say they plan to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, while a similar federal case brought by the Trump campaign is still pending.

      Left unresolved is a change counties say is critical to ensuring votes are quickly tallied: allowing election boards to begin processing mail-in and absentee ballots before 7 a.m. on Election Day.

      “We all want a timely and accurate count,” said Adam Bonin, a Democratic election lawyer in Philadelphia. He said such a change is the best way to achieve that goal.

      “Otherwise, Republicans are creating the very crisis that would potentially enable them … to steal Pennsylvania’s electoral votes,” he said.

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  4. southpaw picker | October 20, 2020 at 9:23 AM | Reply

    For gods sake people ignore this and VOTE!!! These polls won’t mean a damn thing unless your vote is counted

  5. The SC rules that votes should all be counted. Wow, America might become a democracy some day.

  6. I find it sad that the right to have legally cast ballots COUNTED needed to be taken to court.

    • @jessi again You must not read my comments. I said BOTH SIDES will cheat. There are just as many democrats cheating, probably more. Google ballots. There is alot of other news out there. No, I’m not talking about fox. Both sides Jessi. Google it. Remember, you guys wanted this. You can go to walmart and riot, walk to the liquor store, but you’re afraid to vote in person. Makes no sense. It’s already making things worse. I can feel your hate towards me. What is freedom of speech only for democrats? If you libs had your way you wouldn’t let any republicans do anything. You’d have us in concentration camps for believing in God or being pro life. Lord forbid we have the right to own firearms to defend ourselves and our families. Libs hate anyone who gets in the way of their agenda.

    • #MeToobin: CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin, Legal Analyst and Chief Bidentard was suspended for Allegedly Masturbating On Zoom Call. Investigation underway.

      Journalists and political pundits have taken to social media to dunk on Jeffrey Toobin, a New Yorker writer and CNN chief legal analyst, after he was suspended for allegedly masturbating during a Zoom call with colleagues last week.

      Two people who were on the call told VICE separately that the call was an election ( or was it an erection stimulation) simulation featuring many of the New Yorker’s biggest stars: Jane Mayer was playing establishment Republicans; Evan Osnos was Joe Biden, Jelani Cobb was establishment Democrats, Masha Gessen played Donald Trump, Andrew Marantz was the far right, Sue Halpern was left wing democrats, Dexter Filkins was the military, and Jeffrey Toobin playing the courts. There were also a handful of other producers on the call from the New Yorker and WNYC.

      Both people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to speak freely, noted that it was unclear how much each person saw, but both said that they saw Toobin jerking off.***********************

    • Breaking News AP: Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and Federal Bureau of Investigation ( FBI) have confirmed today that Hunter Biden’s Laptop is his and not part of a Russian Intelligence Disinformation operation. Biden Campaign has not deny the authenticity of the Hunter Biden Emails. FBI has confirmed they are in possession of Hunter Biden’s Laptop. *****************

    • @Winston Shore What! It wasn’t Russia?

  7. william Kimmel | October 20, 2020 at 9:43 AM | Reply

    DON’T LISTEN TO POLLS

    VOTE BLUE
    TOO BIG TO RIG and
    TOO REAL TO STEAL
    … Glenn Kirschner
    Kim

  8. All votes must be counted. How is that even an issue? Only one party is against that concept.

    • @David O Donohoe In previous years, the standard was they had to be postmarked by election day, which usually means put in a mailbox one day earlier.

    • Breaking News AP: Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and Federal Bureau of Investigation ( FBI) have confirmed today that Hunter Biden’s Laptop is his and not part of a Russian Intelligence Disinformation operation. Biden Campaign has not deny the authenticity of the Hunter Biden Emails. FBI has confirmed they are in possession of Hunter Biden’s Laptop. *****************

    • @Winston Shore Yeah, No. The person who wrote the original article wouldn’t even put his name on it. They stuck a female journalists name on it without telling her. The owner of the computer shop said he copied the hard drive and he didn’t see anything on it like child porn and illegal activity. The only people who actually said anything like you are are Trumps minions like the unqualified talking head at DNI And those who are eyeball deep in Russian Intelligence operative propaganda. Smells exactly like Hillary’s emails that were doctored by the GRU. You must still believe in the Easter Bunny.

    • @An Ly You must be a U.S. citizen to vote in federal, state, or local elections.

    • @An Ly Silence? Thought as much. Disgusting that a woman goes for the supreme court and democrats ask her if shes a RAPIST. Thats reasonable.

  9. Martin Schabenbeck | October 20, 2020 at 9:47 AM | Reply

    I’d rather call it a win for democracy.

    • @mcostagirl123 Live TV
      Median income hit record high in 2019 before the pandemic, Census says
      By Tami Luhby, CNN
      Updated 3:17 PM EDT, Tue September 15, 2020

      Are those your “experts” who said my fact was “alternative?” Hahahaha check out CNN saying the fact I just told you. Enjoy! Fox News, I mean CNN, says hi 👋

    • @Greg Peterson I won’t bother trying to persuade a Trump supporter. If you were smart you wouldn’t be one after all. I’ll just add that Fox News was recently sued for Tucker Carlson’s misinformation about Covid and their legal defense was that he’s an entertainer expressing his opinions and shouldn’t be taken as factual lmao. In other words he’s not expected to tell the truth, let that sink in if you can.

    • @Greg Peterson funny how you’re not denying it but you’re also quoting them lol.

    • @mcostagirl123 I’m waiting for you to tell me I’m right since I posted a cnn headline confirming the point you said was a “Fox News” “alternative fact.” I’m done with this conversation since you can’t even admit what is right in front of you. Makes discussions useless. Go read more CNN articles about incomes last year at RECORD HIGHS and keep telling yourself average people didn’t earn more under trump 😂

    • @mcostagirl123 I’m also noticing you didn’t deny what I first said about you spewing cnn talking points. I followed it up with facts, not rhetoric, which you have yet to do, showing that what you called alternative facts was in fact a cnn headline 😂 you’re on fire 🔥

  10. #CNN Remember 2016 we don’t know stop acting like we do. It makes people get complacent .

  11. Iamtiredof 2020 | October 20, 2020 at 10:31 AM | Reply

    Why in the world would somebody wait until the last day to mail off their ballot? Come on humans!!

  12. Go Biden

  13. I believe in you Pennsylvania. Home of the mighty Steelers! Bring democracy home for America!

    • @Jed Opportuneson good for you baby killer

    • Swamp rats doing all they can too have Joe Blow win

    • @Jed Opportuneson, That’s cute and all, and I’m sure that Trump has lost many white class working Voters who traditionally may vote Republican. However, Trump has picked up many minority groups such as African-American males! I happen to be one, and I will be voting in person on November 3 in Philadelphia, And it will be for Trump! Believe me when I say, Trump is going to do very well with African-American voters, much better than his previous predecessors. Many other black individuals that I talk to; unless they drink the Kool-Aid of the main stream media, and really can’t think for themselves, or articulate their views and ideology in a succinct manner, they’re either not voting, or not voting for Joe Biden! Let that sink in! A lot of black voters, especially males, have realized that the Democratic Party only cares about us, only every four years. I can tell you more about this, but I just rather have you see on November 3!

    • Also, I did not vote in 2016, and I traditionally would vote for the Democratic nominee. So, I am one of those voters that the main stream media keeps talking about, that didn’t come out and vote in 2016! However, I will be voting this time around, and because of the negative press, and the obvious disdain for Donald Trump, I have been turned off from the Democratic Party; and doubt I will go back to voting for them in the near future. So yes, Donald Trump is turning off people that may have traditionally been Republicans in the past, but he has gained just as many that would have not traditionally voted Republican in the past. That is all!

    • Jed Opportuneson | October 20, 2020 at 8:47 PM | Reply

      Don Dada Interesting how you think you were talking to a white man, when in fact you are talking to an African American.

      Oh, I know the full racist history of the Democrat Party. I know exactly why LBJ signed Civil Rights…and it had nothing to do with a burgeoning desire for racial equality. I can recite to you his quotes against our race from memory. I can recite to you Hillary Clinton’s quotes against our race. And I can definitely recite to you Joe Biden’s many quotes against our race from memory.

      But you know what? The Republican Party is no longer the party of Bush I spent my early childhood under. Donald Trump invigorates the hateful racists of this country in a way that not even Richard M. Nixon did with his overwhelmingly successful “Southern Strategy” in 1972.

      Donald Trump calls people who march in defense of the Confederate Flag of treason and slavery “very fine people.” These people also marching next to Neo-Nazis and militant white supremacists, which he himself admitted.

      Donald Trump almost always has a Confederate Flag being waved at one of his rallies. Since when did this become common place?

      Donald Trump has viciously hounded and exorcised every last racial progressive policy of the Obama administration. It started with affirmative action, and now racial sensitivity training in government workplaces is being tossed out the window because they are “sick ideas.”

      Oh and by the way, Trump actively cut the 2020 Census short – opposed to what courts had ruled – for a reason. As someone who worked for the 2020 Census, I can tell you that states like PA are in danger of losing yet another Representative in the House…which is good for Trump. The less Democrat seats, the better.

      Trump cannot denounce white supremacy in the moment. He must always do so after the fact. When confronted on the debate stage, he attempted every evasion before settling with telling Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.” Statements not even sycophants like Don Jr. and Hannity could defend.

      The next day, Trump insisted he had done very well in a debate that everyone else in the U.S. – including Joe Biden – thought was an embarrassment and a disgrace to the nation’s democracy.

      Tim Scott said that Trump should clarify…and it took Trump some time to “clarify,” didn’t it? And his first “clarification” was on a phone call with Hannity. Couldn’t do it on national TV. Couldn’t even have Kaleigh McEnany do it for him in her press conference right after the debate.

      Joe Biden is prejudiced against our race, let no one tell you otherwise. But he doesn’t endorse, embolden, and enflame white supremacist groups that had been on the death bed of irrelevancy back in 2016. He doesn’t callously look at the death toll of this nation from CV and say “It is what it is.” He doesn’t go on public tirades against anyone who dares disagree with him. He didn’t last a *day* of his *OWN* “National Character Week” before calling Dr. Fauci an idiot and wishing he could fire him.

      The Democrat Party runs race relations just as LBJ told them to all those decades ago. One baby step at a time to keep those looking for racial progression hooked like a drug.

      But I’ll take a baby step forward over a massive leap backwards.

  14. Dnalor Mlohdil | October 20, 2020 at 11:03 AM | Reply

    VOTE NOW!!

  15. So… what they are saying is… Republicans win by having fewer people’s votes counted? Truly disgusting.

  16. Don’t listen to the polls. Get out and vote!!!!!

  17. Brian Harechmak | October 20, 2020 at 11:36 AM | Reply

    I vote straight blue 2020 for Biden an Harris

  18. Just keep voting they are doing their thing and we going to do our thing vote vote vote people please get out there

  19. Cooking of Survival | October 20, 2020 at 11:59 AM | Reply

    Hi everyone
    I find it sad that the right to have legally cast ballots COUNTED needed to be taken to court.

    • ☎️ Whole Biden family corruption. Joe and brother and wife and son. Iraq. China. Russia. Ukraine. Rudy Giuliano summarizes what was found in Hunter Biden laptop. When a reporter asked joe biden about this, he didn’t denounce it. Not the same way Trump denounced the tax leak and white supremacists.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZasrHQeKiY&feature=youtu.be

    • @Blue Dog
      🖥 John Ratcliffe, Director of National intelligence announced that Hunter Biden laptop email is not Russian disinformation.

      Foxnews.com/politics/ratcliffe-hunter-biden-laptop-emails-not-russian-disinformation-campaign

    • Breaking News AP: Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and Federal Bureau of Investigation ( FBI) have confirmed today that Hunter Biden’s Laptop is his and not part of a Russian Intelligence Disinformation operation. Biden Campaign has not deny the authenticity of the Hunter Biden Emails. FBI has confirmed they are in possession of Hunter Biden’s Laptop. *****************

    • Valdene Allison | October 20, 2020 at 8:02 PM | Reply

      Welcome to trumps America

    • @Winston Shore *Biden Campaign has not deny the authenticity* Cute how a grammar error is in an AP story. Nice try.

  20. 🇺🇸 *Democrat voters : absentee ballots for an absentee candidate.* 🇺🇸

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