Will The U.S. Ever Hit Covid Herd Immunity? Do We Have To? | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

Infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm joins MSNBC's Brian Williams to discuss the challenges health officials still face reaching herd immunity in the U.S. and breaks down what it would mean if that milestone is never truly achieved.
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39 comments

  1. American Spirit: “There’s nothing we can’t do!”
    Herd Immunity: “Oh, hello there.”
    America: “We quit.”

    1. Herd immunity is a false science.
      With all the variants,
      Science knows there isn’t going to be any herd immunity, just like with colds and flu.

      And BACKWARDS to protect the vaccinated!!!

    2. There is a difference between what America is capable of, and what Republicans are capable of. If Nixon had been in the White House, we’d still be waiting for a man on the moon.

    3. @s Herd immunity is an concept, not a science, and that concept has always proven true. When there are insufficient naive individuals, so an infectious disease cannot spread, that disease is halted. It has worked with countless diseases, and there is nothing that indicates it is a false concept.

  2. We need tort reform to ensure costs of externalities are properly borne by the person engaging in damaging behavior. When it costs a lot of money to be dumb, some people might grow new brain cells. You ought to be free to do dumb things provided you pay for them in full. Right now, if I get sick because of an unvaccinated person, I can’t sue him because he doesn’t owe me a direct duty and it’s hard to prove causation. If reform doesn’t happen, then to be completely honest, it’s hard for me to be more than slightly annoyed if the government just decided to downright assault your arm with the vaccine.

    1. We’d tie up the courts, trying to sue our way out of this. Vaccination should just be mandated, as smallpox vaccination was in the past. It’s totally constitutional, and these jerks don’t have the right to endanger everyone else with their stupidity. Claiming you have the right to go unvaccinated, is like claiming you have the right to drive blindfolded, on the wrong side of the freeway. You don’t! That was already decided in 1905.

  3. Its really sad that we have to depend on the dumbest portion of the population to end this pandemic. smdh

    1. @cat videos Pass legislation, making it a crime to be unvaccinated. Problem solved.

    2. @cat videos Where did i say eradicate and where did i say to pass legislation? Ill wait.

    3. @Deborah Freedman yes, just violate the Nuremberg code. Might as well fire up the gas chambers while you’re at it.

    4. @cat videos Well technically you can. China has more or less eradicated the virus through legislation. At least if you looking at the official numbers.

    5. @Dribrom Sunrock so you believe the CCP and you want to be more like them? I dunno bout that.

  4. If there’s a dozen worse variants at this point there could easily be a half dozen more by fall.

    1. Pharmaceutical companies are already talking about booster shots in 6 months to a year.

      Medical/Science is not expecting COVID to disappear, nor did they ever.

    2. Variants always tend toward lower lethality. So even if you’re correct, it’s not a concern.

    3. @cat videos Not always, usually, and not in this case. With this virus, several of the more infectious variants are also more lethal.

    4. That’s why vaccination should be mandated, to reduce the number of human incubators, generating more dangerous variants.

    5. @Deborah Freedman you are the dangerous variant. Start using your own brain before they ban that too.

  5. Don’t blame antivaxxers for the fact that the scientists can’t keep up with the changing variants. Be honest.

  6. Heavenly father I pray that you keep the person reading this alive, safe, healthy and financially blessed. Amen.

  7. Please post the full interview. You’re doing everyone a disservice by chopping up these interviews.

  8. I’m vaccinated. I don’t care if you said America got brainwashed…. you saw Berestein bears. lol…Google it Dufus. It’s berenstain bears.

  9. Aren’t anti vaxxers also likely to be some of the same people who refused to wear masks and helped make the battle against COVID more difficult for all of us?

  10. If people are vaccinated, why punish us… ugh. Just open up already. Let people make their own choices. If they wanna take a risk, so be it.

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